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| VioletCloud | Mon Jul 5, 2010 9:25 am Post #1 |
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Did anyone watch this? we are almost done with Season one. I must say.. most of it wears on my Feminine side.. but its very well written. I think I like it, despite what bothers me.. Brad Durof (lon suder from Voyager) Displays his mad acting skills! Damn hes good! |
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| Mojochi | Mon Jul 5, 2010 10:51 am Post #2 |
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One of my all time favorite shows. Been a while since I've seen it though. What do you mean, wears on your feminine side?  I love that for the first time, the Old West is depicted in a way that is of course rough, rugged, & dangerous, like you'd expect, and realistically filled with all the racism, sexism, other moral issues that defined the era, but at the same time, the language is almost classical or Victorian or something. Short of slang, profanity, & other various colloquialism, the way people spoke then, especially the literate people, would have to have been a purer form of English than modern times, & it's refreshing to see that depicted, & even challenging, at times, which is bold Season one is brilliant. Things I'd never even expect. That preacher stuff just comes out of nowhere & grabs you by the balls. Season 2 & 3 are also very good, but be prepared for a anti-climax, because the show got canceled, after season 3 & it just stops, right in the middle of major developments Biggest disappointment in tv history, imo 
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| DNesh | Mon Jul 5, 2010 10:57 am Post #3 |
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Me to, Mojo! I loved 'Deadwood'. I would have to watch one episode a few times to get the jist of all the conversation. Then, I got smart and watched it with the closed caption on. That really helps. That was a brilliant series. I really wanted to see if anything more was going to come of that hunky Sheriff.....and, the widow.. Calamity Jane was awesome! The entire cast was phenomenal...and, kudo's to the writers!! And, how can you not love Al Swearengen....LOL!! OK...One must have a hearty appetite for that. I certainly wouldn't have wanted to have sex with him. That was strictly saved for the sherriff... 
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| spocklet | Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:35 am Post #4 |
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Deadwood. Cancelled. Unsurprising, with a name like that, really.  |
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| VioletCloud | Mon Jul 5, 2010 7:56 pm Post #5 |
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the women are treated so poorly... I know its realistic but I just want to kick someone in the balls. It angers me. but that's part of my personality.... if I watch a porn.. and its looks at all forced.. I get really upset. Even though I know these women got paid for it and were ok with it. its a mental thing for me. a Personal thing. and apparently the real Al Swearnington(sp) bought the girls from orphanages. where they were already being raped and beaten.. and not getting paid for it... Gave them more control than they previously had Oh yes!! Montana (seth bullock) is quite the hottie.. I could just eat him up! The writer said that in deadwood they used the worse kinds of cussing for that time.. so he updated it to the worst kinds of cussing for our day. I hate the word C_nt ...but I let it slide for this show |
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| DNesh | Mon Jul 5, 2010 8:04 pm Post #6 |
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I always wondered about that. They use the F word tons. Did they really use that word back then. I guess the swearing of yesteryear would pale in comparioson..so the writers took poetic liscence so we could get the full impact. If a woman did not have a solid support system she was screwed. Even your family sold you down the river in the guise of your best interests....as arranged marriages...or, being held back from schooling to learn womanly roles. |
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| DNesh | Mon Jul 5, 2010 8:12 pm Post #7 |
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Get with it, Paul! Deadwood exists! Many characters from the show are pulled from history....  Deadwood is a city in South Dakota, United States, and the county seat of Lawrence County. It is named for the dead trees found in its gulch.[4] The population was 2,071 as of the 2000 census. The city includes the Deadwood Historic District, a National Historic Landmark District, whose borders may be the city limits. 