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Topic Started: Tue Nov 6, 2007 5:48 pm (17,095 Views)
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That does seem plausible, but flaming arrows just doesn't seem Dharma's style, although it might have been, in the early days, before they finally decided to arm all the stations with guns
Flaming arrows would have been to provide visibility on the target location. Even if they had the rifles, they could have used flaming arrows to watch the hostiles run and adjust range appropriately. The shots came from the water, so whoever was shooting at least had a ship which makes me think they were hunting, and they were outside the Dharma fence which would have been Dharma's hunting groung for hostiles more so than the other way around.


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The fatal pregnancies thing could actually be another symptom of physiological effects of the temporal conditions on this island, like the nose bleeds, & headaches, & memory loss

The island halting the aging process keeps with the quick healing we've seen multiple times. The quick healing is probably associated with increased chemicals, mitocondrians or something that causes late term pregnancies to be overwhelmed also fitting with what Juliet has said. Juliet never linked any nose bleeds or such when she became very worried about Sun's pregnancy. Juliet had been with the Others for what, 2 years?

Danielle's daughter is aged appropriately for not jumping. She had also been with the Others her entire life, so if the Others were shifting as a group, she would have had a very lonely childhood.



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Not only that, but I'm beginning to think that the "Adam & Eve" corpses from season one are actually people we know, who will end up dying in the past. ... Wouldn't it be weird if it were Rose & Bernard, & they had the black & white stones with them, to be a clue to their identity,

I started thinking the same thing once Sawyer and Juliet started heading inland by themselves. Hadn't thought about Rose and Bernard, but that would be quite appropriate.


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Well, John is the only one who knows Ethan shot him, until he tells Richard, which was after Ethan was dead, now perhaps Richard could go back in time & tell Ethan not to do it, but maybe he didn't or wasn't able to, for whatever reason
It is not just that they could have tried to stop Ethan from killing Locke, but Ethan did not give any consideration to time jumps. If he had been jumping, he eventually would have gone to the future where he would be at least familiar with Locke's name. I don't think he had jumped before even though he was good friends with Richard.

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Were any of the 815 survivors with Richard's group when Locke met up with them at the finale last season
I don't think so. Many of them wanted off the island. A number of them were killed by the freighter troopers, Some blew up on the freighter, & there's still at least a dozen of them on the beach now, at least until the arrow attack. I figure the people on the beach, who are shifting, are the last of the Losties. It's been a rough ride
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You missed my point. The survivors who were kidnapped when they first got to the island and the flight attendant have shown up numerous times with the Others. If the Losties as a group are shifting based on when they came to the island (which allows Juliet and the freighter expedition to shift with them as late additions to the island), then those with the Others should be shifting with the Losties.
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Ben has also aged.

Ben and Danielle are the only two people to "grow up" on the island??

What about... i forget his name.. the little boy from season one and two..
Could Locke and the dead snobby blond girl.. whose name I also forgot
have seen him.. when shifting..
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Jan 25 2009, 01:24 PM
It is not just that they could have tried to stop Ethan from killing Locke, but Ethan did not give any consideration to time jumps. If he had been jumping, he eventually would have gone to the future where he would be at least familiar with Locke's name. I don't think he had jumped before even though he was good friends with Richard.

What I'm essentially saying is that the "Others" as they have been titled are different groups of people. There's probably no people left from Dharma (Though we never found out what happened to Ben's little girlfriend from childhood)

However, people like Juliet, who came after the purge, are possibly not the same group of people as Richard, who predates Ben. Richard's time shifting might have been a phenomenon that began long before the Utopian society was built by Ben

Juliet's been on the island 3 years, (So was Des, btw, & he had some shifting too) & Ethan has been there longer, but if he is from a separate group of people than Richard, then perhaps he as well as certain others, including maybe even Ben aren't time shifting nor have they ever been. Ben's time on the island seems pretty linear too, just like Alex's & Rouseau & Mikhail & Kelvin Inman. They are the post-purge society, of which Juliet is probably the last to arrive, which might, I say might explain why she is now shifting with the losties :lol:

This is also another reason I think Richard is from the Black Rock crew, a totally different group

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You missed my point. The survivors who were kidnapped when they first got to the island and the flight attendant have shown up numerous times with the Others.  If the Losties as a group are shifting based on when they came to the island (which allows Juliet and the freighter expedition to shift with them as late additions to the island), then those with the Others should be shifting with the Losties.

Oh, you're talking about Cindy & the kids, & the other abductees. The last we saw them they were preparing to leave the Barracks, around the time Ben told Locke to kill Anthony Cooper. She told Locke that people were staring at him because he's special, & they've been waiting for him

It's possible they are shifting too. I'm not sure
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Didnt they "recruit" alot of people like Juliet?
Dude.. wasnt Richard involved in juliets "recruitment"
I have forgotten so much!

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Didnt they "recruit" alot of people like Juliet?
Dude.. wasnt Richard involved in juliets "recruitment"
I have forgotten so much!

*runs off to visit Lostpedia*

Yes, Richard conducted her interview for the Mittelos Corp.. She told him the only way she'd be able to do it was if her ex-husband got hit by a bus :lol:

He got hit by a bus :lus:
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Been reading up on lostpedia!

I found the Info about "ms hawking" very interesting!

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ms._Hawking
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The actress who plays Data's mom :violet:
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I have to work till 10pm this wed

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I just watched the episode where Locke destroyed the submarine.

Locke and Ben's discussions cracked me up especially with Ben's delivery.

Locke: The Man from Tallahassee, what is that? Some kind of code?
Ben: No, John, unfortunately, we don't have a code for 'there's a man in my closet with a gun to my daughter's head;' although, we obviously should.
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Yeah, Michael Emerson's (Ben) delivery is just pure genius

I loved how he spoke to Jack in the premier

Jack: "They're not my friends anymore"
Ben: "Oh, that's the spirit Jack"

Plus, that scene with him & Hurley was just perfection. Ben trying is damnedest to seem friendly & genuine, & it just failing dismally :lol:
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I watched the first episode of this season on-line today! Interesting! I really should watch ALL of last seasons episodes over on-line to get a better grasp. Love it!
And....the kids!

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Did I miss anything good??
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Yes. How long until everyone else gets to see this?

Odd that the kids name is Charlie.
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durn!

Im gonna have to watch online here ASAP
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yeah I thought it was weird his name was charlie too. Glad the episode was island based as well.

things that stood out for me


charles widmore?

latin?

I see dead people

we have a specific way of choosing our leaders and it starts in childhood.

Come visit me and see


The choosing the leader thing doesn't fit with them being from the ship. Neither does the woman.
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finally saw it!

Nice twist on Charles Widmore! I would never have guessed that he was an ....... er.. belonged to that particular group.

I think its cute that they named their kid charlie.. Im assuming its after
the dead charlie.. and not her father.
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oooh good catch.
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I'm sure the kid was named after dead Charlie, but just the thought that Charles may think the kid was named after him after what he's done to Penelope and Desmond surprises me.

So Richard wasn't always dressed like a pirate and he used to work with the US Army. So the flaming arrows were from the Others, but the Others were in the role of the Dharma Initiative at the time. So many twists.
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I didnt catch that Sexy Richard Alpert worked for the US Army.

I had trouble watching... I couldnt get the sound to sync up with the video.. and it kept cutting out.

It airs again on Saturday night...
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