Steering Wheels & SRS Airbags

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Steering Wheels & SRS Airbags; and the SRS system
Topic Started: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:16 am (243 Views)
smugla	Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:16 am Post #1
Member Posts: 172 Group: Members Member #717 Joined: December 7, 2006	just had a look at my doorwell and aparentley my air bag needs replacement next year aparently they should be replaced after 15 years is it really worth replacing them ? 1.as far as i know its not a mot falure 2.cost (i shuder to think)



Benzsc1	Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:35 am Post #2
Member Posts: 938 Group: Members Member #889 Joined: January 31, 2007	According to the Mercedes they pass there sell by date at this point I thought it was 10years but yours is obviously different for some reason I may be wrong! its up to you if you wana replace mate its your safety the thing is it might still work fine but there will be no garuantee after that date?? The other option is to change the steering wheel to a non airbag the only reason I say this is because if its out of date then you never know if one day it may deploy itself unexpectedly who know BTW I am no airbag expert just my opinion



smugla	Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:39 am Post #3
Member Posts: 172 Group: Members Member #717 Joined: December 7, 2006	neither am i i just think cost wise its not effective to change it its ok till 2008 ill see what other members have to say



stwat	Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:56 pm Post #4
Moderator Posts: 12,416 Group: Moderator Member #28 Joined: November 11, 2005	They go out of date? Is that the same for all cars with airbags? Cos mine is 11 years old this year :unsure: Stu



Matt	Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:00 am Post #5
Administrator - Hawk Eye Posts: 14,126 Group: Admin Member #20 Joined: November 8, 2005	stwat Feb 16 2007, 12:56 AM They go out of date? Yeah they go all mouldy gross.gif and you could end up with a face full of mould gross.gif :lol: Sorry couldnt resist. Well first things first is to ring Mercedes and find out exactly how much a replacement airbag unit is. Its only the center part not the complete steering wheel. Probably cost in the region of �300-�400



190neil	Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:15 am Post #6
Member Posts: 1,714 Group: Members Member #48 Joined: November 15, 2005	Matt Feb 16 2007, 02:00 AM Probably cost in the region of �300-�400 An airbag was �1,347 in 1990 so I think it's gonna be more than you think!



smugla	Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:28 pm Post #7
Member Posts: 172 Group: Members Member #717 Joined: December 7, 2006	thats what i mean its not viable to replace i bought my 190e 1.8 auto k reg for �850



Benzsc1	Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:29 pm Post #8
Member Posts: 938 Group: Members Member #889 Joined: January 31, 2007	Yeah forget it mate just drive round with a crash helmet on just in case :lol:



stwat	Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:47 pm Post #9
Moderator Posts: 12,416 Group: Moderator Member #28 Joined: November 11, 2005	190neil Feb 16 2007, 10:15 AM Matt Feb 16 2007, 02:00 AM Probably cost in the region of �300-�400 An airbag was �1,347 in 1990 so I think it's gonna be more than you think! That's for the whole system to be fitted to the car, sensors, control units, etc etc. Like Matt says, the only part that needs replacing is the bag itself so wont be anywhere near as much as that. Stu



Matt	Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:22 pm Post #10
Administrator - Hawk Eye Posts: 14,126 Group: Admin Member #20 Joined: November 8, 2005	stwat Feb 16 2007, 03:47 PM 190neil Feb 16 2007, 10:15 AM Matt Feb 16 2007, 02:00 AM Probably cost in the region of �300-�400 An airbag was �1,347 in 1990 so I think it's gonna be more than you think! That's for the whole system to be fitted to the car, sensors, control units, etc etc. Like Matt says, the only part that needs replacing is the bag itself so wont be anywhere near as much as that. Stu Exactly, thats why I suggested to ring them first and see how much the part is



Big Ben	Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:25 pm Post #11
Member Posts: 4,905 Group: Members Member #155 Joined: January 26, 2006	You may find the gas generator needs changing too. Needs a specialist to do it though!



smugla	Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:45 pm Post #12
Member Posts: 172 Group: Members Member #717 Joined: December 7, 2006	IM NOT GOING TO CHANGE IT



