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| Topic Started: Wed Oct 7, 2009 7:52 am (104 Views) | |
| EddieJT | Wed Oct 7, 2009 7:52 am Post #1 |
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Having experience mainly of Vauxhall, Ford and Peugeot, I am very impressed with the simplicity and user friendliness of the Merc. I spent half an hour trying to find my oil filter remover, only to find that of course I didn't need it. I soon realised that what I thought was the oil filter was actually the fuel filter canister lol, and then discovered the actual oil filter. 2 x 13mm easily accessible bolts, and a handy handle later it was changed without even having to bend down. Sump and Diff plugs were a doddle, though getting the diff oil back in was a bit of a struggle. Incidentally, what is the oil capacity for the diff, as I probably got about 0.8-0.9Ltr in before it became impossible to squeeze anymore out of the bottle into the diff. And refilling the engine oil was a pleasure too. The filler hole design even allows for a bit of carelessness with the pouring , by catching it, instead of it dripping down the head and block. I took the fuel filter canister off for practise when I come to do it at the roadside lol. I drained a bit of fuel out of the canister when I removed it, and then the car took a while to refill the canister before it would start. Is there a way to prime the fuel system to recover from changing filters i.e. a priming bulb? Took air filter housing off and found the prefilter; I may move this above the air filter for easier access. Very impressed with the Merc, and can see why the old ones are considered in such high regard. |
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| jeremy | Wed Oct 7, 2009 7:57 am Post #2 |
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You hit the nail on the head mate , these are very friendly cars to work on . I saw the position of a Clio oil filter at the weekend , it is tucked up behind a chassis leg with no turn room at all , took half an hour to take it off as it had been over tightened . You'd think that they would get things like this right wouldn't you , I mean Renault have been making cars since the dawn of time . Jeremy |
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| shrekky | Wed Oct 7, 2009 9:42 am Post #3 |
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no these cars have a self-priming system...............................if its taking its time to prime the system,could be a sign of a weak fuel pump.  as for the pre-filter,i removed mine as it was a cause of me breaking down twice when i was running on veggy oil |
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| nezamr | Wed Oct 7, 2009 9:54 am Post #4 |
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you have to use mesh type inline filters and not the paper type! Some motor factors will sell you the paper type and they will simply not be capable of letting the thicker veggie oil through. It happened to me once and i had to drive home at 20mph as thats all the fuel that would get through it!! Since then i've been using merc filters which are only about £1.50 each. |
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| EddieJT | Wed Oct 7, 2009 11:21 am Post #5 |
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When does the pump prime itself? When you are cranking the engine over I take it? In which case it did it's job, just needed a few secs to pull the fuel through while cranking before it would start. |
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| EddieJT | Wed Oct 7, 2009 11:28 am Post #6 |
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Yes, I made sure of this. That's a good price for the merc filters. In my 306 if the filter blocks then the symptons are loss of power (obviously), and visible air bubbles in the clear hose from the filter to the IP. This is because it starts sucking in air from around the filter housing joins rather than sucking fuel through. This is in an insert type filter which, more like the Merc canister than the inline filter. Is it obvious from looking at the inline filter when it is blocked/blocking? Do it cause air ingress downstream that would be seen by clear hose? |
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| nezamr | Wed Oct 7, 2009 11:56 am Post #7 |
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you wont be able to see if it is blocked if you are running on wvo as the oil is quite dark! Maybe on the large filters kenny's got you might be able to see it blocking? |
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