|
|
| Welcome to the Mercedes 190 forum Welcome to the Mercedes 190 owners forum, the place to be for all owners and lovers of the Mercedes 190E, 190 and 190D cars. Including Cosworth (2.3 16v and 2.5 16v), EVO 1 and EVO 2 models. Modified and concourse, track cars and daily drivers, all are welcome. This free UK based club was started back in November 2005 to serve the w201 community and now has over 4000 members from all around the world and 340,000 + posts. The members welcome you and encourage you to stay a while and have a look around. We offer you friendly chat and access to some very useful information as well as tutorials with photos and videos for many common repair and maintenance jobs. Whatever your needs there is a good chance you will be able to find what your looking for. Such as our Mercedes 190 buyers guide Sign up to gain access to all areas including for sale / classified areas and country wide meetings and events. Many forum features and sections are only available once you sign up. Join our us at mercedes190.co.uk! If you're already a member please log in to your account: |
| Going to philj next week for new exhaust; Cat being removed | |
|---|---|
| Topic Started: Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:58 pm (224 Views) | |
| vindaloo | Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:58 pm Post #1 |
|
Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Looking forward to going to Phil's next Thursday for a new stainless exhaust. It's a 440mile round trip for me so I hope it's worth it!!!!! Going for the discrete look similar to that he fitted to Andy's car recently. Although my car has a CAT it can be removed as it's pre- Aug 1992. Phil is replacing the CAT with a small expansion box so effectively I'll have a 3 box system which I'm hoping will be as quiet (or nearly) as a stock system. As the lambda is before the CAT everything should work fine. I spoke to my mate who runs an MOT garage and he said it would get through a non-CAT MOT without any problems. He advised me to ditch the CAT as he said that early CAT's weren't particularly good and it would be no great loss & it's one less thing to cause a future problem. Anyone else ditched it? |
![]() |
|
| aemt | Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:05 pm Post #2 |
|
Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Well worth the trip. |
![]() |
|
| jeremy | Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:06 pm Post #3 |
![]()
Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Should make your car a little more responsive too . You will notice the difference . Jeremy |
![]() |
|
| vindaloo | Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:45 pm Post #4 |
|
Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Yours looks really good, I'm sure mine will be too |
![]() |
|
| vindaloo | Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:46 pm Post #5 |
|
Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
That's encouraging |
![]() |
|
| Rich27 | Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:55 pm Post #6 |
![]()
If it has tits or an engine it will be trouble
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Hope its good, I`m considering one. |
![]() |
|
| rhysmangatmotorsport | Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:57 pm Post #7 |
![]()
Mangatmotorsport
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Where is phil j based chaps?? Robbie |
![]() |
|
| balamb37 | Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:59 pm Post #8 |
|
Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
I got a SS exhaust from the cat back, about two years ago and I've just been back to the place to organise taking the cat out because it's beginning to rattle excessively and replacing with a two inch diameter SS pipe to the front, so in the near furure mine will also be minus cat and complete SS from the down pipes back. I was told it doesn't make any difference to the sound level, but increases the HP by about 5. so it remains to be seen.
Edited by balamb37, Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:04 pm.
|
![]() |
|
| vindaloo | Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:08 am Post #9 |
|
Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Redhill, Surrey |
![]() |
|
| vindaloo | Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:10 am Post #10 |
|
Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Removing the CAT will make the car slightly noisier as they do suppress some noise; consider replacing it with a small expansion box & don't forget to keep the lambda. |
![]() |
|
| aemt | Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:28 am Post #11 |
|
Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Just a note of warning. Our Satnav (Navman) took us to a village the other side of Redhill using Phil's postcode. His garage is in REdhill so if you are told to go past check. |
![]() |
|
| balamb37 | Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:28 am Post #12 |
|
Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Yeh Vindaloo I know about the Lamda if you get rid of that the engine management goes into Emergency mode and that ain't good, for performance or consumption. although you can get home on it. |
![]() |
|
| whatleytom | Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:43 pm Post #13 |
|
Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Hi there philj. The mid silence on my 2.6 190e has broken, and I need a new one. I have a standard back box, and a cat. I was wondering if you could maybe do pipes from the cat straight to the back box? Would it be way too loud do you think? Or if thats a bad idea, would it be possible to make a stainless replacement? Thanks very much. Thomas. |
![]() |
|
| Threepoint | Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:06 pm Post #14 |
|
Newbie
![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Hi Philj Do you do manifolds for the 4 pot 2.0ltrs?Mine is a `91 on a j plate? Many thanks Martin |
![]() |
|
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
| « Previous Topic · Exhaust · Next Topic » |






![]](http://209.85.122.89/static/1/pip_r.png)






5:27 PM Nov 25