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The Walking Dead; Zombie show on AMC.
Topic Started: Thu Nov 4, 2010 8:33 pm (12,573 Views)
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I was thinking for the sequel it might be interesting to see the end result of the stuff they are doing with the kids right now. So a sequel set, say, 75 years in the future. Are there still hordes of zombies? are there more humans? have they managed to have towns and industry?
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I would hope that hordes/herds would be fire purged by then, and that the only reanimation left to deal with is day to day death of the living, assuming no cure could be found for that. By all accounts, the vast majority of the global population had turned within the first year. Depending on the numbers of the living, there would have to be some organized front which rises up to regain the Earth, and eliminate the vast zombie population. Hell, the only reason we assume it couldn't be done in the first place was because the plague was spreading & destroying civilization. Once civilization has fallen to it, all that's left to do is organize who's left & wipe the undead scourge from the planet. Humans are pretty good at destroying things en masse

Either that, or humanity is doomd to extinction
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Last week's episode did raise a new concern I hadn't considered. Resuscitation of the recently deceased. 1. It's incredibly dangerous. Mouth to mouth is just not an option anymore. 2. We know almost nothing about the spread of the disease post-mortem, & they know even less. I seem to remember that brain death is a requirement for it to begin, & resuscitation is not possible after brain death, but without brain monitoring equipment, that's impossible to determine. 3. People might just give up on it all together, philosophically. A dead person is now the enemy. The strong inclination would be to just eliminate it immediately, rather than trying to kick start them back to life
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When the episode started I was worried we wouldn't get to find out what happened to Martinez & Shumpert :lol:

Then at the end, I returned to my thinking that the world of the living is a really small one now, which makes me almost certain that Carol is probably going to run into this new scenario, simply because she's out there

Did Carol ever end up seeing the Governor in person?
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I dont think so
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yeah... this is bad :lus:
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Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:55 pm
I would hope that hordes/herds would be fire purged by then, and that the only reanimation left to deal with is day to day death of the living, assuming no cure could be found for that. By all accounts, the vast majority of the global population had turned within the first year. Depending on the numbers of the living, there would have to be some organized front which rises up to regain the Earth, and eliminate the vast zombie population. Hell, the only reason we assume it couldn't be done in the first place was because the plague was spreading & destroying civilization. Once civilization has fallen to it, all that's left to do is organize who's left & wipe the undead scourge from the planet. Humans are pretty good at destroying things en masse

Either that, or humanity is doomd to extinction
the problem with the zombies is just when humanity starts getting established again they can reemerge. Massive hurricane? zombie bodies all over the place. Epidemic that kills a good number of people? bring out your zombies. You want to clear out a neighbouring town? kill enough of them in their sleep that the zombies will kill the rest.
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but whenever humanity manages to eliminate the metropolitan herds that must comprise millions of what use to be citizens, whatever humanity remains will never again have to face that level of epidemic, because the human race may never again be billions of people like it was, at least not for a long time.

The zombie condition will then just be something that those humans must prepare for in ordinary death, (If no cure is found) & also face on a small scale, when out and about

Think about it like this. The zombie apocalypse is only scary because there are so many of US right now. At its core, the biggest metaphor for the zombie apocalypse is fear of overpopulation. Once you eliminate that overpopulation factor, the zombie "Plague" itself is really less to worry about than AIDS. People still have sex even though there is that risk, & that's way riskier than the potential of having some rotting corpse bite you, especially if you're prepared for the possibility.

Humans are crafty. We invent ways to cross oceans, & cross continents. Hell, leave the planet. We would eventually invent or re-employ some method that can eliminate those vast populaces of millions of walkers in a swarm, branching out from metropolitan areas. It may take decades, but you said 3/4 of a century later. That's a lot of time

Personally, once a working government was established, even a small one, perhaps even a fledgling empire, goal number one would be to retake the surface, & frankly, the old world WMDs would be the ticket, like Nepalm
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He called her pumpkin this week. How long before he just mistakenly calls her Penny?

