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New 190 owner; Wheel bearing question
Topic Started: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:03 pm (236 Views)
apb	Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:03 pm Post #1
Newbie Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #4,326 Joined: June 27, 2009	Hi everyone, just bought my first 190. It is a 1991 2.0D. I paid Ł80 for it. It needed a good polish, brake disks all round, pads and handbrake shoes. A front coil spring and a handbrake cable. It took a couple of days but looks great and drives great. My only problem now is the lefthand rear wheel bearing is making a noise. I could not tell when i first drove it as it had no brakes and was making all sorts of noises. It is booked in for an MOT on monday. There is no play in the wheel so it should pass! If it does i will do the job at a later date. What i want to know is do the bearings make a noise for ages before they brake up or does it need doing ASAP? Thanks for any advise.



stwat	Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:27 pm Post #2
Moderator Posts: 12,434 Group: Moderator Member #28 Joined: November 11, 2005	Hello and welcome What an absolute bargain 8 I have never heard of abearing breaking up on one before but thats not to say they never do, so id get it done sooner rather than later if i were you. Stu



apb	Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:31 pm Post #3
Newbie Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #4,326 Joined: June 27, 2009	Thanks Stu, the guy was going to scrap it! It is a realy nice car, shame it is red but it is a nice red.



rhysmangatmotorsport	Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:09 am Post #4
Mangatmotorsport Posts: 1,768 Group: Members Member #2,941 Joined: July 9, 2008	hello and welcome...



surreyboy	Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:21 am Post #5
Member Posts: 334 Group: Members Member #4,228 Joined: June 3, 2009	Hi and welcome to the forum Ł80 ? Nice one mate



shrekky	Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:42 am Post #6
Member Posts: 3,918 Group: Members Member #223 Joined: March 23, 2006	apb Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:03 pm There is no play in the wheel so it should pass! If it does i will do the job at a later date. What i want to know is do the bearings make a noise for ages before they brake up or does it need doing ASAP? Thanks for any advise. first hello and welcome to the club......................................secondly if it is noisy as you say ,it shouldnt pass because the bearing is still shot,its a common thing on these cars and i posted warnings about them before,that just because you cant feel play,doesnt mean to say the bearing is ok to drive on,i learnt the hard way,i thought it was a noisy diff because i couldnt feel any play in the bearing,ended up costing me a driveshaft as well .............the only true way to check for play ,is to undo the driveshaft nut,then check.................mine felt ok,no play,until i undid the driveshaft nut,then it had about 2 inches of movement



apb	Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:11 am Post #7
Newbie Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #4,326 Joined: June 27, 2009	Thanks for the input Shrekky. Looks like i have another job to do! I know it's quite a pain to change the rear bearing so is it best to swap the whole hub from a parts car? Assuming the bearing on the parts car is good. If i end up paying a mechanic to do the job does anyone know how much it could cost. The price of this car is rising slowly! It's worth it though! I think!



shrekky	Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:33 am Post #8
Member Posts: 3,918 Group: Members Member #223 Joined: March 23, 2006	the only bit that is a pain,is changing the bearing in the hub............getting the hub off isnt to bad,and anyone who can tell the difference between 1/2 inch and 13mm spanner is capableof taking it off..............you could swap hubs from a donor car,assuming it is good.................but for the cost of a new bearing (Ł20 from GSF) and find a garage or small independant engineering company,that has a bearing press...........i was charged Ł10 for swapping bearings out



apb	Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:40 am Post #9
Newbie Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #4,326 Joined: June 27, 2009	Sounds good! I just wish i had noticed the noise before doing the rear brakes and discs! Oh well! We learn every day. I may cancel the MOT and get this done first. I will also try and post some pics of my red devil. Cheers guy's.



