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Well, I am just having a banner day...; Was I too harsh with Darren?
Topic Started: Thu Jun 1, 2006 5:33 pm (263 Views)
DamarLives
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Since the whole Samus thing last night, Darren has felt the need to totally butt in. I know that my nerves are frayed because I haven't had a day off in forever, but now I am just getting to the point that I just don't care.

I know Darren has problems, and part f me feels bad for saying what I said in #3 of my reply, but it is true.

I would also like to single out Admiral, as I know that we don't post that much together, and everyone else here knows what I think of them, but I just wanted to say that you post some of the best-thought out and comprehensive responses to any debates there. Everyone else does too, but I don't think I ever singled him out for his thoughts.

And Jadzia, you were great today too! I love it when you get angry....

Well, not really, but I hope you know what I mean.

Strange, if you just change two letters in my name, it is DramaLives. Apparantly, I have caused a lot of it, but never meant to. Think I will just chill out from ST for awhile.

Anyway, here is the VERY long pm from Darren and my response.


GalaxyClassUSSEnterpriseNCC1701D
June 01 2006, 7:15 pm
I understand being stressed and stuff so when you have time reply to this

first off normally I think you're a great guy and a good poster, and hopefully nothing I say or have said will offend you enough to cause a rift between us


now, when I saw your post admitting that you set a trap for Samus to "teach him a lesson" and make him "feel" like the people you thought were SO hurt by not being named as a post of the year candidate

I was so angry if you were in the same room I seriously would have punched you in the face

I think you need to SEE your actions and what you've done,
Samus TRUSTED you, and SAW you as a FRIEND,
you then USED that Trust to stab him in the back to teach him your self rightous lesson,
that's totally wrong, you DO NOT do that to someone who is a "friend" and who has done nothing wrong

the people who felt "hurt" by not being nominated probably were sad for about 10 seconds and then just went on their marry way, just like the people did last year when we had SEVERAL popularity contest threads
Hell I wasn't nominated by ONE person, and before the Nexcal #### I was considered to be the nicest person on the boards and was one of the most popular and most respected, did you see ME having a tizzy fit and teaching people lessons?

you really need to realize what you did, If you were ever made fun of and ganged up on by people in highschool or JrHigh then you might be able to realize the way you made Samus feel
NO ONE felt that bad but Samus, in his mind you've used him and his trust, made him a fool for trusting you, and then you stabbed him in the back, ridiculed him before his peers, and then after your little posse came in and made him feel like #### you proudly announced it was all a trap to make him feel like ####

I just cant believe that, it just disgusts me that someone could purposefully hurt someone so deeply and then PROUDLY proclaim that it was their intention to hurt that person

I wouldn't be surprised if you made Samus feel like crying, I've been there, I have had everyone turn on me, I've had people gang up on me in arguments and then howl with cheers and laughter when I leave the room before I break down
(granted this all happened 10+ years ago, oh what fond memories you've made surface for me, thanks)
what you did to him was horrible, and then to not even really apologize and constantly say that you're justified it just insane,
you're NOT justified ONE BIT, YOU PURPOSED to hurt Samus,
Samus didn't intend to hurt one person
and if Wissaboo and Moondance still can't get over the stupid MVP thing that's THEIR problem (by the way, contrary to what they tell you, the MVP thing was NOT that bad at all, Scooby just whined and whined until everyone was so tired of her whining they gave up and cancelled the contest, no one got 'hurt' or 'left out' in that)

There have been contests that I pointed out that probably DID hurt people, like the huge 10+ round Queen of the boards threads in 10F last fall, now THOSE people left out probably felt like #### because out of around 100 people to be left out from that would definatly make you feel horrible since so many people are included but you

there have been "who's your favorite poster" threads, and "who are the posters you think are the best" or "who are the best people here" threads, in those threads people would list people, and if a friend wasn't on that list well dang, that would sure mean that "friend" probably doesn't like you ?that much

people always ignored them if they didn't like them, and no one ever got "hurt" and if they did they were big adults about it and just moved on and never told anyone

exactly what you claimed to be fighting against you yourself are guilty of by what you did to Samus

