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| wissaboo | Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:18 pm Post #1341 |
 
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but, they were stinky. but right. They had been dead more than a day and widmore had only just arrived. |
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| Mojochi | Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:19 pm Post #1342 |
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Yes, that is logical. It's very possible Smokey got to them a while back, before the temple people got it Two things I find curious. First, Widmore has been trying to get back to this island ever since Ben somehow ousted him. I wonder why it seems like he has not yet set foot on the island, & is chilling out in the sub, with some secretly locked away...... something or someone. I'm wondering if there is something more to him not going ashore yet, like he can't, or is it just that the sub is his base camp, & he still needs to coordinate from there, or is he afraid of Smokey, until the pylons are functional? & if Smokey is likely to kill Widmore, & Smokey kills people who are against him, like those at the temple, then does that mean Widmore is aligned with Jacob's cause, like hurley & Jack? I wonder what's locked away. Could it be Desmond? Secondly, I understand, that now that Sawyer has been catapulted back to 2007, & has lost Juliet, that he wants off the island. That's always been his main goal, except for his time in Dharmaville, which I assume he stayed because of Juliet, & there lack of wanting to be out of time, back in the world But why would Kate want off the island? I seem to recall she got off, & came back to find & help Claire, who she found, & more importantly, is in definite need of some serious help |
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| rab24 | Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:34 pm Post #1343 |
 
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Kate has raised Aaron as her own child. That's reason enough. Remember that Jacob was trying to help someone find the island. It would seem that someone was Widmore. Someone needs to look back through the cave names to see if Charles is listed as a candidate on Jacob's list. I would guess that the smoke monster can't get to Widmore in the sub -either built in pylon technology or the water offers some protection. Speaking of which, the second island didn't seem to require the pylons before as if the smoke monster couldn't get them over there. Not completely sure what all that means, but I'm at least leaning toward fake Locke not having escaped from our view just to skip over to the other island and kill everyone. How long on the island has this season been so far anyway? |
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| wissaboo | Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:32 pm Post #1344 |
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only a couple days I think. I don't remember them sleeping at the temple . and I wondered about the smoke monster being able to cross the water. But obviously they expect him to at some point or no pylons. and I'm not surprised kate wants off the island. She came to find claire because she thought aaron needed her. No one would hand a child to clair now. Getting her off the island is pretty impractical. So she wants to get back to Aaron. |
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| Mojochi | Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:43 pm Post #1345 |
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Dammit, I want Desmond back! Even more than finding out about Richard. Desmond must return! |
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| VioletCloud | Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:29 am Post #1346 |
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 are you working on some kind of theory?? Desmond has been completely off my radar.. |
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| VioletCloud | Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:25 pm Post #1347 |
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That Episode was great! I loved it! My friend says she heard theorys of Jacob and the man in black as being "jacob and Esau" not sure if that works or not.. but pretty interesting. Richard seemed so weak and naive in the past... it was hard to believe he was/is the same man.. but I guess a few hundred years of growth will do that to a person lol They kinda played it like it was God and Satan in more ways that one.. sure they used the "devil" reference alot.. but that fit in with the times.. Jacob not wanting to interfere in peoples choices.. and Richard saying that the man in black would do it for him then.. seemed like something someone would say to God when they were having issues with the way the world works. They used religion a lot.. but once again.. I believe that was mostly because it fit in with the era that they were in for Richards back story That kind of talk wouldnt work on someone like.. Jack or Sawyer. So it hasnt been a focal point before. over all I loved this episode! guess everyone was right about Richard being on the Blackrock! |
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| wissaboo | Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:59 pm Post #1348 |
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I liked the analogy that the wine is evil and the cork holds it in. With the island being the cork. |
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| spocklet | Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:10 pm Post #1349 |
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Still say those guys died in the air crash, and they have to redeem their 'evil' ways. |
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| Mojochi | Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:53 am Post #1350 |
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Boy, a lot of back story, but I still think more is needed to completely understand what's happened, all these years Thank god for Hurley. He is like the only centering influence left on the show right now. He has always been my favorite character, but now I always feel as though everything will be alright, as long as he is around. I'd like to think Desmond has some kind of effect like that too, if they would, you know... bring him back A wonderful episode, but didn't progress our story much. It was more like a puzzle which has parts that have started looking like the picture on the box, & so we had to fill in those obvious pieces. I suspect there will be more of that type of thing, as the story comes to a completion. Probably will have a lot to do with the Widmore angle. That's a big chunk of this story, because Ben is the one who somehow ousted Widmore, & seized control over the followers of Jacob & in the end, Ben becomes the tool that kills Jacob. That can't be a coincidence. Widmore's role in this will be explained, & I bet it's surprising The one thing that stuck with me, in this episode, is that Jacob told Richard that many had been to the island before him, & they had all died, & that makes me think about how many people had been living on this island in the time since Richard, especially in the time since Dharma. Several whole communities built there, including our 815 survivors. So many of them now dead Who's left on the island now? Nobody's at the temple. Nobody's left at the barracks (Dharmaville) All that is left, are the people with PseudoLocke, the people with Widmore. & the people on the beach, & I'm almost certain that some of them are going to die. Maybe a lot. Walt, Aaron, Des & Penny are the only X factors which still haven't surfaced & have I mentioned how much I love Cindy, & how glad I am that she has been around throughout the whole series? She's like one of the most cherished threads, that tie us back to our beginnings |
