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Duck Dynasty
Topic Started: Sun Apr 7, 2013 8:44 pm (1,106 Views)
slutpuppy
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wissa you are probably right
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trekslut=lus stalker rest in peace mr meowgi 12/28/10
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thank you denny, i love it!!! :*
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I dont really like what he said either... I know what it says in the Bible.. but it also says he who is without sin can throw the first stone.

And when I read his comments.. he says he is against those things.. but that he doesn't wish harm on anyone.

None of us are perfect.. Ive said and done things I know are wrong, and a few of them if judged by the masses.. would put me in a bad place.

There are tons of people on TV who have physically done worse things that him speaking his mind. So I will watch..
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www.duckcommander.com
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trekslut=lus stalker rest in peace mr meowgi 12/28/10
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thank you denny, i love it!!! :*
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I'm far more offended by what he said about blacks before the civil rights. Yet no one seems outraged about that just a week after they were posting about Mandela's death.
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Alisium
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You realize that Mandela was a pretty bad guy, right? There's been a tragic revision of actual history in the media.

Look up:

Umkhonto we Sizwe

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Necklacing

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wissaboo
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that wasn't my actual point
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Just because I'm lazy...

Do you have the quote and source?
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http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/duck-dynasty-phil-robertsons-quotes-gq-interview/story?id=21278832

it's right after his insights about Nazis
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"I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I'm with the blacks, because we're white trash. We're going across the field. ... They're singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, 'I tell you what: These doggone white people' -- not a word! ... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues."


This is anecdotal so to him it's true, but it's nothing to do with civil rights. Rather, it's more of an indictment on government hand-outs and how that can have a detrimental effect.
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I just saw this on television.

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If Size Doesn't matter why don't they usually have three inch dildos???
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Not that I agree with what he said....it is a matter of the time he was born into. I don't think he is prejudiced about anyone...I believe he would give a Martian a place to stay. I just think it's just his up bringing and age showing here
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He was born in the same year as GW Bush
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Alisium
Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:27 am
You realize that Mandela was a pretty bad guy, right? There's been a tragic revision of actual history in the media.

Look up:

Umkhonto we Sizwe

and

Necklacing

That's a daft thing to say. The more extreme acts of the militant ANC were no worse than those of any army in conflict, and pretty much all of them were carried out after Mandela was locked up anyway.

The peaceful political reforms in SA were nothing short of miraculous, and probably prevented a civil war as bloody as the one currently under way in Syria. I defy you to name a less bad world leader, living or dead.
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Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:50 pm
Alisium
Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:27 am
You realize that Mandela was a pretty bad guy, right? There's been a tragic revision of actual history in the media.

Look up:

Umkhonto we Sizwe

and

Necklacing

That's a daft thing to say. The more extreme acts of the militant ANC were no worse than those of any army in conflict, and pretty much all of them were carried out after Mandela was locked up anyway.

The peaceful political reforms in SA were nothing short of miraculous, and probably prevented a civil war as bloody as the one currently under way in Syria. I defy you to name a less bad world leader, living or dead.
Except that he did start the militant wing. In the two years that he presided over the MK terroist group, there certainly was kidnaps, torture and at least some attacks that resulted in civilian deaths. One would think that if his last name were O'Hare, he'd receive less latitude.

The ANC is also currently a just shy of a terrorist group more akin to the KKK gone legit. Read up about the murders of Dutch farmers since his freedom and subsequent tenure as the SA President.

Also, let's not forget who his wife is. That was his association by choice.
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Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:51 pm
stigmata
Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:50 pm
Alisium
Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:27 am
You realize that Mandela was a pretty bad guy, right? There's been a tragic revision of actual history in the media.

Look up:

Umkhonto we Sizwe

and

Necklacing

That's a daft thing to say. The more extreme acts of the militant ANC were no worse than those of any army in conflict, and pretty much all of them were carried out after Mandela was locked up anyway.

The peaceful political reforms in SA were nothing short of miraculous, and probably prevented a civil war as bloody as the one currently under way in Syria. I defy you to name a less bad world leader, living or dead.
Except that he did start the militant wing. In the two years that he presided over the MK terroist group, there certainly was kidnaps, torture and at least some attacks that resulted in civilian deaths. One would think that if his last name were O'Hare, he'd receive less latitude.