perhaps you should REread my two posts in the avatar thread

you may have a big postcount, and people may like you and blindly follow you, but you are STILL a newb and haven't been here long enough nor do you have a grasp on enough history of this place to be able to pull #### like you did

you took it PERSONAL that Samus didn't listen to you, and so you MADE it PERSONAL by trapping Samus like that

you COULD have just started YOUR OWN thread and talked about how peer pressure and popularity were wrong and a curse on socity, but no
He had your Avatar, and he wasn't listening to you, so Boo Hoo you decided to teach him a lesson

hopefully no one tries to teach you a lesson like that, you wont like it, and all you'll learn is what Samus learned, which is to be careful who you trust and think a friend, because they can turn on you faster then a diamondback rattle snake for not reason at all



stop telling him you're sorry unless you're actually going to stop justifying a gross misues of power and popularity that you have






I'm sorry I'm coming off so hardlined, but this has angered me quite a bit, I do not stand by when something like this is done to someone who didn't deserve it


hopefully you will read this all and keep an open mind, I realize that when I'm angry I can say inflamitory things, and that will cause someone to take offense instead of actually reflecting on what I have written
so maybe you should read this a few times before replying

I'm just trying to be a true friend, a true friend will try and point out a mistake to someone they care about even at the risk of being black listed


hopefully you can get less stressed soon Jason, hopefully we can work this out and not have an issue between us

Darren



I appreciate the well thought out and long pm. My function at work awas cancelled tonight so I am back.

However, the definition of FRIEND by Samus is a bit strange. I never even knew who he was unitl last couple of weeks. I would never have done that to people I do consider friends here.

2. Calling somone a Newb, is just your way of trying to insult me. I have been around LONG enough to know many things.

3. The fact that someone who helped DESTROY an entire other message board in order to hurt others makes your opinions of me and what I did far less valid.

You complain constantly that CT is not popular anymore. You complain that your freinds don't come around anymore. Instead of spending so much time judging me, you should look at yourself and your actions.

I am tired of this ####. I am sorry that you have stuff happening in your own life and I wish only well on you, but you are one hell of a person to pass judgement on anther for being "mean".

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I got a rather long pm from Darren myself explaining his position in a much kinder way. I spoke to Samus at length too. I told both of them essentially to just let it go. I doubt they will listen to me but I had to try.

I don't like to hear anyone say that they are leaving or that they will stay away. People are going to disagree, thats life. Don't let this crap keep you away Jason. If anything keeps you away, let it be me. ;)
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Heather123477
Jun 1 2006, 07:48 PM
I got a rather long pm from Darren myself explaining his position in a much kinder way. I spoke to Samus at length too. I told both of them essentially to just let it go. I doubt they will listen to me but I had to try.

I don't like to hear anyone say that they are leaving or that they will stay away. People are going to disagree, thats life. Don't let this crap keep you away Jason. If anything keeps you away, let it be me. ;)

I think this is just a lot of what Moonpie went through, by voicing her opinion of things. I will never leave ST all together, but think my time and energy is better spent here and at Nexus.
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DamarLives
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Hmmm, page 2. I am just trying to defend myself without hurting him. I don't think I did a very good job.

And if any of you are tired of this, please let me know and I will never post this crap again.


GalaxyClassUSSEnterpriseNCC1701D
June 01 2006, 8:44 pm
Perhaps you don't know the whole Nexus story
after I do most the work, invite hundreds of people, and then do my JOB, I get tossed to the curb and not even told I was being demoted

JOEL destroyed that board, I just saw it happening and decided to cut my losses and make sure that he didn't end up being jumped on by everyone for trying to avenge the way I was treated, so I never disclosed exactly what he did, and I kept letting certain parts stay my fault

all I did was remove pictures I uploaded, and made sure the ban settings were correct
oh man, I'm so evil huh? I tried to buffer the hate dirrected at McClain because he didn't have to destroy the board, and I felt that he was only doing it because of me and I don't like people to end up losing stuff because of me

I never hurt one ####ing person on NExus or anywhere else I dare you find one person that I intentionally hurt the entire time I've been a member of ST.COM or NExus or Excal,

and I've apologized MANY times to the people who were members of Nexus and as a result got burned, I've even PMed them about it when it happened, I've also apologized to Kai and Rajiin, and Tiberius, and I've constantly said that there was a better way then to let the site get tanked

and I've never apologized with a justification

so don't try and pull that BS man, I've already repaired the damage done on my side of the fence

Stop talking about things you do not know about Jason


that is strange, you have changed your story from the night you were feeling so downed and said what you did.