19th century The settlement of Deadwood began in the 1870s and has been described as illegal, since it lay within the territory granted to Native Americans in the 1868 Treaty of Laramie. The treaty had guaranteed ownership of the Black Hills to the Lakota people, and disputes over the Hills are ongoing, having reached the United States Supreme Court on several occasions. However, in 1874, Colonel George Armstrong Custer led an expedition into the Hills and announced the discovery of gold on French Creek near present-day Custer, South Dakota. Custer's announcement triggered the Black Hills Gold Rush and gave rise to the lawless town of Deadwood, which quickly reached a population of around 5,000. In early 1876, frontiersman Charlie Utter and his brother Steve led a wagon train to Deadwood containing what were deemed to be needed commodities to bolster business, including gamblers and prostitutes, which proved to be a profitable venture. Demand for women was high, and the business of prostitution proved to be a good market. Madam Dora DuFran would eventually become the most profitable brothel owner in Deadwood, closely followed by Madam Mollie Johnson. Businessman Tom Miller opened the Bella Union Saloon in September of that year. Another saloon was the Gem Variety Theater, opened April 7, 1877 by Al Swearengen who also controlled the opium trade in the town. The saloon was destroyed by a fire and rebuilt in 1879. It burned down again in 1899, causing Swearengen to leave the town. The town attained notoriety for the murder of Wild Bill Hickok, and Mount Moriah Cemetery remains the final resting place of Hickok and Calamity Jane, as well as slightly less notable figures such as Seth Bullock. It became known for its wild and almost lawless reputation, during which time murder was common, and punishment for murders not always fair and impartial. The prosecution of the murderer of Hickok, Jack McCall, had to be sent to retrial because of a ruling that his first trial, which resulted in an acquittal, was invalid because Deadwood was an illegal town. This moved the trial to a Dakota Territory court, where he was found guilty and then hanged. As the economy changed from gold rush to steady mining, Deadwood lost its rough and rowdy character and settled down into a prosperous town. In 1876, a smallpox epidemic swept through the camp, with so many falling sick that tents had to be set up to quarantine them. Also in that year, General George Crook pursued the Sioux Indians from the Battle of Little Big Horn on an expedition that ended in Deadwood, and that came to be known as the Horsemeat March. The Homestake Mine in nearby Lead was established in 1877. A fire on September 26, 1879 devastated the town, destroying over 300 buildings and consuming everything belonging to many inhabitants. Many of the newly impoverished left town to try their luck elsewhere, without the opportunities of rich untapped veins of ore that characterized the town's early days. A narrow gauge railroad, the Deadwood Central Railroad, was founded by Deadwood resident J.K.P. Miller and his associates in 1888, in order to serve their mining interests in the Black Hills. The railroad was purchased by the Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad in 1893. A portion of the road between Deadwood and Lead was electrified in 1902 for operation as an interurban passenger system, which operated until 1924. The railroad was abandoned in 1930, apart from a portion from Kirk to Fantail Junction, which was converted to standard gauge. The remaining section was abandoned by the successor Burlington Northern Railroad in 1984.[5] Some of the other early town residents and frequent visitors included Al Swearengen, E. B. Farnum, Charlie Utter, Sol Star, Martha Bullock, A. W. Merrick, Samuel Fields, Dr. Valentine McGillycuddy, the Reverend Henry Weston Smith, and Wild Bill Hickok. [edit] 20th and 21st centuries Another major fire in September 1959 came close to destroying the town. About 4,500 acres were burned and an evacuation order was issued. Nearly 3,600 volunteer and professional firefighters, including personnel from the Homestake Mine and Ellsworth Air Force Base, worked to contain the fire, which resulted in a major regional economic downturn.[6] The entire town was designated a National Historic Landmark in 1961. However, the town underwent additional decline and financial stresses during the next two decades.[1] Interstate 90 bypassed it in 1964 and its brothels were shut down after a 1980 raid.[1] A fire in December 1987 destroyed the historic Syndicate Building and a neighboring structure.[1] The fire spurred the "Deadwood Experiment", in which gambling was tested as a means of revitalizing a city center.[1] At the time, gambling was legal only in the state of Nevada and in Atlantic City.[7] Deadwood was the first small community in the U.S. to seek legal gambling revenues as a way of maintaining local historic qualities.[7] Gambling was legalized in Deadwood in 1989 and immediately brought significant new revenues and development.[8] The pressure of development may have an effect on the historical integrity of the landmark district.[8] Geography According to the United States Census Bureau, the city has a total area of 4.5 square miles all of it land. |
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| DNesh | Mon Jul 5, 2010 8:17 pm Post #8 |
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Something a little interesting for you Star Trek junkies....  Deadwood in fiction Deadwood's history and inhabitants are the foundation of Pete Dexter's 1986 novel, Deadwood, in which Charles Utter, Wild Bill Hickok, and Calamity Jane are the central characters. The town's early history forms the basis for the storyline of the HBO TV series named Deadwood. In the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "A Fistful of Datas", the holodeck program that Worf, his son Alexander, and Deanna Troi participate in takes place in 19th century Deadwood. The Tales from Deadwood series of novels by Mike Jameson, published by the Berkley Publishing Group, are set in Deadwood and feature Wild Bill Hickok, Calamity Jane, Al Swearengen, and other historical figures. In Flashman and the Redskins, the eponymous hero, an acquaintance of Wild Bill Hickok, ends his adventure in Deadwood in 1876, shortly before Hickok's death. Season 1 of the 1960s TV show Adam 12: in episode 14, "The Long walk", an old man was found who reminisced about his early life in Deadwood SD. |
