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| Topic Started: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:51 pm (421 Views) | |
| stwat | Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:51 pm Post #1 |
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The mechanism on the passenger side of my sunroof has broken. What kind of a job is it to replace it? Is it a roof lining out job? And how much are they(lots and lots i'm sure) Cheers, Stu |
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| shrekky | Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:55 pm Post #2 |
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yes stu.........................it quites easily comes off,until you reach the rear windscreen.......then its a biatch.............but you could just roll it up and leave it on the rear parcel shelf  as for price you'll probably get one for around £30 from a scrap yard....................oh btw you will need 2 people to change the sunroof cartridge |
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| stwat | Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:00 pm Post #3 |
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Thanks for the quick reply bud  Is there a how to anywhere? Il have to dig out my cd manual and see if its covered on that |
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| shrekky | Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:06 pm Post #4 |
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its quite easy actually stu.......................,remove the sunroof panel(inner) undo the cable ,remove the roof lining ,pull off the drain tubes..................then theres about a dozen or so nuts rounds the cartridge,undo them and the whole lot just comes out..............remembering to unthread the cable as you take it out the only reason you need 2 people is the weight of the damn thing......lol Edited by shrekky, Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:10 pm.
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| Ukmerctechie | Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:55 pm Post #5 |
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Just change the broken lifter,why do you want to change the cartridge? They are avaialble from the dealer. You dont need to remove the roof lining,just the inner tilt panel and steel panel.Then remove the chrome trims and side guides and remove and refit the new lifter. Pm me if you want and i will talk you thru it. Edited by Ukmerctechie, Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:57 pm.
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| shrekky | Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:03 pm Post #6 |
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have you seen the hike in stealership prices ?.....................one bolt for a eletric window mechanism.....£6 plus vat  and the panel the goes at the bottom of the rear windscreen...............was £12 ish 18 months ago..................now £46 +vat for a panel 2 inches wide and 2-3 feet long...................fecking ridiculous 
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| Ukmerctechie | Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:15 pm Post #7 |
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Yes everyday Shrekky,i order/receive parts day in day out. |
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| stwat | Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:32 pm Post #8 |
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Oh mate, that sounds like a better option than removing the whole fecking lot  Il pM you for a rund down when i finally build up the courage to do the job  Many trhanks mate Stu |
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| cossie connoisseur | Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:44 am Post #9 |
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funnily enough im changing mine today, will let you know how it goes guide i found Edited by cossie connoisseur, Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:47 am.
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| cossie connoisseur | Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:37 pm Post #10 |
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this listing shos how to position the 2 locators ive just done mine, changed quite a lot and adjusted the sunroof (this is in the manual) you unclip the front of the inner linner push it back then open the sunroof and it will come out, remove the rails which is 4 screws each side then close the sunroof to gain acess to the nuts. next you mark the top 4 nuts and remove them allowing the sunroof to come out. change what you want and put back together in reverse sequence. new brackets are £80 from MB each but i got them from mercman ltd but they were the only new ones he had. the other items are quite cheap Edited by cossie connoisseur, Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:38 pm.
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| stwat | Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:48 pm Post #11 |
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Fantastic, Many thanks for that
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| blueblackcos | Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:23 pm Post #12 |
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hi mate i have a 2.3 16v all stripped out for racing. if you show me a pic of the part you need will prob have part lying around. price of postage to you. gary |
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| stwat | Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:28 pm Post #13 |
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Hi Gary, thats fantastic mate many thanks. Il try and get a pic but its the part that lifts up the roof on the left hand side if that makes any sense. il trawl for pics and get back to you asap mate Stu |
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| blueblackcos | Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:32 pm Post #14 |
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no problem mate.
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| cossie connoisseur | Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:51 pm Post #15 |
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this may help |
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| stwat | Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:00 pm Post #16 |
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Indeed it does Nick  I think its number 8 in this image? and most of the gubins that comes with it as i just went out to try and take a pic and lots of bits fell out when i lifted the roof  i tried to take a pic for all its worth  Stu Edited by stwat, Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:00 pm.
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| stwat | Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:22 pm Post #17 |
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Actually, just the bracket(number 8)will do as i can re use the bits that fell out Cheers, Stu Edited by stwat, Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:23 pm.
