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LOST SPOILERS; the OFFICIAL thread
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wissaboo	Fri May 30, 2008 11:41 am Post #641
Posts: 25,676 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 16, 2005	maybe he sees who has died since leaving the island as well? I hadn't considered john screwing things up. I figured the bad stuff was a result of moving the island



rab24	Fri May 30, 2008 5:38 pm Post #642
Posts: 5,349 Group: 5000 post Angel Member #7 Joined: November 17, 2005	Maybe Hurley is just seeing figments of his crazy head. It seems safe to say that Jin is dead as well as what- 8 other survivors ferried to the boat. They should have had Penelope's ship scour the area at least once before establishing their cover story. Only option for them surviving would be if Christian carried some of them back to island. The ones ith Faraday probably got moved with the island or else the helicopter would have crashed on them. Speaking of Christian, it seems the voices are a carrier wave. I don't think the Others are the voices, but the voices can probably carry them. As to how old the island moving machine was, remember the energy could have made time change at any rate of speed in that cave. Notice how Ben's jacket was the same he was wearing when he ended up in the desert? Mojo, does that make it a 6 month time jump?
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Mojochi	Fri May 30, 2008 9:54 pm Post #643
........................... Posts: 13,333 Group: Movie Era 10000 post spammer Member #1,478 Joined: November 14, 2007	rab24 May 30 2008, 08:38 PM It seems safe to say that Jin is dead as well as what- 8 other survivors ferried to the boat. They should have had Penelope's ship scour the area at least once before establishing their cover story. Only option for them surviving would be if Christian carried some of them back to island. I'm not so sure. Michael was in the bomb room, so he is certainly dead, but Jin was on the deck, to the rear, waving at the chopper, when it exploded. From the look of the explosion, he might've survived rab24 May 30 2008, 08:38 PM The ones with Faraday probably got moved with the island or else the helicopter would have crashed on them. Possible, but it did seem like only the island got moved. It even left a strange ripple in the ocean for a minute rab24 May 30 2008, 08:38 PM Speaking of Christian, it seems the voices are a carrier wave. I don't think the Others are the voices, but the voices can probably carry them. There is definitely a correlation between the arrival of these mysterious people, & the preceding whispers. It might even be alternate dimension related. rab24 May 30 2008, 08:38 PM As to how old the island moving machine was, remember the energy could have made time change at any rate of speed in that cave. Notice how Ben's jacket was the same he was wearing when he ended up in the desert? Mojo, does that make it a 6 month time jump? Not sure I follow you. Ben appears to be in almost the exact same condition as when we see him move the island, including suffering from the injury he sustained to his right arm, while falling from the ladder into the icy cave. I presume he was removed from the island almost exactly the same time, which I place at December 30th 2004. After he arrives in the desert, he heads to a hotel, wearing the same bandage on his arm, that he got from the Arab he killed. At the hotel, we find out that it is now Oct. 24th 2005. I place that at 10 months, that he traveled into the future wissaboo May 30 2008, 02:41 PM I hadn't considered john screwing things up. I figured the bad stuff was a result of moving the island There may also be the possibility that Sawyer has something to do with things ending up bad. I doubt he's going to fit in with John's new crowd



