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| Proposed 'Telepathic-able' Pokemon | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 5 2007, 06:12 PM (737 Views) | |
| Stephan Reiken | Jan 5 2007, 06:12 PM Post #1 |
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Able (Legendaries not included) Abra Family Mr. Mime Ralts Family Xatu SlowKing Teachable (With Psychic Type. Perhaps more to add, Gengar?) Spoink Family Chimecho Baltoy Family Jynx Lunatone Solrock Metang/Metagross Unable with Psychic Type Slowpoke/Slowbro Starmie Beldum Girafarig Smoochum Exeggcute Family Natu Wobbuffet Mime Jr. Meditite Family |
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| Deleted User | Jan 5 2007, 06:15 PM Post #2 |
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Your choices seem kind of arbitrary. |
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| Stephan Reiken | Jan 5 2007, 06:33 PM Post #3 |
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Welcome to any changes to be recommended, or asking why I did one and not another. Based on my experience with the Anime and the workings of my mind. |
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| Deleted User | Jan 5 2007, 06:56 PM Post #4 |
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Really I don't see why any psychic type shouldn't be able to learn telepathy at least with some training. |
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| Stephan Reiken | Jan 5 2007, 07:10 PM Post #5 |
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It is rather simple in that simple things are complicated.. Either the Pokemon is not developed enough in the talent, or mature enough to use the ability, or they do not have the capability. Think of it this way, there is a series of books I read know as 'The Adventures of Pip and Flinx'. Flinx is a genetically altered human who has Empathic abilities. He can read and project Feelings. He can also (Not controlable) kill nearby living things. He is not capable of Telepathy (Guesswork by feelings at the most) nor is he cabable of moving things with his mind. Other's like him have different abilities, Pyrokinesis, for example. Creating flames with the mind. They do not have Telepathy either. But, there is a race of huge furry creatures that have Telepathy, and Empathy and other talents. They are born with the ability. The thing is, the areas of Psychic powers varies, some just are not capable of Telepathy. |
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| Deleted User | Jan 5 2007, 07:28 PM Post #6 |
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Yeah, but there's no real criteria to judge which pokemon can or can't. |
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| Jeanesse | Jan 5 2007, 07:30 PM Post #7 |
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The thing is, if all pokemon are able to understand human speech (or at least get the gist) as is evidenced by their understanding responses in battle, then any psychic pokemon with the ability to manipulate things with their minds must be said to be trainable. I understand John's point of view completely - although the slowpoke line is too close to his heart to be objective about. For instance, Slowking is bitten by a shellder on the head, and becomes smart enough to speak, whild Slowbro remains dim-witted. Along with this list, we must also ponder a list of pokemon capable of physical speech and communication - even if Jynx can't learn telepathy, she would certainly be on the top of the list to learn sign language or even physical speech. Other unexpected pokemon are capable of odd abilities - Meowth talking is a prime example. If a pokemon with a MOUTH so unfit for speech as a feline pokemon can master it, then surely a pokemon with a MIND usually unfit for telepathy must be considered with effort and training and time between it and the goal of acheiving some form of telepathy. Also, remember what Rachel said - telepathy would not always be clearly broadcast words. Girafarig might not be capable of deep conversations and lucid telepathy, but would certainly be able to impress thoughts, ideas, emotions and express itself on the most BASE level. At least. |
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| Stephan Reiken | Jan 5 2007, 07:31 PM Post #8 |
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Nothing but the show. Example... Spoink and Grumpig have been seen, but Telepathy was not used. I think they should be able to gain it, so I stuck them where they are. Slowking has Telepathy in the movie. Slowpoke and Slowbro also have been, and it makes some sense that they cannot, they are too slow. Chimecho, Arbitrary choice, is in the show but does not show telepathy, but I think it should because it just feels right. EDIT Jeanesse has a point, and perhaps I should change it to... Auto Easy to learn Difficult Neigh Impossible Impossible (Non-Psychics that canoot use Psychic Moves besides Agility) |
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| Deleted User | Jan 5 2007, 07:34 PM Post #9 |
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In the show you can also KO ground types with a single thunderbolt. ~_^ |
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| Stephan Reiken | Jan 5 2007, 07:37 PM Post #10 |
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True, the Show is not to be completely trusted. But, if the Ground Pokemon was not in contact with the ground, then I don't see any reason why an electric attack would be negated. |
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| Deleted User | Jan 5 2007, 07:42 PM Post #11 |
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Because a ground pokemon is practically made of ground in the same way an Onix is made of stone or muk is poison sludge? |
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| Stephan Reiken | Jan 5 2007, 08:08 PM Post #12 |
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This isn't the place to argue it right now. Back to the subject. Since Telepathy is in the RP, it needs rules. Written rules. Like Ghost powers should also be written somewhere. Perhaps a thread of Pokemon Types with Talents. Water - Breath underwater. Fire - Walk through fire, some can do lava. Ghost - Invisible, and what they can do then Psychic - Telepathy, and which can and cannot yada yada |
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| Deleted User | Jan 5 2007, 11:05 PM Post #13 |
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My own Natu was shown to have telepathic powers, enough to transmit another Pokemon's thoughts into my character's head into a language my character could understand. This can change based upon different refs and such but it has been drilled in that he can and will use such a power. I think their staring "abilities" allow them to do so. Now, for Water types who can breathe underwater, that's a problem. Just because it is a certain type does not grant it an ability to do things that some of its type can do. Just because a Doduo is part Flying does not mean it can fly naturally. Nor can a Natu for that matter. I don't even think Sableye, a Ghost hybrid, can become invisible actually, just thin enough to pass through cracks. I don't even believe Shedinja can turn invisible as it can't move at all and is just a living shell. The thing is, this list is more of a way you feel things should be, not what has actually been proven canon-wise. All in all, it is up for the refs to decide if basic biology or the PokeDex does not address such a thing. |
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| Stephan Reiken | Jan 6 2007, 09:57 AM Post #14 |
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Sableye has turned invisible, his sprite on the game turns glimmers in as an entrance. Just because the Pokemon has two types does not mean it is half of the ghost. Otherwise, it would gain half of the weakness eh? In the case of Water Pokemon, they can, or they would not be water. Flying, I didn't list off all flying types as Flying. |
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| Deleted User | Jan 6 2007, 10:53 AM Post #15 |
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Um, no. Not every Water type breathes underwater. The Squirtle line? They're based off of turtles which need to breathe air. The Totodile line as well cannot breathe underwater as they are based off of crocodiles. Just because they are Water-types does not mean all aquatic creatures can breathe underwater. They live near or in water and control the element of water is the only reason they are considered Water-types. Biology wise, Sableye does not turn invisible. It can shrink or flatten itself to where it looks invisible and become slightly transparent. And I have no idea what you meant by the weakness part as it's Dark-type is resistant to what it's Ghost half is weak against and vice versa. The Flying thing was in response to show that just because a Pokemon cannot fly does not mean it is not part of the Flying-type. |
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