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Tweet Topic Started: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:23 am (778 Views)
spocklet	Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:54 pm Post #41
Live long and prosper.....!! Posts: 24,406 Group: VOY Nirvana Member #5,885 Joined: May 31, 2009	joyofvgr Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:44 pm AWOLangel Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:41 pm joyofvgr Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:34 pm Right. But what pushed him over the edge to do something like this? i heard that he had some kind of confrontation with several teachers at the school not long before he did what he did. I heard that as well. I wonder if he applied for a job and was turned down or something. If so, that would make him mad at the school. But why kill his mom? Maybe she gave him a bad reference ?? As his mom it's a good bet she knew his mental state, and didn't like the idea of his being around young kids ??
	R.I.P. Gummy, we'll miss you bro


slutpuppy	Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:57 pm Post #42
Posts: 8,024 Group: Cardassian 5000 post angel Member #5,886 Joined: June 3, 2009	wissaboo Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:51 pm it's a waste of time trying to understand what motivates the mentally ill. Their thought processes aren't normal. If they made sense they wouldn't be mentally ill. QFT!!!
	trekslut=lus stalker rest in peace mr meowgi 12/28/10 thank you denny, i love it!!! :*


AWOLangel	Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:19 pm Post #43
Posts: 36,542 Group: DS9 Nirvana Member #25 Joined: January 17, 2006	joyofvgr Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:44 pm AWOLangel Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:41 pm joyofvgr Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:34 pm Right. But what pushed him over the edge to do something like this? i heard that he had some kind of confrontation with several teachers at the school not long before he did what he did. I heard that as well. I wonder if he applied for a job and was turned down or something. If so, that would make him mad at the school. But why kill his mom? his parents were divorced in 2009 & he supposedly hadn't seen his dad or older brother since 2010, maybe he blamed her? but like wissa said;their thought processes aren't normal.
	All that I am, or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother.--Abraham Lincoln


VioletCloud	Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:03 pm Post #44
Water Tribe! Posts: 18,370 Group: Admin Member #1,331 Joined: October 14, 2007	the news loves to saturate us with strange things. Usually I get more worried about what they dont saturate us with...
	All my posts are done from my tablet. I apologize for all strange errors in my posts... as swype hates me.


joyofvgr	Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:49 pm Post #45
Hand Drawn by CaptDennyCrane Posts: 641 Group: Capt. Archer's Wench Member #5,845 Joined: February 17, 2009	slutpuppy Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:57 pm wissaboo Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:51 pm it's a waste of time trying to understand what motivates the mentally ill. Their thought processes aren't normal. If they made sense they wouldn't be mentally ill. QFT!!! Although this guy was mentally ill, he was intelligent. His reaction to what set him off was not normal do to his mental illness, but something must have triggered it. Obviously he was exposed to weapons. Did he also play a lot of violent video games? I do think some sense will be made out of this, once they have all the facts and more details regarding his background. Once they figure this out, they may be able to predict and prevent similar behavior in the future.



Mojochi	Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:40 pm Post #46
........................... Posts: 13,333 Group: Movie Era 10000 post spammer Member #1,478 Joined: November 14, 2007	joyofvgr Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:49 pm Did he also play a lot of violent video games? I put very little stock in the belief that video games have a direct correlation to a person's behavior in such regards Look at it like this. The only games I like are racing games, the crazier the better. Right now, I spend maybe a couple hours a day tearing ass through downtown L.A. in Midnight Club for PS3 (& it is an exact duplicate of L.A. from Santa Monica Pier to the Hollywood Hills) I have trashed that whole city from top to bottom, & yet, never once have I ever gotten a real speeding ticket Because I'm sane. I'd need some serious proof that TV, movies, music & video games are in any way causal, to buy that theory However, playing video games all the time in lieu of living life or otherwise using these things as a permanent escape, is probably are sign that there are some deeper rooted issues going on Edit: Ps. In fact, I find that playing intense urban racing games actually makes me much calmer & more relaxed in real traffic than I use to be. They should work on using it as a treatment for road rage. Help those people to get their aggression out in a harmless way



VioletCloud	Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:44 pm Post #47
Water Tribe! Posts: 18,370 Group: Admin Member #1,331 Joined: October 14, 2007	I love video games... and play some pretty violent ones... and they are so gross. I do believe that it is de-sensitizing people to certain things... there has always been violence and a love of watching it (gladiators anyone) but never so up close and personal.. so graphic and where you get to be so involved who is to say how that can effect a mentally unstable person. shit gives me nightmares and im sane



Mojochi	Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:53 pm Post #48
........................... Posts: 13,333 Group: Movie Era 10000 post spammer Member #1,478 Joined: November 14, 2007	VioletCloud Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:44 pm who is to say how that can effect a mentally unstable person. Isn't that the point? Who is to say how anything can effect a mentally unstable person? Some people can become homicidal after watching David Letterman. Is it Dave's fault? Of course not, but it's just so easy to look at a thing that has violence in it & say it has a causal effect, when it's relationship could be nothing of the sort Over all, my point is this. If all violent media were gone tomorrow, & all guns were destroyed, we would be absolutely nowhere nearer to diminishing violent tendencies in a portion of the population & therefore assigning blame to those things is not productive



