Found the wheels of my dreams

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Found the wheels of my dreams - Will they fit?
Topic Started: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:52 am (377 Views)
cmnyen	Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:52 am Post #1
'86 190E 2,3-16 Posts: 29 Group: Members Member #4,750 Joined: October 14, 2009	Hi! I've found some perfect wheels for my 190E. They are 8x17 ET40 front and 9x17 ET45 rear. Will this fit on my 16v? He was not 100% sure about the ET, but will check that. Any input?



Richy190E	Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:09 am Post #2
Sales Rep Posts: 1,822 Group: Members Member #1,387 Joined: June 9, 2007	You may need 5mm spacers on the front and 10mm on the rear



sportline_stu	Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:55 am Post #3
Member Posts: 1,004 Group: Members Member #2,447 Joined: March 23, 2008	I think Rich is probably spot on with his advice. Them are some big wheels! I assume the centre bore is correct? Have you thought about the correct tyre sizes yet as this will also factor in on rubbing issues. Don't forget the issue of longer bolts being required to compensate for the spacers. Personally I would not like to fit more than 10mm of spacers from a safety point of view. Are you able to try fitting before you buy? Stu EDIT - Any pictures of the 'perfect' wheels? Edited by sportline_stu, Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:55 am.



cmnyen	Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:10 pm Post #4
'86 190E 2,3-16 Posts: 29 Group: Members Member #4,750 Joined: October 14, 2009	Thanks! Spacers and longer bolts are no problem if 9x17 if possible to fit. I have not thought about tire sizes yet, but the fronts are no problem I guess. Any suggestions for the rear? I'll post pics tomorrow



kentronix	Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:37 pm Post #5
Admin Posts: 16,342 Group: Admin Member #147 Joined: January 20, 2006	You may get away with those offsets, worth checking before you buy the spacers, just in case. Its quite close.



cmnyen	Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:31 am Post #6
'86 190E 2,3-16 Posts: 29 Group: Members Member #4,750 Joined: October 14, 2009	Ok. I'll try them on before I buy spacers then. Here is a picture of the wheels:



Richy190E	Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:57 am Post #7
Sales Rep Posts: 1,822 Group: Members Member #1,387 Joined: June 9, 2007	Very nice



kentronix	Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:05 am Post #8
Admin Posts: 16,342 Group: Admin Member #147 Joined: January 20, 2006	yum, very nice indeed !! I think they may have made an appearance or two in my dreams too



big al merc	Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:13 am Post #9
Member Posts: 4,475 Group: Members Member #10 Joined: November 6, 2005	very nice



Jack Beckers	Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:23 pm Post #10
Member Posts: 92 Group: Members Member #36 Joined: November 11, 2005	Looking very nice, are these the Compomotive TH1780, or are these oz's?



cmnyen	Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:05 pm Post #11
'86 190E 2,3-16 Posts: 29 Group: Members Member #4,750 Joined: October 14, 2009	They are Bridgestone DTM. The offset is 46 front (on 8x17) and 42 rear (on 9x17). Will it still fit?



Jack Beckers	Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:23 pm Post #12
Member Posts: 92 Group: Members Member #36 Joined: November 11, 2005	Never knew bridgestone made wheels also, do they still make them? You could see with a calculator if it will fit: http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp I think the biggest problem would be the inner clearance, you can solve that with spacers?



cmnyen	Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:37 pm Post #13
'86 190E 2,3-16 Posts: 29 Group: Members Member #4,750 Joined: October 14, 2009	They are quite rare from what I've found out, and there is very little information to find about them... But the Bridgestone logo is clearly "stamped" into the back of the wheels. As far as I know they do not make them anymore.. Thanks for the link!



Will	Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:13 pm Post #14
Member Posts: 2,077 Group: Members Member #458 Joined: August 15, 2006	9s are very very wide for a 190. You might have to run pretty narrow tyres over a rim like that I would think, if the wheels physically fit. In short - if these really are the wheels of your dreams then I guess you can probably make them fit with enough time/money/work etc. But I think that if there's other similar wheels available in a slightly narrower fitment you might be better with those. Will



kentronix	Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:47 pm Post #15
Admin Posts: 16,342 Group: Admin Member #147 Joined: January 20, 2006	ahhh, I didnt spot the rears were 9s. Yes that may be more difficult.



cmnyen	Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:01 pm Post #16
'86 190E 2,3-16 Posts: 29 Group: Members Member #4,750 Joined: October 14, 2009	Hmmm... I'm a little unsure now. The rims would look really great on the car and I absolutely love them! But it would really suck to use that much money on a set of rims if they don't fit... I really have to do some thinking! What do you guys think if I run 235-tires rear?



