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Stargate SG1; I will be watching all of this now.
Topic Started: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:32 am (653 Views)
stigmata
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I think it was the characterisation. On paper it sounds like my ideal SF show, with intelligent stories, real science and astronomy used well, imaginative aliens and planets (there's no reason they couldn't have done that more in SG1, actually), and some decent actors. But the characters were a bit bland so I had no emotional investment. The generic 'hero' guy, the mopey politician's daughter, the dull blonde medic, the annoying tough guy and the highly unsympathetic commander. The only characters I liked were Rush and the Chinese woman, and I got the feeling they weren't the ones I was supposed to be rooting for. I quite liked some of the secondary scientist characters too, but the focus wasn't really on them.

I know some people really hated the show and I definitely wasn't one of them, but it often felt a bit empty to me. It deserved a bit longer on the air than it got. I liked it a lot more than Atlantis for example, and that seemed to go on forever.
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My friend has every season on DVD, so he has leant me the first season. belive it or not, I've never seen an episode of this show. Loved the movie though.
What?!?!?!?!
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Now I found the characterizations where better well done, and felt more "real" to me than in most other series - these people had "real life", life and death problems to deal with in the scenarios they faced them with "real life" solutions, along with out of this world solutions they didnt even realize, but they at least made sense within the spirit of the show....

I mean that whole problem with the first time the ship was locked on a collision course with a sun .... How cool was that solution and idea in the show?

At first I wasnt all that interested in the gung ho marine guy Greer, but he grew on you after me while. Chloe was your typical silver spoon fed girl, who had to learn to adapt, and did so. Scott was rather bland, but filled in as your standard average good guy. Col. Young was just a poor guy, wishing he had a different command, stuck trying to make the best of a bad situation surrounded with all the wrong people, but still had make the best command decisions he could with what he had to work with. The medic had angst she had to get over and her own real world problems as well.

All in all I think they did ok with what they had to work with and am glad that they made it as cerebral as they did - there is so little programming like that
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Teal'c's garb in the episode 1969 = :lol: :lol: and deserves a :thumbsup:
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Teal'c is the man
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CaptDennyCrane
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He is indeed very much .... "the man"
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Sherlock... I mean... KHANNNNNNN

I love 1969 - Daniel teaches Teal'C to drive in that one :lol:

I love that more of you are getting into Stargate, it's such a great show & it makes me happy that even though at the moment there's no new Gate, it's still being watched & appreciated. :)


Wissa could you move this to Norad please, I think it belongs in there more than here. :)
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SG-1 is enjoyable, but it is one of those two drink minimum shows. You really have to disengage quite a bit to keep yourself from questioning it. I've said this on other boards, but every time Teal'c is captured, take a drink. Don't ask yourself why an uninhabited planet has a gate surrounded by a manicured lawn. When Carter mentions there is no zoo in Colorado Springs, don't go to the Cheyenne Mountain Zoo website...it isn't as if you can practically throw a rock from the zoo to Norad.
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CaptDennyCrane
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There will always be some sort of suspension of disbelief to one degree or another involved with nearly all science fiction story-telling trying to carry itself on the long-term. and its usually the little things like a trimmed lawn around an abandoned stargate that will be left to wind, even though it would be one of the first clues to a scientific mind or military reconnaissance passing through that gate, that there is at least some kind of civilization nearby, BUT....as to why they'd cut that grass is anybody's guess.

One of the problems I had with the gate system, is that constellation shapes as we know them from Earth, would be entirely different from the other gate's vantage point, so how they figure out how to dial back using a gate with a different set of symbols would take lots of time and night sky observation, let alone knowing what that particular gate's point of origin symbol is.

Loopholes like that bother me.

And technically the gate-bridge from the Atlantis series, made up of 34 gates taken from various abandoned planets, to bridge the void between the Milky Way and teh Pegasus galaxies, without constellations, should NEVER have worked
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Every planet looking the same kind of bugged me- they shot Galactica in BC as well and they were able to make every planet look different. That's another thing Universe did very well.
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I was discussing the grass around the gates issue with a friend once and came up with a thin explanation. It is nonsense, but I had been drinking, so here goes. The energy release from gate activation releases a form of radiation that stunts the growth of organic material in a specified radius around the gate.