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| VioletCloud | Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:30 am Post #1351 |
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Wouldnt Rose and her husband be an X factor too? I wonder if Locke has killed them? this was the first time I thought of Hurley as something more than just a fun guy... he might actually have a chance at being the "chosen one" |
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| wissaboo | Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:47 am Post #1352 |
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totally. |
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| Mojochi | Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:05 pm Post #1353 |
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Oops, forgot about Rose & Bernard, though I suspect they are right where we left them, at their camp. However, it's very likely they have been catapulted back to 2007, especially if one or both of them are candidates. There's only six living candidates now, & I can only be certain of four of them. Jack, Sawyer, Hurley, & at least one of the Kwons. It will inevitably be very cool when they reveal the last two. It may even be people we haven't thought about, like Rose, Bernard, Frank, or Miles, etc... I believe it's been hinted at, that Kate isn't one of them. Although, Jacob did visit Kate as a child. Sayid was one, but his dying may have changed his status, regardless of whatever spookiness is going on with him Dead is seemingly pretty final, even on this show, so I'm very baffled about wtf the story is, behind how Ben & Sayid were dead & then suddenly weren't. I've thought of Hurley as much more than a fun guy, ever since the dead people started showing up, & that includes his old buddy Dave, from season two. That's when warning signs started popping up, for me. In hindsight, I really don't want to believe he was just an imaginary friend, but I doubt we will get any resolution on that Wouldn't it be cool though to have it tie into the fact that Libby was in Hurley's institution, & her deceased husband's name was David. Sadly, the writers have somewhat dispelled the notion that these two Davids are the same. It sure would have given great insight to her character though |
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| wissaboo | Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:49 pm Post #1354 |
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so I'm right in assuming the numbers correspond to the numbers assigned diffferent candidates, right? |
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| rab24 | Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:40 pm Post #1355 |
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The thing that got me about the last episode is why Jacob brought the boat to the island and then let the man in black just kill everyone. |
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| VioletCloud | Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:57 pm Post #1356 |
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The TV guide says the final canadiates are... and the writers agree with the article.. according to TV guide.. Spoiler One of these will be the chosen candidate Sun jin hurley Sayid Jack sawyer |
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| Mojochi | Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:17 pm Post #1357 |
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Perhaps Jacob hadn't planned for everyone to be killed, when he brought the boat. He also claimed, in that episode, that he doesn't interfere. I assume that includes interfering with the man in black. Blackie might not customarily kill everyone Jacob brings, at least not right off, like that. It's possible, that for some time nearing 1867, Blackie decided he wasn't going to play nice anymore, & has gone on the offensive against Jacob, who hasn't done anything to prevent it... until he takes on Richard, to be his enactor. Notice how the first thing Jacob does, when Richard arrives, is kick his ass. He does seem to know that Blackie is going to send people to kill him. Plus, Smokie didn't kill everyone, on the Black Rock. Jonas Whitfield murdered almost all the slaves himself. Oddly, Jacob doesn't seem to know anybody on the Black Rock, beforehand, including Richard. It's also odd, that even when appearing as the man in black, Blackie states that he has lost his body, which could mean that even that body is not his original. I'm still assuming this goes back to when Jacob & Blackie were kids (The blond kid NotLocke & Sawyer saw) That blond kid mentioned rules. I think Blackie/Smokie has to follow rules when he kills people, which has led to a process that is played out fully with people like Mr. Eko. Sometimes Smokie kills instantly, & sometimes he waits. I'm not sure why |
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| rab24 | Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:55 pm Post #1358 |
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Hanso said there were at least 5 officers still around which means blackie was moving much faster than we've seen. And am I remembering correctly that the commandos mostly got away from blackie with injuries. Hanso never had a chance. It's possible that Jacob didn't know Richard because he was bringing someone else to the island. Even if he didn't know any of them, he claimed that he brought the boat to the island. With everything else Jacob has done and knows, it is just hard to fathom that he let blackie be host to the people he brought for that long. At least we know what happened to the rest of the statue. |
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| wissaboo | Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:01 pm Post #1359 |
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but he brought people to the island to prove to smokie that people are good and not inherently evil. So maybe he has no other interest in the people other than as a lab rat. Which in itself is evil. |
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| rab24 | Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:04 pm Post #1360 |
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you have a point, but still non-interference is a far cry from letting your nemesis cancel your experiment before it begins. |
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