The ANC is also currently a just shy of a terrorist group more akin to the KKK gone legit. Read up about the murders of Dutch farmers since his freedom and subsequent tenure as the SA President.

Also, let's not forget who his wife is. That was his association by choice.
I'm astonished that you seem to think he got an easier ride because he was black. You can't apply American notions of 'political correctness' to Apartheid or even post-Apartheid South Africa.

The ANC used militant tactics when the people they represented had no rights, but if that means Mandela is a terrorist and a bad egg then so were George Washington, Simon Bolivar etc. In fact, while loyalists were driven from the country under Washington's government, Mandela made reconciliation a cornerstone of his leadership. The old saying applies: if you really want to test someone's character, give them power.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say about Afrikaaner farmers. Are you saying Mandela ordered them killed? Is he responsible for the fact that SA has been and continues to be a hotbed of violent crime? None of the white South Africans I know see it like that.

And his wife was Graça Machel, who seems relatively blameless. He divorced his more dogmatic previous wife pretty quickly when he was out of prison.

Do you dislike him because he was a leftist? He was never able to actually enact any of his socialist ideals because he needed investment from the US and Europe. Maybe then he is to blame for the violent crime rate, after a fashion. Such crimes are fomented by serious wealth inequality, which he was unable to address.
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Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:30 pm
I dont really like what he said either... I know what it says in the Bible.. but it also says he who is without sin can throw the first stone.

The bible, as you and I have read it, is a translation of its original text. And its probably been translated quite a few times in-between. What we are reading is not 100% what was written as things sometimes get lost in translation. Hence why it is chock full of contradictions.

If not then we are to believe that in additional to homosexuality other sins, abominations, unclean and unnatural things are:

* abstinence of meat on Friday except fish, guess if you have a seafood allergy your going vegetarian
* speaking of seafood if it does not have fins and scales its a no no, hopefully you don't like shrimp, lobster, oysters and the such
* pigs are unclean, bye bye bacon and ham and any potbellied pigs you have apparently are not approved as pets
* tattoos, got em? Yeah, your going to hell.
* rounding the corners of your hair or beard, so much for the clean cut look
* don't gossip, well im a gonner I guess
* marriage after divorce, guess if your going to leave him and want some more dick down the road divorce doesn't cut it, death does though, aka the burning bed
* working on the Sabbath, ill let you tell the private sector about this one
* women speaking at church, you cant but you can ask your husband questions once you get home, sorry Gloria Steinum you cant speak but you can make me a pie
* not being a virgin when you get married, this seems to apply more to women as they get stoned to death if they have been deflowered prior to getting married, once again im a gonner good thing I can never be married off to a man in their eyes
* speaking of women, your all unclean, at least during your period, I know you get no say in it weather you get one or not but the bible says your unclean while its happening...

BTW, im not yelling at you Violet :hug4:

The point being is you are to take the bible literally then it seems it would be really hard to tote the line. That's one thing I don't get about religious fanatics. I have a friend who is devout Muslim. He doesn't break from his fast during Ramadan. He goes often to the mosque to pray. But he fucks around on his wife. I sometimes want to ask him if he just chooses what portions of his religion he wants to follow.

So what about this guy. The bible does not approve of idolatry. Well, he is an idol to many and he knows this. Also, hunting for sport. Im not 100 % sure but I don't think that is a commandment in the bible. Remind me again what it is this guy does?

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stigmata
Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:36 pm
He was born in the same year as GW Bush
:confused: and your point being?
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stigmata
Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:50 pm
I defy you to name a less bad world leader, living or dead.
:lus: its a sad world we live in when someone is being defended for being "less bad".
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Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:51 pm
Except that he did start the militant wing. In the two years that he presided over the MK terroist group, there certainly was kidnaps, torture and at least some attacks that resulted in civilian deaths.
Perhaps Obama should have brought his good friends William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn instead of Bush. Im sure they would have like to shake hands with Raul Castro as well.
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wissaboo
Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:27 pm
I'm far more offended by what he said about blacks before the civil rights. Yet no one seems outraged about that just a week after they were posting about Mandela's death.
Im confused as well. Usually the race card trumps the gay card any day :confused:
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