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| blueblackcos | Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:27 pm Post #18 |
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does this look like what you need? |
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| blueblackcos | Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:42 pm Post #19 |
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dont no how to send pictures with post. gary |
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| stwat | Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:00 pm Post #20 |
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You need to host them on photobucket first then use the image code and post using the image tab at the top of the post you are making. Unless you want to send the pic to me via email? Il PM you my email addy if you want? Cheers, Stu Edited by stwat, Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:02 pm.
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| blueblackcos | Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:09 pm Post #21 |
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yea whats your email address then? will be alot easier as bit slow with computers!! |
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| stwat | Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:11 pm Post #22 |
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PM sent
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| cossie connoisseur | Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:21 pm Post #23 |
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1247800512 left 1247800612 right when i got mine they had the felt buffers on already also note that the new ones are a much stronger design as the old ones are too weak hence why they break. 2 most importaint things on refitting is that as the mechanism is worked by a central cable it is essential that the mechanism is symetrical and the transport bridge is central. second is you need those 2 red fitting tools (46p each from MB) to alighn the mechanism. you will probably have to adjust the cable length uning the knob in the boot(you pull it out fully then in 3mm to turn it).....clockwise longer, anticlockwise shorter and one full revolution equates to 45mm movement in the sunroof!!! Edited by cossie connoisseur, Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:26 pm.
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| blueblackcos | Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:56 pm Post #24 |
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did you get email i sent ? |
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| stwat | Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:59 pm Post #25 |
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Not yet mate no. Did you send it to google mail or hotmail?? I just priced them up new!! 
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| blueblackcos | Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:30 pm Post #26 |
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have just sent them again to both addresses mate. how much new then? |
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| stwat | Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:55 pm Post #27 |
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Still aint got them but my pc is playing up big time tonight  I thinks its ready for a re install of windows.They are about £90 a peice each side
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| blueblackcos | Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:34 pm Post #28 |
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no worries mate. if you send a mobile number will send you the pic throw message. |
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| stwat | Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:48 pm Post #29 |
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 I cant seem to get my phone to accept pic for some reason This is not going well is it
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| blueblackcos | Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:52 pm Post #30 |
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no probs, will get my mate to sort this out so i can upload pics tommoro |
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| stwat | Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:14 pm Post #31 |
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I got the pic at last many thanks. Unfortunatly i cant tell which part it is il post it up here and see if Nick can point us in the right direction. |
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| stwat | Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:23 pm Post #32 |
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This is the pic, can anyone please tell me which part it is i need. Nick i need your help mate!!!!
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| Big Ben | Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:33 pm Post #33 |
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hi cossie con here, hi bud, non of that looks like what i took apart at all. might be a manual operated sunroof but its deffinatly not what i took apart for the 16v sorry |
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| Big Ben | Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:36 pm Post #34 |
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Back to BB now! Nick thinks that these are what you need mate! 
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| stwat | Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:43 pm Post #35 |
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Yes, they dont look anything like the bits on my car to be honest thats why i was unsure. Many thanks for the info you two I think i might just bite the bullet and get a new one
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| cossie connoisseur | Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:52 am Post #36 |
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as i found out with mine, one was broken and the other had a hairline crack so both needed changing, they are very expensive but getting a pair is the only safe option call mercman on 01736757777 or 07956557960 |
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| cossie connoisseur | Sun Jul 5, 2009 5:43 pm Post #37 |
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any joy with this yet bud |
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| stwat | Sun Jul 5, 2009 9:59 pm Post #38 |
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No i havent got round to sorting it yet Nick. My lack of a job is kind of throttling what i can spend on the car at the moment |
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| newowner | Mon Jul 6, 2009 4:54 pm Post #39 |
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hi, just seen this thread. i am having all kinds of problems with my sunroof. This thread has given me alot of help to get going but do you all have any tips for me before i get going on it? Its it only going to be the lifting arms that are broken?? is it really 180+ to replace them? if i get them cheaper from mercman they will be 2nd hand and fragile, right?? |
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| cossie connoisseur | Mon Jul 6, 2009 5:07 pm Post #40 |
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second hand ones may well be the weaker design but they still last 20 years, however at some point MB realised a potential problem so moddded the arms to be stronger. there are a few things that can cause sunroof malfunction and it really is a specialist job to repair unless you have some bulls and know how to tackle it. its very hard to set everything up and the n on top of that fit the sunroof lid so it will be slighty up at the rear and slightly down at the front |
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