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LOST SPOILERS; the OFFICIAL thread
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wissaboo	Wed Apr 8, 2009 10:17 pm Post #1101
Posts: 25,676 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 16, 2005	Violet Apr 8 2009, 08:01 PM rab24 Apr 8 2009, 06:13 PM I think Christian is a ghost person. Now we have proof that even ghosts can throw people around. And since John knows where to find the smoke monster, he seems much more connected. Didn't Ben have a different way of summoning the smoke monster last time? yes.. I think he did call it differently. what was the point of telling that guy stories about Locke if your just gonna shoot him later. It seems like Ben misleading him was a waste of space... I mean we already know hes devious.. I liked the weird Egyptian part... it seems odd but I like that kind of stuff I think he was hedging his bets in case John didn't forgive him. Since he did he no longer needed ceaser so much tonight...... why did charles age when richard doesn't? how did charles end up the leader? where did the guns come from and why are those people acting so bizarre? are they "infected" like the french people were? what is the deal with the statue? why the egyptian stuff? and where did the others come from



wissaboo	Wed Apr 8, 2009 10:20 pm Post #1102
Posts: 25,676 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 16, 2005	Mojochi Apr 8 2009, 08:28 PM Jack & Sawyer seem entirely different now too, In Jack's case it worries me I think sawyer has been domesticated and he likes it I think jack has been disillusioned by his time off the island. He was a shining star who could do no wrong when he landed. Now he is a fuck-up drug addict doctor.



Mojochi	Thu Apr 9, 2009 7:47 am Post #1103
........................... Posts: 13,333 Group: Movie Era 10000 post spammer Member #1,478 Joined: November 14, 2007	wissaboo Apr 9 2009, 12:17 AM why did charles age when richard doesn't? I'm telling you. Something is up with Richard. He's not aging because he's not getting older. He's the same age. In every time period we've seen him, he's the same age, literally, not just looks the same age, but IS the same age. That's the only explanation I can think of, & the only legitimate vehicle on the show, I've seen, that could be capable of that, is time shifting Did anyone else take in the implications of what Ben's new episode means? The monster let him live. It killed Eko. Eko was a bad person. He may have done things that were good in his life, but when it came to judgment, he regretted none of the bad things he had done, & there were many, & he died for it Ben on the other hand, genuinely regrets all of the bad things he's done, especially costing Alex's life Believe it or not, Ben is a good person, & I've had the sneaking suspicion, all along, that they were going to do that with his character. I may be wrong, but Ben is probably going to change now. Remember when he apologized to Locke for making his life so miserable? I think he meant that Jack, on the other hand, has been treated like a hero all this time. We've rooted him on, felt sorry for him, hoped he would find love. I think those days might be over, at least for a while The tables are officially turned. Sawyer the Rogue is now domesticated. Locke the confused & misunderstood is now the man who will understand more than anyone



VioletCloud	Thu Apr 9, 2009 7:59 am Post #1104
Water Tribe! Posts: 18,370 Group: Admin Member #1,331 Joined: October 14, 2007	yeah... I was wondering about Sexy Alperts not ageing aswell. Also.. good post Mojo... your brilliant at grasping themes!!
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wissaboo	Thu Apr 9, 2009 8:07 am Post #1105
Posts: 25,676 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 16, 2005	I've always seen ben as an ambiguous figure. not an evil one.



VioletCloud	Thu Apr 9, 2009 8:13 am Post #1106
Water Tribe! Posts: 18,370 Group: Admin Member #1,331 Joined: October 14, 2007	Random thought I wonder if Sexy Alpert is Egyptian.. also... Anubis.. the Egyptian god with the head of a jackal (depicted on the wall in beneath the temple) is the god of Embalming and is usually depicted with scales.. weighing your heart against a feather. http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/egypt/anubis.htm
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wissaboo	Thu Apr 9, 2009 8:15 am Post #1107
Posts: 25,676 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 16, 2005	oooh that would explain the eyeliner still want to know how charles ended up leader when richard was leader before him



