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| Topic Started: Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:38 pm (144 Views) | |
| Richy190E | Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:38 pm Post #1 |
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I've been thinking of a brake upgrade for a while and wondred if anyone has used wilwood before? Thoughts and experiences please. Cheers, Richy. |
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| alogaparaloga | Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:26 pm Post #2 |
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I use it on the fisher fury race car. The good thing is that they are lightweight. Braking force is good, but bleeding them is a nightmare. tiny nipples ( 2 per caliper) But consider the cost of pads that you will need. and what materials are available and suitable for you before going to such an expensive modification. |
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| Richy190E | Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:30 pm Post #3 |
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ah, so a larger OEM setup may be better? and also better for road. |
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| JM Motorsport | Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:31 pm Post #4 |
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Good thing is that there are probably a wide range of compunds available, as opposed to the popular Brembo alloy E500 brake upgrade. Willwood are still pretty cheap, especially compared to AP, Brembo, Mov-it etc. But still way better then all these Chinese made callipers that have appeared on the market in recent years. You probably already know this, but you will most certainly have to fabricate some sort of adapters If you have no intentions for anything else then road use, stick with something from the Mercedes range. Some "race callipers" like Willdwood lack dust seals and are not recommended for daily use. Edited by JM Motorsport, Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:33 pm.
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| Richy190E | Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:32 pm Post #5 |
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How much roughly are we talking per caliper? and which ones will fit? |
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| jeremy | Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:49 pm Post #6 |
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IIRC Zoomers turbo has Willwood brakes ? Jeremy |
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| JM Motorsport | Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:12 pm Post #7 |
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Willwood superlite are around £150 here in Sweden |
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| Uk Merc Man | Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:30 pm Post #8 |
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 my old set up - certainly improved when it was warm. pads were around £70 a set, disks were about £250 a pair - vastly superior to the stock set up. had a few bleed nipple issues myself, they are very small! |
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| Richy190E | Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:35 pm Post #9 |
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OMG Stunning! did you use adaptor plates for mounting the calipers? also do you know the dimensions for the disks etc. What setup were you using on the back? |
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| JM Motorsport | Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:36 pm Post #10 |
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Are those willdwood disks? Where did get the mounting bells from? |
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| Uk Merc Man | Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:17 pm Post #11 |
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the disks are ultralites - 2 piece. calipers used a mouting bracket that fixed to the orignal and gave new mounting points for the calipers. at the rear i uses blackstuff disks and pads.... |
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| pentoman | Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:51 pm Post #12 |
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What about the feel Steve- improved or same? I find the 16v brakes a bit short on sharpness and feel (even after I had brand new Mercedes discs and pads all round, plus a fluid change) - they work okay but aren't superb and the pedal moves a bit more than I'd like under harder braking. If you drive other cars they seem to lack initial bite quite badly. |
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| alogaparaloga | Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:07 pm Post #13 |
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I have the same feel on cosworth brakes, but my system has the 1.8 master cylinder. I believe that bite may come if the master cylinder is changed with a bigger one (bigger than cosworth or EVO), but it will probably need more force on the pedal. Another thought I had about gaining some bite on front brakes was to sleeve the front calipers' pins to reduce flexibility between carrier and caliper body. |
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| cossie connoisseur | Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:17 pm Post #14 |
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3 mistakes mb made with the 16v 1- ke jetronic system 2- dulling down power of the engine 3- single pot brakes WTF were they thinking? |
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| JM Motorsport | Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:13 pm Post #15 |
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do you have link to the rotors? Are the bells custom made or could Willwood actually suppy for the merc? |
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