I don't want to argue with you anymore Darren. I know that you have a lot of crap going on in your real life, and I would never want to add to it. I truly and only wish happiness for you. You attacked me and I attacked back. I am sory that this has divided us, but I am not going to back down from what I said.

I never meant to upset you and I hope that you are ok, there are so many more things far more important than this. As I said last night, during all this, I walked into the bedroom, saw my son sleeping peacefully and that is all that matters to me.

Take care, and I hope you well.

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There is a reason they are the only two "old timers" there. They are irritating whiners. I've been at st.com a long time but was never "in" that group at 10f. I exchanged a lot of pm's with samus today as well. I pointed out that I was only disagreeing with him, that I had every right to express my opinion, and had no intentions of accepting his apology if it meant that I couldn't stand up for you or disagree with anything he said. I also pointed out that this went back to the thread he started saying that the GGW thread was immoral and that he had a problem with you since he got back. He shut up pretty quickly.

Don't worry about either of them Damar. They both take offence at the smallest thing. So when someone does actually insult them they go ballistic.


And that newb stuff is just crap. What does any of that have to do with you? How many times did you and other people ask to be removed from that stupid contest.


And apparantly you and I have the same sort of friendship with him because I was never aware of it either.
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DamarLives
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For Wissa: :lips:

Anyway, Darren has calmed down and apologized and I did, sort of, as well.

As I told him, all I care about is upsetting my true friends here. I f I ever do that I want to know. At one point I upset the wonderful and delicious Moonpie without even knowing it, and her friendship means a great deal to me.

Samus, I do not know, do not care. Darren, I feel sorry for almost in a Will kind of way. He constantly talks about his post count and how Coffee talk used to be the most popular thread. Obviously, those things mean a great deal to him, and I feel bad for using what I know just to piss him off.
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I feel sorry for him too. But him whining will not make him more popular.


samus is just a weenie. :P


:wissa/archer: for you
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Hmm, I can't see what we are doing behind those big yellow hands!!

I told Wissa at ST, but I do truly love all the wonderful friendships here. My life (like so many of all of ours) is so srtessful right now, but I never feel the stress here and enjoy the relaxful and peaceful feeling here.

Thanks to all of you for everything....


(all right, sometimes I feel stressed when I see Nhranger's avatar and wonder about my own manhood, but that is about it!)
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We love having you here sweetie. And we are all confident in your manhood.


I think the underwear in that pic is the equivilant of a pushup bra. Pushes everything up and out so it can't be missed.
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YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I KNOW WRONG THREAD BUT CANES SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3-2 now in the third!!!!!!!!!
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TOS Girl: All the Way!

I suspect Edmonton may be their biggest challenge to date. Hardcore Canadian grit!

Oh, and when you see the noise generated in the Oiler's home
rink! Well, um...welcome to Oil Country ;)

Lookout Damar! :evillaugh:

Morgan :wub:

PS... Congrats on winning the Prince of Wales trophy, Carolina. :thumbsup:
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Awwww man does this mean ill be getting more PM's from both Darren and Samus -_-' .

I think im going to have to step back from the Samus argument becasue, i get along with Samus as well as Darren and the last thing i want to do is be caught in a rift between the folk here and over there.

I allready got a bollocking from Samus and Odogoo for not standing up for them and has taken me about 10 PM's to sort it out.
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Jadzia20
Jun 2 2006, 01:28 AM
Awwww man does this mean ill be getting more PM's from both Darren and Samus -_-' .

I think im going to have to step back from the Samus argument becasue, i get along with Samus as well as Darren and the last thing i want to do is be caught in a rift between the folk here and over there.

I allready got a bollocking from Samus and Odogoo for not standing up for them and has taken me about 10 PM's to sort it out.

hon you never have to get in the middle of a fight you don't want to. You will never have to choose between us and one of you friends. :hugs:
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When I crack that whip, everybody goin' to trip like circus
Thanks Wiss
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