VioletCloud	Thu Apr 9, 2009 8:17 am Post #1108
Water Tribe! Posts: 18,370 Group: Admin Member #1,331 Joined: October 14, 2007	yes! the Eyeliner!! it seems to me that Richard is always around a leader himself in some way.. of something.... while there are also "other leaders" I don't get their pecking order at all
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VioletCloud	Thu Apr 9, 2009 9:14 am Post #1109
Water Tribe! Posts: 18,370 Group: Admin Member #1,331 Joined: October 14, 2007	I might be reaching.. but there are alot of things in this small article that remind me of lost http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/anubis.htm
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wissaboo	Thu Apr 9, 2009 9:32 am Post #1110
Posts: 25,676 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 16, 2005	I was wondering if richard WAS the smoke monster. Kinda like some physical manifestation of it that lives with the worshipers



Mojochi	Thu Apr 9, 2009 12:39 pm Post #1111
........................... Posts: 13,333 Group: Movie Era 10000 post spammer Member #1,478 Joined: November 14, 2007	Violet Apr 9 2009, 10:13 AM I wonder if Sexy Alpert is Egyptian.. Very possible. I'm still sort of leaning toward him or at least some of the Other's being the Black Rock crew Richard's not their leaded. probably more akin to the medicine man or shaman or something, not the chief Canine deity eh? where the hell has Vincent the dog been? I get uppity about characters we haven't seen in a while, who are still out there Rose & Bernard Farraday Vincent the dog Something interesting is always going on with those characters, but we're not involved yet, like when Claire or Walt went missing



rab24	Thu Apr 9, 2009 7:18 pm Post #1112
Posts: 5,349 Group: 5000 post Angel Member #7 Joined: November 17, 2005	Mojo, you are assuming that the island and the smoke monster work differently. Letting Ben live may indicate the island still has a purpose for him more so than he is good or bad. Alex, presumably working for the island, certainly didn't trust that he was all around good, but she gave leeway that he would do what the island told him. Two other explanations possible for Richard besides time shifting. First, he's hiding from Duncan. Second, he's not alive, but perhaps not as dead as Christian or Locke was - just not completely alive. That would keep him from being a leader, but still make him an important connection for whatever leader there was. It doesn't explain clothing changes.
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VioletCloud	Thu Apr 9, 2009 8:12 pm Post #1113
Water Tribe! Posts: 18,370 Group: Admin Member #1,331 Joined: October 14, 2007	Mojochi Apr 9 2009, 11:39 AM Canine deity eh? where the hell has Vincent the dog been? also.. when I was re-watching the first episode... it seemed as though Vincent was quietly important.. and they kept showing him "watching" the others.. er.. the losties.
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Mojochi	Thu Apr 9, 2009 11:09 pm Post #1114
........................... Posts: 13,333 Group: Movie Era 10000 post spammer Member #1,478 Joined: November 14, 2007	rab24 Apr 9 2009, 09:18 PM Mojo, you are assuming that the island and the smoke monster work differently. Letting Ben live may indicate the island still has a purpose for him more so than he is good or bad. Alex, presumably working for the island, certainly didn't trust that he was all around good, but she gave leeway that he would do what the island told him. I'm really only assuming that the monster stands in judgment, whether that's a part of the island, on the whole, is still to be determined, but very possible. Right now I can only postulate to the point that Eko died seemingly for the singular reason that he did not repent any of his evil doing. Ben lived for the fact that he did. I don't think Alex is working for it, That may just be how it works, a trick it does, evidenced by the way that Yemi told Eko "You speak to me as if I am your brother", to which Eko replied "Who are you?" Definitely not Yemi, is what it left me thinking, but I could be wrong. I'm certainly not positive about any of this Sort of makes you wonder what kind of despicable person the pilot was, that he got immediately snatched from the cockpit, brutalized & tossed into the trees like Eko rab24 Apr 9 2009, 09:18 PM Two other explanations possible for Richard besides time shifting. First, he's hiding from Duncan. Second, he's not alive, but perhaps not as dead as Christian or Locke was - just not completely alive. That would keep him from being a leader, but still make him an important connection for whatever leader there was. It doesn't explain clothing changes. I only really said I couldn't explain it with any other legitimized vehicle on the show, at this point. Time shifting has been legitimized. The partially dead or alive thing? We still have no bloody clue what's going on there. There's definitely something going on , but they have yet to fully legitimize it, or even try to explain it However, Next weeks episode seems to be about Miles' clairvoyance with the dead, so maybe we're getting to the point where it will be discussed, & Hurley, who has seemingly spoken to the dead, is involved. It's definitely coming around, & I'm still open to having some of the mysteries explained by it, but it just seems that time shifting is equally important, & we're not done understanding the implications of it yet Not sure what you mean by "Hiding from Duncan" Who's Duncan? Lostpedia said he is Kate's post-island lawyer Yes Violet! Vincent DOES seem important. He always has



