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What is Art?
Topic Started: Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:28 pm (175 Views)
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Been trying to define for someone what art is. This guy is a pragmatist who is increasingly prone to seeing the world in 1s & 0s, particularly the kind that have a $ before them

A couple dictionary definitions I've come across that just don't seem to get it completely, in my opinion
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The quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance
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Something that is created with imagination and skill and that is beautiful or that expresses important ideas or feelings
Now Tolstoy seems much more on target in his essay What is Art
Leo Tolstoy
 
Art is not, as the metaphysicians say, the manifestation of some mysterious idea of beauty or God; it is not, as the aesthetical physiologists say, a game in which man lets off his excess of stored-up energy; it is not the expression of man's emotions by external signs; it is not the production of pleasing objects; and, above all, it is not pleasure; but it is a means of union among men, joining them together in the same feelings, and indispensable for the life and progress toward well-being of individuals and of humanity.
I sort of see it that way too. (Particularly the bolded section) In fact, all the things he points to it not being, it could be if the artist needed it to be. It's only that art doesn't need to be those things exclusively to be considered art. As such, my base definition goes something like this.
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Art: The product of the act of creating something from within a person's imagination, which, when externalized by some means, evokes feelings of an emotional nature in others, that in some way might connect the creator with the witnesses and/or the witnesses to one another.
What do you think of my definition? How would you put it? What's your thoughts?
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Well, there are those who would argue that graffiti is a form of artistic expression. Now I've seen some that was stunningly good, and others that I'd like to take a blowtorch to, though they both had some artistic merit. I suppose it's a matter of personal preference - what some would call art, others would call graffiti !!

Just to make the point, graffiti artist 'Banksy' recently had some of his work accepted for the National Gallery in London, and put on public display !!
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I think it's an imaginative expression, intended to evoke an emotional reaction.
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A creative idea that can cause a reaction. And hopefully not to harm people in the process.
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something that is made just for the beauty and joy of making it.
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Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:39 am
something that is made just for the beauty and joy of making it.
Some art is not meant to be beautiful. Some is not meant to make anyone feel joy. They are just singular ways to make art imho. In that sense, art is to conjure something which evokes an emotional reaction that unifies artist & witness, & witnesses with one another

When we hear the Moonlight Sonata. We are not joyous, but we are all given to a unity in what we're feeling
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Isaid beuty and joy of making it. Not that it would be beautiful or joyful whenit was done
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If you're interested in art, the 2013 Reith Lectures by the BBC are delivered by the contemporary artist Grayson Perry. He talks about the nature of art, where it might go in the future etc. He's a pretty good speaker. Lecture 2 is probably most relevant:



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Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:35 pm
Isaid beuty and joy of making it. Not that it would be beautiful or joyful whenit was done
Not to be argumentative, but that's still debatable though. Some artists are not driven by joy or beauty when creating art. Some are of course, but it's not the defining characteristic
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