The thing I have a hard time wrapping my head around is that no matter where or when a group of humans was taken from Earth to populate another world by the snake-heads, they all speak modern English. There may be writings in Eqyptian, a form of Latin or even Norse runes, but they all speak English.

I guess that is geeks for ya. We may see huge gaping holes in the plot or a certain premise of the story, but we will keep tuning in.
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To be fair you just described every science fiction show ever
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stigmata
 
To be fair you just described every science fiction show ever
QFT
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Dralek
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At least Trek had the built in UT crutch to make it easier to swallow. I wish Stargate had at least tried to plug some of the holes in its own story. It is also hard to run on adrenaline for ten seasons. The Earth is about to be destroyed is there go-to story, as I think O'Neill pointed out in the episode when Daniel was a pryor. He mentioned it was getting old.
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CaptDennyCrane
Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:27 am
And technically the gate-bridge from the Atlantis series, made up of 34 gates taken from various abandoned planets, to bridge the void between the Milky Way and teh Pegasus galaxies, without constellations, should NEVER have worked
The gates weren't moved from there original locations, their addresses were written into McKay's Macro & then when they dialed Midway, each gate dialled one after another & so creating a continuious wormhole. The same with the gates between Midway & the SGC. :)
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Lus
Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:49 pm
CaptDennyCrane
Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:27 am
And technically the gate-bridge from the Atlantis series, made up of 34 gates taken from various abandoned planets, to bridge the void between the Milky Way and teh Pegasus galaxies, without constellations, should NEVER have worked
The gates weren't moved from there original locations, their addresses were written into McKay's Macro & then when they dialed Midway, each gate dialled one after another & so creating a continuious wormhole. The same with the gates between Midway & the SGC. :)
Sorry Lus, that's not what they said in the episode....they said the gates were taken and placed in the void between the two galaxies....The Pegasus side used ones that were orbiting space gates, while the Milky Way side was comprised of gates that led to useless, strategically-abandoned worlds.
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Sherlock... I mean... KHANNNNNNN

You know you're right & don't know where I got that thought from, the episode explaining it all is one I've watched & re-watched numberous times.

Can't believe I had a blonde moment regarding Stargate. That's just not right. :lus:
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So, I have finished all of SG-1 and the two associated films. All in all it was pretty good stuff. I felt season 10 fizzled out a bit, but the addition of Black and Browder from season 9 on had already made up for it with all their extra funny.

Poor Thor. :(
Something good will go here soon.
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Cornishmonkey
Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:31 am
So, I have finished all of SG-1 and the two associated films. All in all it was pretty good stuff. I felt season 10 fizzled out a bit, but the addition of Black and Browder from season 9 on had already made up for it with all their extra funny.

Poor Thor. :(
I'm glad you liked it. I liked the addition of Black & Browder as well - I liked them Farscape & love that Blacks first appearence outfit in Season 9 looks like the one she wore in Farscape :lol:

I cry nearly everytime I watch "Unending", I love the Asgard especially Thor.

You should really watch Atlantis now, it started two episodes into Season 8 of SG-1 & runs along side SG-1, right through to the second film & then carries on for another season.

:)
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Lus
Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:10 am
Cornishmonkey
Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:31 am
So, I have finished all of SG-1 and the two associated films. All in all it was pretty good stuff. I felt season 10 fizzled out a bit, but the addition of Black and Browder from season 9 on had already made up for it with all their extra funny.

Poor Thor. :(
I'm glad you liked it. I liked the addition of Black & Browder as well - I liked them Farscape & love that Blacks first appearence outfit in Season 9 looks like the one she wore in Farscape :lol:

I cry nearly everytime I watch "Unending", I love the Asgard especially Thor.

You should really watch Atlantis now, it started two episodes into Season 8 of SG-1 & runs along side SG-1, right through to the second film & then carries on for another season.

:)
I will watch it at some point. Atlantis is about £80 for all five seasons at the mo. I paid less than that for the complete SG-1.

I am thinking of watching Farscape next 'cause I never watched that either. :blink:
Something good will go here soon.
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