VioletCloud	Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:57 pm Post #49
Water Tribe! Posts: 18,370 Group: Admin Member #1,331 Joined: October 14, 2007	oh Im with you on that subject I was just saying... I see her point



spocklet	Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:16 am Post #50
Live long and prosper.....!! Posts: 24,406 Group: VOY Nirvana Member #5,885 Joined: May 31, 2009	Having played violent online games, along with a coupla million other players, neither I nor anybody I've met in-game want to start hacking and slashing for real (forget guns, use a sword !! ) I can appreciate what has been said about mentally-unstable people, but it's unfair to put the blame on gamers. Agree with Mojo, that even after a really violent game most players are more relaxed, not hyped-up and wanting to kill for real !! You could just as easily say any reason is to blame - broken home, not getting enough love or attention, their teddy bear falling in love with Barbie, whatever !!
	R.I.P. Gummy, we'll miss you bro


joyofvgr	Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:57 am Post #51
Hand Drawn by CaptDennyCrane Posts: 641 Group: Capt. Archer's Wench Member #5,845 Joined: February 17, 2009	Mojochi Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:40 pm joyofvgr Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:49 pm Did he also play a lot of violent video games? I put very little stock in the belief that video games have a direct correlation to a person's behavior in such regards Look at it like this. The only games I like are racing games, the crazier the better. Right now, I spend maybe a couple hours a day tearing ass through downtown L.A. in Midnight Club for PS3 (& it is an exact duplicate of L.A. from Santa Monica Pier to the Hollywood Hills) I have trashed that whole city from top to bottom, & yet, never once have I ever gotten a real speeding ticket Because I'm sane. I'd need some serious proof that TV, movies, music & video games are in any way causal, to buy that theory However, playing video games all the time in lieu of living life or otherwise using these things as a permanent escape, is probably are sign that there are some deeper rooted issues going on Edit: Ps. In fact, I find that playing intense urban racing games actually makes me much calmer & more relaxed in real traffic than I use to be. They should work on using it as a treatment for road rage. Help those people to get their aggression out in a harmless way I'm with you on that Mojochi. My kids watch TV and play video games to their hearts content. As a result, they actually get bored with such things and find something else to go do on their own. I've never had to limit that stuff. I don't believe that tv or games will make someone violent either. I'm a big TV watcher and I love video games. I just don't have the time. However, when someone is mentally ill and possibly obsessed with violence, playing a lot of violent video games could be a cause for concern or a red flag. On the flip side, it could also be therapeutic as they could act out their anger and frustration in a safe setting using those games. So if he never played them, maybe he should have. Honestly, I think it's important to know what kind of behavior this guy was exhibiting that could be possible warning signs for the next person who might snap. I would like to know because there are some people who are not quite right around here. I would never shun those people, but it's always good to keep a discreet watchful eye and know the warning signs, if any. They said he had an altercation at school. Maybe the people he had the altercation with were rude to him, not realizing that it could be a delicate situation. How they might have treated him, had they only realized what kind of person they were dealing with, could have made a big difference.



VioletCloud	Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:16 pm Post #52
Water Tribe! Posts: 18,370 Group: Admin Member #1,331 Joined: October 14, 2007	spocklet Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:16 am Having played violent online games, along with a coupla million other players, neither I nor anybody I've met in-game want to start hacking and slashing for real (forget guns, use a sword !! ) I can appreciate what has been said about mentally-unstable people, but it's unfair to put the blame on gamers. Agree with Mojo, that even after a really violent game most players are more relaxed, not hyped-up and wanting to kill for real !! You could just as easily say any reason is to blame - broken home, not getting enough love or attention, their teddy bear falling in love with Barbie, whatever !! no one blamed it on video games. joy just asked a question and I pointed out that they tend to de-sensitize people. Quote: You could just as easily say any reason is to blame thats true... even you have done that but its clear here that "blame" goes to mental illness.



Mojochi	Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:08 am Post #53
........................... Posts: 13,333 Group: Movie Era 10000 post spammer Member #1,478 Joined: November 14, 2007	Some 62 year old ex-con in Rochester New York set his house on fire yesterday, and opened fire on the responding firefighters. injured 2 & an off duty cop, & killed 2. Motherfucker! Guy killed his own grandmother back in the 80s... With a HAMMER! This has been a shitty couple weeks for lunatic gunmen. Mall punk, grade school creep, & now a firefighter assassin At this point, I'm thinking the holidays are more to blame than gun legislation. WTF is it about this time of year? Suicides & murders skyrocket



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