brake upgrade

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brake upgrade; on 1.8
Topic Started: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:47 pm (432 Views)
mwatkins	Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:47 pm Post #1
Newbie Posts: 5 Group: Members Member #4,525 Joined: August 18, 2009	hi, have 1.8 what is the biggest brakes i can just bolt on from other models, no mods needed mark



Martrider	Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:41 pm Post #2
Longest build time in history? Posts: 1,533 Group: Members Member #2 Joined: November 2, 2005	I would say that the best possible upgrade for that would 2.6ltr Calipers, EBC TGD Discs and Green Stuff pads. Red's don't work so well, and it's a brilliant setup. You won't be found wanting.



mdavison	Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:02 pm Post #3
Undergraduate Student (BSc Mech Eng & Manufacturing) Posts: 195 Group: Members Member #3,534 Joined: November 23, 2008	I'm not so sure on the Greenstuff pads. In my opinion, go for some Ferodos.



Rich27	Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:05 pm Post #4
If it has tits or an engine it will be trouble Posts: 13,267 Group: Members Member #348 Joined: June 15, 2006	mdavison Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:02 pm I'm not so sure on the Greenstuff pads. I think Mr Trackday "Jeremy" may disagree



mdavison	Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:24 pm Post #5
Undergraduate Student (BSc Mech Eng & Manufacturing) Posts: 195 Group: Members Member #3,534 Joined: November 23, 2008	He might do, but in my experience they have much better initial bite than normal pads, but fade pretty quickly. Maybe Jeremy is just a slow driver?



mwatkins	Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:44 pm Post #6
Newbie Posts: 5 Group: Members Member #4,525 Joined: August 18, 2009	hi guys, thans for that, so the 2.6 calipers will fit the same mounting as 1800, and discs will fit, no mods needed just bolt on, is this right mark



JM Motorsport	Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:00 pm Post #7
Member Posts: 904 Group: Members Member #398 Joined: July 11, 2006	depending what you will be using your car for, but for track days i would go for a Ferodo DS2500 or DS3000, or preferably Carbotech XP10 or Pagid RS29 pads. For road use just stick with OEM replacments.



mazza	Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:02 am Post #8
Member Posts: 620 Group: Members Member #151 Joined: January 24, 2006	mwatkins Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:44 pm hi guys, thans for that, so the 2.6 calipers will fit the same mounting as 1800, and discs will fit, no mods needed just bolt on, is this right mark Hi have a good read at the various "brake upgrade" threads...you will find all the info and advice and other members upgrades there. 2.6 calipers and discs will bolt straight on. you might want to look at 2.3/2.5-16v set ups or 4 pot calipers from some w124 models (E300-24v, E400) these have front discs 295mm x 22mm (e300-24v) and 295mm x 25mm (e400). picture of pot caliper from E300-24v on a 190e 3.2AMG Shot with E2500 at 2009-07-16 Mazza



alogaparaloga	Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:10 am Post #9
crazy mind Posts: 612 Group: Members Member #2,419 Joined: March 14, 2008	Have a look on my thread mate http://s14.zetaboards.com/mercedes_190_club/topic/6525603/



jeremy	Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:11 am Post #10
Member Posts: 6,573 Group: Members Member #2,018 Joined: December 9, 2007	mdavison Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:24 pm He might do, but in my experience they have much better initial bite than normal pads, but fade pretty quickly. Maybe Jeremy is just a slow driver? I am at Castle Combe in 2 weeks time , do you want to passanger for some lappery in my 2.5-16V ??? There is some film on here of my driving at Hockenheim in July , if you look at the speedo when I brake you can see full braking time after time , with NO fade at all ...... I use Greenstuff pads + Dot5.1 , but yellow would be as good , if not better . Redstuff take too long to heat up on the road , so not so good for day-to-day driving . Mazza's good ( as always ) advice about using W124 300-24V discs is well worth following . Jeremy Edited by jeremy, Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:12 am.



povey	Wed Sep 2, 2009 8:33 pm Post #11
Member Posts: 195 Group: Members Member #4,047 Joined: April 11, 2009	I have a set of 300e sportline brakes and discs ready to go on with goodridge hoses, should be a good setup



jeremy	Wed Sep 2, 2009 8:39 pm Post #12
Member Posts: 6,573 Group: Members Member #2,018 Joined: December 9, 2007	povey Wed Sep 2, 2009 8:33 pm I have a set of 300e sportline brakes and discs ready to go on with goodridge hoses, should be a good setup Yup that'll be good , what pads / fluid are you going to use ? Also I think that the 300 servo is bigger too ? Jeremy



povey	Wed Sep 2, 2009 8:45 pm Post #13
Member Posts: 195 Group: Members Member #4,047 Joined: April 11, 2009	Im goin for AP 5.1 fluid and i think im going for greenstuff pads and poss brembo grooved discs, im not over keen on drilled ones, i was not to sure about the servo on the 300e, i was going to use a 16v one or one from a bigger car



jeremy	Thu Sep 3, 2009 5:26 am Post #14
Member Posts: 6,573 Group: Members Member #2,018 Joined: December 9, 2007	That set up should be ok , dont overdo it tho' , you dont want to overbrake your car , and find yourself locking up every time you press the stop pedal . BTW , greenstuff pads take a few miles before they grip at all , be carefull for the first 5-10 applications , leave plenty of room in front ! What I do is to left foot brake while I am accelerating , gently of course , just to get them to bed in a bit . Jeremy



povey	Thu Sep 3, 2009 5:50 am Post #15
Member Posts: 195 Group: Members Member #4,047 Joined: April 11, 2009	Cool, thats a good bit of info :-) so that translates to me as rolling burnouts until thay work lol , the car should be a fun drive once its finished



jeremy	Thu Sep 3, 2009 6:05 am Post #16
Member Posts: 6,573 Group: Members Member #2,018 Joined: December 9, 2007	povey Thu Sep 3, 2009 5:50 am Cool, thats a good bit of info :-) so that translates to me as rolling burnouts until thay work lol , the car should be a fun drive once its finished you can ABS brake every time , and still get no fade at all , even after an hour ..... Jeremy



alogaparaloga	Thu Sep 3, 2009 6:28 am Post #17
crazy mind Posts: 612 Group: Members Member #2,419 Joined: March 14, 2008	Don't overdo it. there are instructions for brake bedding process. Just follow manufacturers recommendations. I did bed mine which are normal pads and Brembo discs within a week. Initially 20 miles on motorway and back by keeping constant speed of 60-70 and left foot brake very very gently for some seconds then release for about a minute. Then normal driving about 10 miles in town, and one more quick bleeding. Then go for a test drive , apply your brakes as hard as you can , park, and go out to check your tyres for scratches. and Edited by alogaparaloga, Thu Sep 3, 2009 6:31 am.



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