kentronix	Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:06 pm Post #17
Admin Posts: 16,342 Group: Admin Member #147 Joined: January 20, 2006	235 is pushing it, I think merc190uk did for a bit but I seem to remember he had rubbing. I had 225s on without significant rubbing. I think with a 9j wheel you would need to taper in at the edge, perhaps 215.



maggot	Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:07 pm Post #18
Member Posts: 465 Group: Members Member #609 Joined: October 21, 2006	Jack Beckers Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:23 pm Never knew bridgestone made wheels also, do they still make them? You could see with a calculator if it will fit: http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp I think the biggest problem would be the inner clearance, you can solve that with spacers? May not be of any use but I find this calculator gives quite a lot more info.......... http://www.bigcustomwheels.com/rt_specs.jsp



Jack Beckers	Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:59 pm Post #19
Member Posts: 92 Group: Members Member #36 Joined: November 11, 2005	cmnyen Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:01 pm Hmmm... I'm a little unsure now. The rims would look really great on the car and I absolutely love them! But it would really suck to use that much money on a set of rims if they don't fit... I really have to do some thinking! What do you guys think if I run 235-tires rear? Otherwise go for a set of compomotive TH1780, they are 17 inch and 8j, you can choose ET from 15-40. http://www.comp.co.uk/wheels/wheels.asp?range=TH_0061 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250275605626&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:GB:1123 They look almost the same.



cmnyen	Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:52 pm Post #20
'86 190E 2,3-16 Posts: 29 Group: Members Member #4,750 Joined: October 14, 2009	Hmmm. I'll check if there is any chance to try them before I buy them, but I'm afraid it won't be possible since he lives on the other side of the country... I'll check if anyone has some wheels in 9x17 for another car or something just so I can try it on the 190. I won't give up if there is a chance! The Compomotive might be a good second choice though. Thanks for the tip, Jack!



cmnyen	Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:53 pm Post #21
'86 190E 2,3-16 Posts: 29 Group: Members Member #4,750 Joined: October 14, 2009	maggot Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:07 pm Jack Beckers Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:23 pm Never knew bridgestone made wheels also, do they still make them? You could see with a calculator if it will fit: http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp I think the biggest problem would be the inner clearance, you can solve that with spacers? May not be of any use but I find this calculator gives quite a lot more info.......... http://www.bigcustomwheels.com/rt_specs.jsp Thanks for this one too!



modizzle	Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:30 pm Post #22
Newbie Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #4,592 Joined: September 3, 2009	stretch some 215s on the rears and have done theyll fit under the arches then, ive fitted some wide wheels to some small cars in my time (used to be massively into vws) bridgestone make wheels had some on my old evo they are normally japanese market though



cmnyen	Mon Nov 2, 2009 8:11 pm Post #23
'86 190E 2,3-16 Posts: 29 Group: Members Member #4,750 Joined: October 14, 2009	Well, I did some testing yesterday with the wheels from my Honda. Just testfitted it with some special bolts. I don't know what they are called in English... The wheels are 9x17 ET45, so 3mm different from the ones I'm considering to buy. The tires that are on the testwheels at the moment are Dunlop 245/40-17. To my surprise, it actually went well! It was really close on the inside, but it actually didn't touch from what I could feel. I will try to do some more testing with the car on a lift in not too far future if I get the chance. But with the offset 3mm lower than the ones I test fitted, and maybe a 235 tire, I see no problem fitting 9x17 rear at the moment Took some pics, but they didn't get so good as it was getting dark when I tested it...



nathantheengineer	Mon Nov 2, 2009 8:42 pm Post #24
Member Posts: 89 Group: Members Member #2,051 Joined: December 21, 2007	If you are worried about the tyre rubbing then stretch a 185 on there, nothing to worry about, if you want any help then may i suggest you pay a visit to the forum at wheel whores We are a friendly bunch and all questions will be answered. Regards nathan Edited by nathantheengineer, Mon Nov 2, 2009 8:43 pm.



NEIL	Tue Nov 3, 2009 7:06 am Post #25
Fewer Posts than Kenny Posts: 16,148 Group: Members Member #63 Joined: November 18, 2005	nathantheengineer Mon Nov 2, 2009 8:42 pm If you are worried about the tyre rubbing then stretch a 185 on there, nothing to worry about I seriously hope you were joking, Nathan! 185 tread on a 9" rim = cmnyen, you might have to go to a 225 or 215 treadwidth, but the offset and 40-profile looks good



cmnyen	Tue Nov 3, 2009 1:59 pm Post #26
'86 190E 2,3-16 Posts: 29 Group: Members Member #4,750 Joined: October 14, 2009	From what I could see on sunday, it should be fine with a 235 actually. I'll check a little bit closer, but I think and hope it will fit. I would like to have as little strech as possible..



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