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LOST SPOILERS; the OFFICIAL thread
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Mojochi	Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:06 pm Post #1301
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rab24	Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:21 am Post #1302
Posts: 5,349 Group: 5000 post Angel Member #7 Joined: November 17, 2005	Mojochi Feb 19 2010, 01:02 AM VioletCloud Feb 18 2010, 06:42 PM Hurley still played the lottery and won though.. whether or not he used those #'s He said so on the plane... I thought Sawyer was happy because he had identified a new target... Hurley! but it didn't seem to pan out... cause the next scene.. hes with kate in the elevator.. Right, the source of Hurley's belief in being cursed came from using the numbers to win. He couldn't have done so, because Sam Toomey (& Rouseau, for that matter) would not have picked up that transmission from the island. He won anyway, & now believes he's lucky, or so it would seem Sawyer just seemed a bit different to me, than he should have been if his life we like it was on the original flight. I don't think he planned to con Hurley, & the subsequent events after the flight, where Hurley helps Locke out, seems to go along with that assumption. Hurley's lucky. Sawyer is seemingly not hellbent on murder, Claire is welcoming motherhood & Locke is in a relationship & becoming content. Kate is really the only one we've seen continue along like she might have initially, & maybe Jack. Don't know much about him yet, or the Kwons How does Hurley helping Locke support any assumption about Sawyer? Sawyer seems the same to me. He's still a con artist that apparently flew to Australia to kill a guy. Helping out Kate goes along with his bad boy streak. If he changed after that to the point you think he acts like a better person, it would indicate he is okay with killing a guy. Kate, Jack, Rose, and Charlie seem like they could have been the same up to the flight. As Violet said, Claire was traveling across the pond to give up her kid. That means someone set her up on that flight rather than just giving the kid up in AUS. The fact that she is second guessing her choice when it is time to give the kid up is normal. Hurley I'm not sure about. He still ended up in coach and on the later flight. When it comes to money, he was always lucky. It was just bad things that happened around him. Locke I'm also having trouble with. his personal life seems different, but his work and physical condition are the same. However, before Helen had the heart to heart with him, I got the feeling he could have left her because of his own self loathing. I'm wondering if they are doing a retcon where Helen's been there all along but Locke was having a 1-900 affair.
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Mojochi	Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:40 pm Post #1303
........................... Posts: 13,333 Group: Movie Era 10000 post spammer Member #1,478 Joined: November 14, 2007	rab24 Feb 20 2010, 01:21 PM How does Hurley helping Locke support any assumption about Sawyer? Only that Hurley doesn't seem like someone who'd been conned out of a ton of money (by Sawyer), when we see him later on at Locke's box company. I was mostly responding to Violet's comment about Sawyer conning Hurley. Just a feeling really, that Sawyer's not planning to con Hurley, & Hurley is having much better good fortune than he had when he used the numbers to win the lottery, in the other reality. Could all mean nothing though. lol rab24 Feb 20 2010, 01:21 PM Sawyer seems the same to me. He's still a con artist that apparently flew to Australia to kill a guy. Helping out Kate goes along with his bad boy streak. If he changed after that to the point you think he acts like a better person, it would indicate he is okay with killing a guy. I can't even be sure he did kill the guy. He just didn't seem like someone hellbent on revenge. Again, all just a feeling. Nothing concrete. Still too soon to know wth is going on rab24 Feb 20 2010, 01:21 PM Kate, Jack, Rose, and Charlie seem like they could have been the same up to the flight. As Violet said, Claire was traveling across the pond to give up her kid. That means someone set her up on that flight rather than just giving the kid up in AUS. The fact that she is second guessing her choice when it is time to give the kid up is normal. Agreed, there's been no indication yet, that anything is largely different in their lives, except I can't remember what Rose did for a living, in the previous reality, & Charlie's haircut is different rab24 Feb 20 2010, 01:21 PM Hurley I'm not sure about. He still ended up in coach and on the later flight. When it comes to money, he was always lucky. It was just bad things that happened around him. that seemingly don't happen anymore rab24 Feb 20 2010, 01:21 PM Locke I'm also having trouble with. his personal life seems different, but his work and physical condition are the same. However, before Helen had the heart to heart with him, I got the feeling he could have left her because of his own self loathing. I'm wondering if they are doing a retcon where Helen's been there all along but Locke was having a 1-900 affair. That's possible, but I'm also wondering about that comment, that they plan to invite Locke's dad to their wedding. I can't imagine any reality where a guy who paralyzes his son by pushing him out a window, gets an invite to the wedding, unless Locke has been lying to Helen about the whole thing, which I agree is possible :magstar:



VioletCloud	Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:12 pm Post #1304
Water Tribe! Posts: 18,370 Group: Admin Member #1,331 Joined: October 14, 2007	Mojochi Feb 20 2010, 02:40 PM rab24 Feb 20 2010, 01:21 PM How does Hurley helping Locke support any assumption about Sawyer? Only that Hurley doesn't seem like someone who'd been conned out of a ton of money (by Sawyer), when we see him later on at Locke's box company. I was mostly responding to Violet's comment about Sawyer conning Hurley. Just a feeling really, that Sawyer's not planning to con Hurley, & Hurley is having much better good fortune than he had when he used the numbers to win the lottery, in the other reality. Could all mean nothing though. lol I said I thought sawyer had identified a new target in hurley.. but it didnt seem to pan out. Sawyer seemed all happy go con-y when Hurley said he was a millionaire. but next scene it seemed completely different... No Sawyer following hurley around
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Mojochi	Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:52 pm Post #1305
........................... Posts: 13,333 Group: Movie Era 10000 post spammer Member #1,478 Joined: November 14, 2007	Right



rab24	Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:35 am Post #1306
Posts: 5,349 Group: 5000 post Angel Member #7 Joined: November 17, 2005	If Sawyer had killed the wrong guy, his mission would have been getting the guy who set played him rather than setting up a new con. For Hurley, his luck was always such that if someone tried to con him out of money, he could just sit back and watch bad things happen to them. Quote: (rab24 @ Feb 20 2010 01:21 PM) Hurley I'm not sure about. He still ended up in coach and on the later flight. When it comes to money, he was always lucky. It was just bad things that happened around him. that seemingly don't happen anymore confused-smiley-013.gif Which part? We saw him in coach. I suppose various changes could have made him originally book the later flight rather than the one he missed before, but then he should have been up in first where he only needed 1 seat.
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wissaboo	Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:47 am Post #1307
Posts: 25,676 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 16, 2005	knowing hurley he is probably so uncomfortable being rich that he sits in coach on purpose.



spocklet	Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:41 pm Post #1308
Live long and prosper.....!! Posts: 24,406 Group: VOY Nirvana Member #5,885 Joined: May 31, 2009	Maybe he just likes to slum it ??
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wissaboo	Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:56 am Post #1309
Posts: 25,676 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 16, 2005	Well that was interesting. Jack has a son. Guess his life is a little bit different after all. And the chinese guy is also in the states. I think this means the accident caused ripples far beyond the plane crashing and there is no one left on the island. Hurly is talking to dead people again. The guy from the temple that claire killed is using very modern language so that kinda goes against him being on the island for centuries. oh and claire is nuts, she has totally turned into the french woman. Except the others really did have the french woman's baby. And she is friends with the smoke monster. And can recognize it in any form. So her and sawyer are the only ones. and adam and eve are back. And jack's father is still lost in both realities. I still think that is going to mean something.



DNesh	Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:05 am Post #1310
Us..... Posts: 2,891 Group: 1000 Post angel Member #1,414 Joined: November 1, 2007	There is nothing in all those seasons we watched that let us know Jack had a son. Why would he never have mentioned that. I found that way to wierd.
	And....the kids!


wissaboo	Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:06 am Post #1311
Posts: 25,676 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 16, 2005	this is a different reality. The previous jack, and the jack on the island, doesn't have a son. though it does appear that he finds out about claire in every reality.



Mojochi	Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:50 am Post #1312
........................... Posts: 13,333 Group: Movie Era 10000 post spammer Member #1,478 Joined: November 14, 2007	Yup, originally no son, hence why Jack says to Hurley that he'd make a terrible father. The alternate reality is different, although certain things seem to occur in both, regardless, like Jack having his appendix removed, first on the island, and now in his childhood. Odd that he doesn't remember the things which are disparate from his island reality, almost as if he hadn't lived those events, like he's not the Jack who did. I'm thinking he isn't, like maybe he is from a different reality and is somehow being placed in this one, to be shown these events I think what Jack saw in the lighthouse is more than just Jacob observing them, I think the Losties' lives were shaped to bring them to where they are, & when Jughead destroys the island, that influence on their lives was no longer present, thus why their lives end up differently, in some cases In this season's premier episode, as flight 815 flies over the island, there is a long shot that leads into the ocean that shows the island under the ocean. The Jughead bomb destroys the island, in the 70's, & all the people who were evacuated, or hadn't been to the island by then, have different lives in that reality, like Ethan, who is Horace Goodspeed's son, and was likely evacuated with the other Dharma people, during the incident, & now, he is a doctor in L.A.