I got to say, I kind of fall in with the naysayers this week. I sort of wish they'd given us something back at the prison this episode. One episode or 11/2 would've been enough to cover this Gov. story. Who really gives a crap about Auntie Tara's new love interest? They could have lost that whole bit. It was an obvious stunt that sucked up time. Nobody even cares about Tara yet. She's one episode old. When she's dead, I'll just remember her as the fist bump girl. Hell, they only matter in that the Gov. cares about them, & even he only cares about them in a disturbed surrogate kind of way. They are not real characters yet

Next week looks to be the big confrontation. That means. It's likely Carol's return will get postponed now, & Daryl's reaction to Carol being gone will get glossed over or usurped by the new problem. Those ARE real characters we're all invested in, & getting on with their story is more important to the viewer

How the Gov. gets his new Merle is of no real consequence. We kind of all knew he would, & I for one never got sold out of the Gov. being a ruthless man, & redeeming himself. I always knew we were just waiting for the timeout to be over & his 2nd wind to get going

The only interesting thing this episode showed us was that there's still plenty of human groups out there, & they are actually wiping each other out, which is an even worse aspect to the end of civilization
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yeah, it was nice in a way to see how other groups are doing, but its too much governor. The last episode was good, but this was just filler for the most part.
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Yup, and with only like 16 episodes a season, I'd prefer we had more meat & less filler. I use to forgive it on LOST, because they had a full 22 or 24 episodes. I can't remember

What's odd, is that Martinez's group, the group they came up on AND the mystery group that sacked them, all live in the vicinity of the prison, & yet... haven't ended up there or are purposely avoiding it. then you factor in how many Woodbury had, & how many strays the prison had acquired before the plague, or ones they just encountered, & that's a LOT of people in that area, for going on 2 years after the outbreak. Maybe over 200

You do the math, that in the area of 2-3 counties they still have a few hundred survivors scattered about, & multiply it by how many counties there are in the continental U.S. There's likely hundreds of thousands of people out there... for now, unless they keep eliminating one another


Survival is an odd thing. It's weird to think of a person as less valuable than the supplies they carry. A person is a resource. A supply is a consumable. I'm afraid I couldn't be a cutthroat. Moral factors aside, people aren't just mouths to feed, they are useful for survival. Hell, even Daryl knows that. Though numbers slow you down a bit, Numbers make strength
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how come none of these groups have the flu?
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They seem pretty isolated....... from the rest of this season's plot :lol:
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Well... Fuck...
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I'm bored with this show. I haven't seen a new episode in a while.
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Where's little ass kicker!!!!!
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Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:30 am
how come none of these groups have the flu?
how come there have been walkers pushing down the fence all season but in tonight's episode none till they started shooting?

why do Carl and Daryl have the same incredibly ugly haircut?????
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Well, the flu epidemic ended with Rick & Carl wasting the group that had been out there, though that's not really a good explanation either, considering they did it with machine guns... which should have brought more
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why do Carl and Daryl have the same incredibly ugly haircut?????
They don't have a haircut. Neither has Rick or Hershel for that matter. Rick's is just less noticeable. His hair is like mine. It just gets curly & moppish, & the only thing he can do is slime it down. Doesn't seem to be happening to Glen to my recollection though. I'll have to review this more thoroughly :mojo:
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I'm bored with this show. I haven't seen a new episode in a while.
Well... You'll want to see the season 4 mid-season finale
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Where's little ass kicker!!!!!
I don't think you want me to tell you, but that was an awful lot of blood soaked into that car seat, & it would be easy for a walker to wander of with her. I can't be 100% sure though, but well... there you have it. That was certainly the impression Rick & Carl had upon seeing the empty, bloodied carseat. If they were going to lose her to walkers, the show certainly couldn't show it. Hell, they even spared us directly seeing Hershel's decapitation, & the knowledge that, knowing the Gov.'s habits, Hershel's zombified head is still out there

Maybe I'm wrong though, & Judith with resurface, having been saved by someone who was just bleeding very badly, but honestly... How much good news do Rick & Carl ever get?
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her dying would solve a lot of production issues I'm sure. But I don't think anything is for sure.


And carl and daryl's hair have been cut. It's all short on top and then long and stringy around the edges. That is not what happens when you don't cut your hair.
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Looks all longish to me, in a rather unkempt kind of way
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