rab24	Sat May 31, 2008 8:53 am Post #644
Posts: 5,349 Group: 5000 post Angel Member #7 Joined: November 17, 2005	As far as Ben's time jump, that is exactly what I was talking about, I just thought he landed in the summer instead of October. The island has always included a certain amount of water around it with the ship having to stay outside. The ring in the water was from filling in the vacuum which would not have been necessary for the included water. Plus, they were on the same trajectory as the helicopter, so they should have found each other if they weren't taken by the island. Jin and Desmond gave everyone enough time to have jumped ship, but they were in the middle of the ocean. Unless the island whispered them back, Penelope's ship would have been their only hope. If there had been another ship unrelated to the island, then those survivors weren't informed they needed to lie and would have most likely turned up for that big fat settlement. The issue with the voices is that we usually here them when one of the Others (who can still be killed) shows up. This time, it was someone who is already dead and a spokesman for the island. Even with the Others being Black Rock survivors, we've seen that those two groups are not completely the same.
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Mojochi	Sat May 31, 2008 1:39 pm Post #645
........................... Posts: 13,333 Group: Movie Era 10000 post spammer Member #1,478 Joined: November 14, 2007	rab24 May 31 2008, 11:53 AM The island has always included a certain amount of water around it with the ship having to stay outside. The ring in the water was from filling in the vacuum which would not have been necessary for the included water. Plus, they were on the same trajectory as the helicopter, so they should have found each other if they weren't taken by the island. You know I guess it's reasonable to assume that a certain space around the island is subject to the movement of the island too, given that not only did the Hydra station disappear, which was about a couple miles off the main island's coast, but I would assume the Looking Glass station went too & it was an off island station too, beneath the ocean. I'd guess maybe the event could've extended a couple miles off coast, in all directions rab24 May 31 2008, 11:53 AM Jin and Desmond gave everyone enough time to have jumped ship, but they were in the middle of the ocean. Unless the island whispered them back, Penelope's ship would have been their only hope. If there had been another ship unrelated to the island, then those survivors weren't informed they needed to lie and would have most likely turned up for that big fat settlement. I admit it is easily possible that jin is dead, but I'm hoping there is a way he isn't. His bio at Lostpedia still hasn't committed to him being dead. I think there's still reason to have hope http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Jin-Soo_Kwon rab24 May 31 2008, 11:53 AM The issue with the voices is that we usually here them when one of the Others (who can still be killed) shows up. This time, it was someone who is already dead and a spokesman for the island. Even with the Others being Black Rock survivors, we've seen that those two groups are not completely the same. In fact, I'm still wondering what became of Cindy & The 815 children. The last time we saw them, they were with Jack on the Hydra island, preparing to become "Others". Another thing I got to thinking about. I guarantee that we haven't seen the last of Des & Penny. Remember that Ben fully intends on killing Penny, out of revenge, for losing Alex



rab24	Sat May 31, 2008 5:16 pm Post #646
Posts: 5,349 Group: 5000 post Angel Member #7 Joined: November 17, 2005	What was the Hydra station? The other island? Do you have a rough map which shows the Hydra? If it is not in the center of the island, we could assume the big foot's body didn't make the disappearing radius. If Ben had to blow a hole in the Orchid station to get to the island mover, wouldn't that indicate that no one has moved the island since Dharma was kicked off. Has any other show been able to end two seasons less than 6 hours apart?
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VioletCloud	Sat May 31, 2008 5:36 pm Post #647
Water Tribe! Posts: 18,370 Group: Admin Member #1,331 Joined: October 14, 2007	Didnt they imply that both islands were gone... someone pointed out to the Pilot that there was a second island, and he said he didn't see one... Im hoping the Dingy was in the vicinity of "things that moved" I dont want Daniel to die yet.... If Jin got off the boat.. he was to far away to get back to the island before it "disappeared" I was glad that Desmond finally found Penny Is there any chance thats not really "you know who" in the coffin... Im just not feeling it..
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rab24	Sat May 31, 2008 5:55 pm Post #648
Posts: 5,349 Group: 5000 post Angel Member #7 Joined: November 17, 2005	If the island wanted John back, I think it is safe to say you won't have to consider him being dead for long.
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wissaboo	Sat May 31, 2008 6:14 pm Post #649
Posts: 25,676 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 16, 2005	I was thinking. if jin supposedly died in the plane crash how are they going to explain sun't pregnancy?



VioletCloud	Sat May 31, 2008 6:23 pm Post #650
Water Tribe! Posts: 18,370 Group: Admin Member #1,331 Joined: October 14, 2007	Mojochi May 31 2008, 12:39 PM In fact, I'm still wondering what became of Cindy & The 815 children. The last time we saw them, they were with Jack on the Hydra island, preparing to become "Others". Another thing I got to thinking about. I guarantee that we haven't seen the last of Des & Penny. Remember that Ben fully intends on killing Penny, out of revenge, for losing Alex The last time we saw Cindy and the children.... they were called forward to observe Jack in a cage... (season 2 I think) but we never saw why... Unless I missed something...
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wissaboo	Sat May 31, 2008 6:25 pm Post #651
Posts: 25,676 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 16, 2005	what?!?!?! I must have missed that one