VioletCloud	Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:48 pm Post #1313
Water Tribe! Posts: 18,370 Group: Admin Member #1,331 Joined: October 14, 2007	Mojochi Feb 24 2010, 10:50 AM I think what Jack saw in the lighthouse is more than just Jacob observing them, I think the Losties' lives were shaped to bring them to where they are, & when Jughead destroys the island, that influence on their lives was no longer present, thus why their lives end up differently, in some cases I concur! The new reality is there lives minus any involvement from Jacob.
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Mojochi	Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:31 pm Post #1314
........................... Posts: 13,333 Group: Movie Era 10000 post spammer Member #1,478 Joined: November 14, 2007	VioletCloud Feb 24 2010, 11:48 PM Mojochi Feb 24 2010, 10:50 AM I think what Jack saw in the lighthouse is more than just Jacob observing them, I think the Losties' lives were shaped to bring them to where they are, & when Jughead destroys the island, that influence on their lives was no longer present, thus why their lives end up differently, in some cases I concur! The new reality is there lives minus any involvement from Jacob. & what's hard to accept, is that I think we are purposely seeing that things end up ok for them, with the single exception of Kate who we still haven't gotten the full story on, I imagine I'm worried about Sayid. Seen nothing about him off island, & what we've seen on the island has the potential to go very badly He's all alone, at the temple now, with a bunch of people he is aware were trying to kill him, & all signs point to Locke, Sawyer, Claire, & Jin coming there, soon. When this gets ugly, who do you think Sayid will fall in with? Jack, & Hurley will probably fall in with Sun, Frank & Ilana, & this could be a lot of trouble, if they converge at the Temple, with Locke's crew. Man I hope they find Richard, and I really wish I knew more about who Richard, & Ilana are, as well as her "Shadow of the four toed statue" cronies. They are important in this, & many of them will probably die. Some already have



Mojochi	Wed Mar 3, 2010 5:53 am Post #1315
........................... Posts: 13,333 Group: Movie Era 10000 post spammer Member #1,478 Joined: November 14, 2007	Well, looks like the two sects won't be converging just yet. A very exciting episode, if still a bit enigmatic. I'm also beginning to think these flash-sideways deals are going to end up being more linear than we are collectively thinking. It almost seems to me like our main characters are living the lives they should have lived, but not as the lost people we saw in the flashbacks of the early seasons, but rather as the people we have watched evolve for 6 seasons on the island, like their island experience has given them the change of spirit they needed, to carry on the lives they were meant to live, without being... Lost The common thread is that they all seem to end up at piece with who they are, in the alternate reality = Not Lost but found A good example of this is Jack, saying only last week, to Hurley, that he believes he'd be a terrible father, & yet we get to see him being a rather patient & understanding father Jacob has intervened into their lives at the turning point, where they will become shaped by an event. The island gave them each what they needed, to find themselves, and be at peace



VioletCloud	Wed Mar 3, 2010 6:33 pm Post #1316
Water Tribe! Posts: 18,370 Group: Admin Member #1,331 Joined: October 14, 2007	Before watching this episode I thought Sun was going to die, just because of the title! lol Sundown! haha Im assuming shes not the chosen Kwon.. because she didnt "time travel" with the rest of the losties..
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Purplelizard2006	Wed Mar 3, 2010 7:38 pm Post #1317
It's Christmas! Posts: 10,969 Group: TNG 10000 post spammer Member #53 Joined: June 17, 2006	What about Sayid? Did you all saw what happen in Sayid's alternative life? Now evil is lurking on the island and it is getting worst...Claire and Sayid... I am going scream!
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DNesh	Thu Mar 4, 2010 6:39 am Post #1318
Us..... Posts: 2,891 Group: 1000 Post angel Member #1,414 Joined: November 1, 2007	Stooooopid Idol! I forgot about 'Lost' tille I accidentally turned the channel at 9:30 PM during an Idol commercial...... Watching it on-line is cool cause the graphics are awesome. Guess that is what I'll be doing.....
	And....the kids!


wissaboo	Thu Mar 4, 2010 5:48 pm Post #1319
Posts: 25,676 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 16, 2005	interesting sayid doesn't get the girl in any life.



DNesh	Thu Mar 4, 2010 7:35 pm Post #1320
Us..... Posts: 2,891 Group: 1000 Post angel Member #1,414 Joined: November 1, 2007	Sayid is so hot! His face makes me melt....
	And....the kids!


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