Big Ben	Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:49 pm Post #13
Member Posts: 4,905 Group: Members Member #155 Joined: January 26, 2006	:lol: :lol: :lol:



cool_friend00	Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:20 pm Post #14
Member Posts: 104 Group: Members Member #703 Joined: December 2, 2006	smugla Feb 16 2007, 08:45 PM IM NOT GOING TO CHANGE IT Great choice don't forget you are in 190 you should be fine



stwat	Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:24 pm Post #15
Moderator Posts: 12,416 Group: Moderator Member #28 Joined: November 11, 2005	smugla Feb 16 2007, 01:28 PM thats what i mean its not viable to replace i bought my 190e 1.8 auto k reg for �850 You cant put a price on your life mate. Stu



smugla	Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:03 am Post #16
Member Posts: 172 Group: Members Member #717 Joined: December 7, 2006	mate is NOT cost effective 90 percent of cars i have driven HAVENT had a air bag so i think ill be fine for �500 i can pick up another 190 its just not viable



thinksoutloud	Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:35 am Post #17
Member Posts: 933 Group: Members Member #425 Joined: July 26, 2006	Quote: You cant put a price on your life mate. I know a fella who'll do 'im for a grand! :lol: :lol: :unsure: .j



smugla	Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:46 pm Post #18
Member Posts: 172 Group: Members Member #717 Joined: December 7, 2006	There are no checks at all on airbags as part of the MOT Test. MOTT. Thread merges here - Admin. Edited by dave_irl, Thu May 28, 2009 8:58 am.



NEIL	Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:36 pm Post #19
Fewer Posts than Kenny Posts: 16,161 Group: Members Member #63 Joined: November 18, 2005	If my car came with an AirBag as standard (which goes out of date in 2008) can i replace the steering wheel with a non-AirBag wheel? If so, is there some sort of electrical trick to prevent the SRS light being on permanently?



cossie connoisseur	Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:41 pm Post #20
fat tits Posts: 9,672 Group: Members Member #110 Joined: December 18, 2005	take out the bulb :ph43r:



Ukmerctechie	Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:42 pm Post #21
Member Posts: 2,168 Group: Members Member #454 Joined: August 12, 2006	Take the bulb out of the dash :lol: On a serious note you will lose all the srs including the belt pullers. Dont do it mate. The bag will be fine for a few years yet. It will not explode on you,it just means it is not guaranteed to deploy in an accident. But saying that it probably will.



andycowman	Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:51 pm Post #22
Member Posts: 654 Group: Members Member #434 Joined: July 31, 2006	How about the other way round? I have a steering wheel with airbag but dont have the system in the car. I quite fancy having the bag removed from the wheel to be honest before I put it on. Any idea how I can do this?



project86	Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:43 am Post #23
Newbie Posts: 28 Group: Members Member #1,360 Joined: June 1, 2007	I measured the circuit for the airbag and it seems that if one were to place a 3 ohm resistor in the circuit that this would maintain all the functionality of the SRS. I just bought an OMP wheel and I plan on doing this. How does one get an airbag wheel off and replace it with a momo hub? Thanks



johnalpi	Sat Sep 1, 2007 5:40 pm Post #24
Member Posts: 116 Group: Members Member #1,593 Joined: August 10, 2007	Hi all, How do you know when your air bag is past its shelf life?



NEIL	Sat Sep 1, 2007 5:59 pm Post #25
Fewer Posts than Kenny Posts: 16,161 Group: Members Member #63 Joined: November 18, 2005	johnalpi, on my 1993 car there is a black SRS label on the driver's side front door-shut. Mine expires in 2008



JensonGB	Sat Sep 1, 2007 8:50 pm Post #26
I Will Find One That I Keep! Posts: 3,302 Group: Members Member #619 Joined: October 25, 2006	Didn't one of the motoring programes do a feature on airbags, where they tested some of the very first ones installed (25 years old rings a bell) and they worked perfectly?



Sev	Mon Sep 3, 2007 8:05 am Post #27
No Longer a Registered Member Posts: 1,981 Group: Members Member #962 Joined: February 19, 2007	another thing that can be done is to swap the airbag with a post 91 airbag and wheel, and put the matching (non-expiring srs crash sensor) in place. get a sportline steering wheel after 91, for example. Thread merges here - Admin. Edited by dave_irl, Thu May 28, 2009 9:34 am.



Karl1975	Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:23 am Post #28
Newbie Posts: 43 Group: Members Member #2,692 Joined: June 1, 2008	Hi all have a 91 merc with a air bag fitted to the steering wheel can i change this over to a standard wheel without problems like lights srs coming on permently. what would be the best way to disconnect and were would i get a boss to fit...