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| Mojochi | Mon Jul 5, 2010 9:59 pm Post #9 |
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Look at it like this. Everyone is treated disrespectfully, in that town, unless they are either rich, or will kill you for it. That is their reality Sometimes intelligence will get you a little respect, on its own merits, but not much, & not for long |
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| spocklet | Tue Jul 6, 2010 1:14 am Post #10 |
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Donna, many apologies hon, I was just being facetious.  Fascinating history, though. |
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| VioletCloud | Tue Jul 6, 2010 8:09 pm Post #11 |
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just finished Season one! it really is a darn good show. Brad Durof (sp) so reminds me of Dr. McCoy!! freaking awesome! its strange... Swearengen is a rude jerk on the outside.. but kind of gentle on the inside and the other saloon owner.. Ty something.. is nice on the outside.. and evil on the inside |
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| Mojochi | Tue Jul 6, 2010 9:39 pm Post #12 |
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They're both pretty ruthless, and they both have their soft spots too It's Cy Tolliver, btw |
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| DNesh | Wed Jul 7, 2010 6:59 am Post #13 |
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You got that right, Violet. Ty is pure evil with all his good manners. He will stab in you in the back and smile at you. Al is hardcore rough to the soul.....and, he takes NO SHIT PERIOD...but, somewhere when forced to think about it he has a scruple, or two. I do not want to give away much but the scenes where he is deathly ill.....you see him in all his vulnerability......and, I love the reactions to all around him who deem him as the boss and seeing him in this manner. That show has one hell of a cast of fine actors!!!! I also love the way he stands on the balcony of the saloon and watches his town not missing a trick. He's like the lord overboss. Nothing gets by him. 
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| VioletCloud | Thu Jan 6, 2011 10:28 pm Post #14 |
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Just started season 3! Timothy Olyphant is so hot.. *swoon* but... I find him odd looking outside his deadwood mustache..lol |
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| DNesh | Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:12 pm Post #15 |
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Can't wait to hear what you think of Season 3. Still one of my all time favorite shows. I wished they would have made the two, two hour movies to end the series. 
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| VioletCloud | Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:55 pm Post #16 |
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it was good... its a big build up... to a cliff hanger.. and no returning season. but to make myself feel better, I went and looked up how long the real people lived... most of the good ones lived another 20yrs after the year the series takes place.. that made me feel good |
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| Mojochi | Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:46 pm Post #17 |
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His eyes look creepier without facial hair, hence why he only really gets bad guys or psycho parts now
This is what I loved about the show. It's a combination of proper Queen's English, & the beginnings of American slang, because the town was such a diverse cross section of the wealthy, educated, outlaw, & illiterate. It is probably the most well planned & captivating part of the show, the language. They didn't dump tons of the thick language on us, right away, in season one, but by the time season 3 came around, it became all consuming, with guys like Hearst joining the cast. Even though I had become accustomed to it, I found there were certain passages that even I had to go back and listen to again |
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| VioletCloud | Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:00 pm Post #18 |
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imagine how tough it would be to understand if they didnt use todays worst language. also.. this show is the only time i have ever laughed when someone said the c-word. Every time Swearengen calls Trixie a loopy C*nt ... and I crack up |
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| Sid | Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:04 pm Post #19 |
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That's the most I've seen of it 
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| Mojochi | Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:05 pm Post #20 |
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The only time I thought Sheriff Bullock might kill Swearengen was when he called Alma Garret that. I was like "Oh, I guess the sheriff don't like that word"
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