VioletCloud	Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:23 am Post #1115
Water Tribe! Posts: 18,370 Group: Admin Member #1,331 Joined: October 14, 2007	It would be interesting if Hurley never was "crazy"...but more like Miles "I see dead people"
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Mojochi	Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:53 am Post #1116
........................... Posts: 13,333 Group: Movie Era 10000 post spammer Member #1,478 Joined: November 14, 2007	Violet Apr 10 2009, 08:23 AM It would be interesting if Hurley never was "crazy"...but more like Miles "I see dead people" I don't think Hurley is crazy. It's too easy



rab24	Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:47 am Post #1117
Posts: 5,349 Group: 5000 post Angel Member #7 Joined: November 17, 2005	Quote: I'm really only assuming that the monster stands in judgment, whether that's a part of the island, on the whole, is still to be determined, but very possible. Right now I can only postulate to the point that Eko died seemingly for the singular reason that he did not repent any of his evil doing. Ben lived for the fact that he did. I don't think Alex is working for it, That may just be how it works, a trick it does, evidenced by the way that Yemi told Eko "You speak to me as if I am your brother", to which Eko replied "Who are you?" Definitely not Yemi, is what it left me thinking, but I could be wrong. I'm certainly not positive about any of this Who Alex really was isn't important unless that apparition was completely independent of the smoke monster. If the smoke monster saw the true nature, there was a distrust of Ben's true intentions save for following the island's specific commands. I need to rewatch the Eko episode, but I seem to remember more being involved than just lack of repentance. Several others like the pilot were thrown around seemingly before they could be judged or repent. Quote: Not sure what you mean by "Hiding from Duncan" Who's Duncan? Lostpedia said he is Kate's post-island lawyer Duncan MacLeod of the clan MacLeod.
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wissaboo	Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:05 am Post #1118
Posts: 25,676 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 16, 2005	maybe the monster has more than one reason to kill people. I'm really glad to hear that Locke has an idea for getting the rest of them out of the 70's I'm tired of that whole thing now. and did no one else notice? Ben was shocked that they were placed back in the 70's he didn't know them and didn't remember that it was Sayid that shot him



rab24	Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:09 am Post #1119
Posts: 5,349 Group: 5000 post Angel Member #7 Joined: November 17, 2005	wissaboo Apr 10 2009, 10:05 AM and did no one else notice? Ben was shocked that they were placed back in the 70's he didn't know them and didn't remember that it was Sayid that shot him I don't trust Ben that much.
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VioletCloud	Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:21 am Post #1120
Water Tribe! Posts: 18,370 Group: Admin Member #1,331 Joined: October 14, 2007	Sexy alpert said that Ben would not remember... so.. perhaps they are removed from the 70's before ben gets back from the "others" camp also.. as far as the monster is concerned... perhaps time isnt an issue when you are being judged. It make take minutes or hours to the one being judged.. and seconds to everyone else.
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