Lewis 190E 2.5 16	Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:29 pm Post #29
I love speedbumps Posts: 6,597 Group: Members Member #918 Joined: February 7, 2007	You need to disconnect is under the passenger footwell then remove the wheel, two torx screws to remove the air bag section then one large bolt to remove the wheel, what were you thinking of changing it to? a full aftermarket kit i.e steering wheel and boss kit. If so there are many wheels and boss kits to go for, please use the search to see all the different wheels people have fitted, not going into that as there are enough threads on the different types of wheels, 350mm and the correct boss kit and your good to go. Edited by Lewis 190E 2.5 16, Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:30 pm.



Karl1975	Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:47 pm Post #30
Newbie Posts: 43 Group: Members Member #2,692 Joined: June 1, 2008	Lewis190e 2.5 16 i have a momo wheel left over from a previous car just need the boss kit so any help as to which type or place to by them would be great as my current wheel has a airbag did not know which why to go...



Lewis 190E 2.5 16	Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:54 pm Post #31
I love speedbumps Posts: 6,597 Group: Members Member #918 Joined: February 7, 2007	Up to you, Smiffy is selling a boss kit and there are ones on ebay at �14.99 that fit most wheels i.e momo, sparco etc but wont fit Nardi and Personal wheels as there are complete different fitments, but seeing as you have a momo wheel all you need is this Ill go over it again on how to remove the air bag wheel: -In tha passenger footwall remove the carpet and unplug the srs plug -Then the battery -There are two holes behind the wheel -There torx screws here undo these -Then once done the airbag section will remove -Then undo the centre bolt 10mm ^^^ Edited by Lewis 190E 2.5 16, Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:58 pm.



Karl1975	Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:54 pm Post #32
Newbie Posts: 43 Group: Members Member #2,692 Joined: June 1, 2008	Ok thanks for the info will follow the instructions and replace the wheel..with the srs system not working will this not put the system into fault does it require it for mot ? and how easy is it to reconnect the system..i'll give it a go anyways. and post pics when done.. also found this which i guess is not the correct type... Steering Wheel Adaptor Boss Kit PART NUMBER 6008 Once your original steering wheel has being removed the airbag comes off with it. The new Boss Kit fits back onto your car allowing the new steering wheel to be fitted. The difference of an airbag boss kit is that the airbag boss will allow the airbag light to turn off once fitted. Will Fit The Following Cars. MERCEDES CHASSIS W 168 CLASS A W 163 CLASS M W 220 CLASS S W 210 CLASS E W 202 CLASS C 638 CLASS V To fit on all MOMO steering wheels, but only cars with airbags fitted Edited by Karl1975, Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:59 pm.



dave_irl	Thu May 28, 2009 9:05 am Post #33
I love offset. Posts: 8,729 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: November 2, 2005	okidokie... I searched all of the interior and electrical sections for the terms "airbag" and "srs", using both forum searches and manually ctrl+f'ing on every page... And I all I came up with was these two threads so I merged them. My latest acquisition has the SRS light on, so I want to reset it or fix the fault. My own 190 and the one before it didnt have airbags so this system is new to me. Hopefully we have some more info now since this topic was last touched in 2007! (edit, found more threads in 2008 - merged in here now) With the SRS light on, does that mean the whole system is deactivated? Seatbelt tensioners included? I will price a new airbag but it would be nice to find a simpler solution first.. Thoughts please Edited by dave_irl, Thu May 28, 2009 9:25 am.



dave_irl	Thu May 28, 2009 9:22 am Post #34
I love offset. Posts: 8,729 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: November 2, 2005	More info found in another thread: the airbag system: and to remove it: Ukmerctechie, Sun Apr 1 2007 1:26 am do not just pull the airbag towards you!! Go to the passenger footwell,remove the carpet section,remove the steel panel under the carpet. Under this panel there is a red plug marked SRS,disconnect this plug with the battery disconnected. Feel behind the wheel boss for two recessed holes(3 and nine o'clock) Inside these holes is a securing screw(30 torx from memory) You will need a long torx bit,undo these screws and then the bag will come forward. Pull the red connector in the centre of the airbag and fully remove the bag(store it face up well out of the way) then remove the steering wheel centre lock bolt(10mm allen key)the wheel will then come off. The bolts are marked number 20/70 in the picture of the steering wheel. Have fun and be safe Still want to reset the light though. Presuming that the airbag going out of date is the "fault", how does the system know what is a new airbag?? I'll disconnect that plug and reconnect it to see if it does anything, but I know somebody out there knows something..



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