rab24	Sat May 31, 2008 6:34 pm Post #652
Posts: 5,349 Group: 5000 post Angel Member #7 Joined: November 17, 2005	wissaboo May 31 2008, 08:14 PM I was thinking. if jin supposedly died in the plane crash how are they going to explain sun't pregnancy? This is where what would have happened and insightful tidbits from the show get confused. After the crash everyone probably would have had a tombstone made with that date. The Oceanic 6 said he was one of the 2 who died on the island, but may not have known the date, so why bother changing the tombstone. Especially if she knew it was a lie anyway. Wissa, I think Cindy was in the episode right after Sawyer and Kate escaped from the second island.
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VioletCloud	Sat May 31, 2008 6:38 pm Post #653
Water Tribe! Posts: 18,370 Group: Admin Member #1,331 Joined: October 14, 2007	rab24 May 31 2008, 05:34 PM Wissa, I think Cindy was in the episode right after Sawyer and Kate escaped from the second island. yeah... it was right around that time.. when they were all kept in those cages and forced to break rocks... did we ever find out why cindy and the children were brought to look at jack?
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Mojochi	Sat May 31, 2008 9:22 pm Post #654
........................... Posts: 13,333 Group: Movie Era 10000 post spammer Member #1,478 Joined: November 14, 2007	rab24 May 31 2008, 09:34 PM The Oceanic 6 said he was one of the 2 who died on the island, Sun told the press that Jin died in the crash rab24 May 31 2008, 08:16 PM What was the Hydra station? The other island? Do you have a rough map which shows the Hydra? If it is not in the center of the island, we could assume the big foot's body didn't make the disappearing radius. This is a non-canon, fan made depiction of the island, based on all the island topography that has been shown, & various maps & such. It's pretty accurate. The island to the right of the main island is The Hydra Station island, I believe. Jack suggested landing there, but it got moved too. Not sure what the upper isle is rab24 May 31 2008, 08:16 PM If Ben had to blow a hole in the Orchid station to get to the island mover, wouldn't that indicate that no one has moved the island since Dharma was kicked off. Yes, & possibly that Dharma built the Orchid there, because of the strange temporal effects there rab24 May 31 2008, 08:16 PM Has any other show been able to end two seasons less than 6 hours apart? Not sure what you mean. Are you talking about how the Flash forward at the end of season 3 & season 4 are both Jack in the funeral home?



rab24	Sat May 31, 2008 9:31 pm Post #655
Posts: 5,349 Group: 5000 post Angel Member #7 Joined: November 17, 2005	Mojochi May 31 2008, 11:22 PM rab24 May 31 2008, 09:34 PM The Oceanic 6 said he was one of the 2 who died on the island, Sun told the press that Jin died in the crash rab24 May 31 2008, 08:16 PM Has any other show been able to end two seasons less than 6 hours apart? Not sure what you mean. Are you talking about how the Flash forward at the end of season 3 & season 4 are both Jack in the funeral home? Arr. Guess she is just hoping to blur the time of impregnation enough. So we still don't know who they decided to list as a survivor who died on the island. Yes
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rab24	Sat May 31, 2008 9:33 pm Post #656
Posts: 5,349 Group: 5000 post Angel Member #7 Joined: November 17, 2005	Mojochi May 31 2008, 11:22 PM rab24 May 31 2008, 08:16 PM What was the Hydra station? The other island? Do you have a rough map which shows the Hydra? If it is not in the center of the island, we could assume the big foot's body didn't make the disappearing radius. This is a non-canon, fan made depiction of the island, based on all the island topography that has been shown, & various maps & such. It's pretty accurate. The island to the right of the main island is The Hydra Station island, I believe. Jack suggested landing there, but it got moved too. Not sure what the upper isle is I meant the Orchid's position on the island. Too many names...
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Mojochi	Sat May 31, 2008 9:37 pm Post #657
........................... Posts: 13,333 Group: Movie Era 10000 post spammer Member #1,478 Joined: November 14, 2007	rab24 Jun 1 2008, 12:31 AM Arr. Guess she is just hoping to blur the time of impregnation enough. So we still don't know who they decided to list as a survivor who died on the island. Yes The identity of the 2 other claimed 815 survivors, who didn't survive to be recued, is still undisclosed, as far as I know I think you are correct. I think Lost is the only show to ever end two different seasons, literally hours apart. I think Jack went from the airport where he spoke with Kate, back to the the funeral home. Season 3 ended at the airport. Season four's ending might even be minutes apart



Mojochi	Sat May 31, 2008 9:40 pm Post #658
........................... Posts: 13,333 Group: Movie Era 10000 post spammer Member #1,478 Joined: November 14, 2007	If you think about it though, the story has now moved to 2007, & season 3 ended at the latest point in the chronology of the show. It only fits that season 4 would end later than that, in order to leave us hanging a bit further out. Of course who could've guess it would only be minutes later



rab24	Sat May 31, 2008 9:41 pm Post #659
Posts: 5,349 Group: 5000 post Angel Member #7 Joined: November 17, 2005	Didn't Kate's trial reference the marshal as one of the survivors?
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wissaboo	Sat May 31, 2008 9:42 pm Post #660
Posts: 25,676 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 16, 2005	I'm pretty sure jack mentioned charlie and boon as the ones who survived the plane crash but not the island at the press converence.



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