Stempies	Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:44 am Post #10
Hot Lips Posts: 3,305 Group: Members Member #2,380 Joined: March 6, 2008	Welcome, good to see cheap cars brought back to life! Good luck with the bearing & get some pics up ASAP!!



apb	Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:53 am Post #11
Newbie Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #4,326 Joined: June 27, 2009	Here are some pics of my 190D.



apb	Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:32 am Post #12
Newbie Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #4,326 Joined: June 27, 2009	Here are some pics of my 190D, second try. [url]http://img268.imageshack.us/i/p6200042e.jpg http://img199.imageshack.us/i/p6200044d.jpg http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4014/p6200046.jpg[/url] Edited by apb, Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:35 am.



algord83	Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:34 am Post #13
Taller than shorter people Posts: 2,045 Group: Members Member #1,981 Joined: November 30, 2007	Nice one . 80 quid? Alan (Welcome to the forum btw, that is one incredible bargain) Edited by algord83, Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:37 am.



CrysAk	Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:44 pm Post #14
Moar Bass! Posts: 5,050 Group: Members Member #456 Joined: August 14, 2006	jsut ordered new bearings myself, Ł38 for the whole kit from MB (both bearings, all screws + cap)



shrekky	Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:08 pm Post #15
Member Posts: 3,918 Group: Members Member #223 Joined: March 23, 2006	CrysAk Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:44 pm jsut ordered new bearings myself, Ł38 for the whole kit from MB (both bearings, all screws + cap) Ł38 for both rear wheel bearings from MB ?.................sorry chris but i really find that hard to believe,last time i priced a rear wheel bearing from MB it was Ł65+vat,and that was just for the bearing



stone	Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:03 pm Post #16
Member Posts: 282 Group: Members Member #3,985 Joined: March 24, 2009	welcome to the forum fella, what a bargain, glad you were able to save it, it should pay you back for all the work to put it right though, many times over :o)



apb	Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:33 am Post #17
Newbie Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #4,326 Joined: June 27, 2009	Thanks stone, took the rear hub of yesterday and i am picking up the bearing today. Hope to find somebody out here who can press the new one in for me. There was no play in it whatsoever, but it sounds noisy, hope it was the bearing making the noise after all this work! It was noisy until i took a lefthand bend, then it went firly quiet till i straightened up again, so fingers crossed!



apb	Tue Jul 7, 2009 7:12 pm Post #18
Newbie Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #4,326 Joined: June 27, 2009	Hello again, here is an update on the 190D. Replaced discs all round, pads all round, handbrake shoes, handbrake cables, front coil spring, rear wheel bearing, glow plugs, diff oil. Still a couple of small jobs to do but i am chuffed it passed it's MOT yesterday! Oh! and a good polish too! Total cost so far is around Ł350 including buying it. Not including MOT and TAX. Was a lot of work though! Just needs a good long drive now. Another saved from the scrapyard! http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1296/p6240066.jpg http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3357/p6240067.jpg



apb	Tue Jul 7, 2009 7:17 pm Post #19
Newbie Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #4,326 Joined: June 27, 2009	Me again! Forgot to say thanks for all your help and advice. Great Merc site!



aemt	Tue Jul 7, 2009 7:18 pm Post #20
Member Posts: 2,907 Group: Members Member #3,171 Joined: September 1, 2008	Good work. Nice car



surreyboy	Tue Jul 7, 2009 9:57 pm Post #21
Member Posts: 334 Group: Members Member #4,228 Joined: June 3, 2009	Looking goog mate, well done



stwat	Tue Jul 7, 2009 10:43 pm Post #22
Moderator Posts: 12,434 Group: Moderator Member #28 Joined: November 11, 2005	Great work mate, well done I really hope you enjoy the car. Stu



Richy190E	Tue Jul 7, 2009 10:53 pm Post #23
Sales Rep Posts: 1,832 Group: Members Member #1,387 Joined: June 9, 2007	An inspiration, more should be saved from the junkyard. Keep up the good work and keep us updated.



apb	Wed Jul 8, 2009 9:26 am Post #24
Newbie Posts: 21 Group: Members Member #4,326 Joined: June 27, 2009	Thanks guys, i get much more enjoyment fixing up an old car than i do driving a newer car, plus, why scrap a perfectly good car which could last another 10+ years!



Snake	Thu Jul 9, 2009 5:58 pm Post #25
Old free and tattooed Posts: 6,542 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: November 2, 2005	I love this guy...... Brilliant stuff mate i'm chuffed its going so well and you have a cracking motor for a few hundred quid...



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