Banded steels

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Banded steels; Any opinion's?
Topic Started: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:53 pm (307 Views)
Weyrmaster	Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:53 pm Post #1
Errrrrrrr! Posts: 302 Group: Members Member #3,825 Joined: February 11, 2009	Thinking about getting the standard steels banded to 7.5 so the car looks as it does now, but i can play with the tyre sizes a bit more. I think they will suit it, and i suppose it's a bit old skool but i like the standard look . Any opinion's/advice would be greatfully received.



dave_irl	Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:07 pm Post #2
I love offset. Posts: 8,729 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: November 2, 2005	Band them, but band them to 9J, with offset around Et20... Then take a few cm from the ride height



alan	Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:16 pm Post #3
this looks like fun Posts: 3,877 Group: Members Member #2,052 Joined: December 21, 2007	I'm gona sound daft (as usual most will be thinkin) but what are you talking about???



mindingthepotole	Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:45 pm Post #4
Go on... buy a rusty one. lol Posts: 1,613 Group: Members Member #3,843 Joined: February 17, 2009	"Banding" is cutting the steel wheel in half and adding an extra inch or so to the width and welding back together. did this on my old capri, worked well, but the police dont like it.... and nor does VOSA.



NEIL	Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:51 pm Post #5
Fewer Posts than Kenny Posts: 15,962 Group: Members Member #63 Joined: November 18, 2005	I'd be intrigued to see a W201 on Banded steels, but tbh I'd lean towards 16" steels widened to 8J, and a -40mm drop. Painted Matte Battleship Grey



alan	Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:51 pm Post #6
this looks like fun Posts: 3,877 Group: Members Member #2,052 Joined: December 21, 2007	sounds like fun keepin them air tight be some job gettin the extra foot print while keepin the standard look You gona go for a larger band on the rears for the slight stepped look



Weyrmaster	Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:59 pm Post #7
Errrrrrrr! Posts: 302 Group: Members Member #3,825 Joined: February 11, 2009	Never thought of that. Good idea m8. I'll give that some more thought. As to the airtight thing, no problem with good seam welding



sportline_stu	Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:40 pm Post #8
Member Posts: 916 Group: Members Member #2,447 Joined: March 23, 2008	Hmnnnnn...... They would look interesting. I like the idea of painting them - maybe a nice metallic graphite type grey? I have to say there is something I like about the old circle style wheel trims and the idea of a lowered 190 with those trims wearing something like a 225 width tyre and losing many newer cars round bends and turns is rather amusing! Stu.



merc190uk	Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:45 pm Post #9
Steve Posts: 7,403 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 1, 2005	could work well go for it



AndyBoroFC	Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:37 pm Post #10
Hi! I'm Sheriff John Bunnell! (Retired) Posts: 1,568 Group: Members Member #1,567 Joined: August 3, 2007	I like the look personally, as long as the welding is done properly so they remain airtight. Matt Jones from Practical Classics magazine is building a W123 with a W126 5.6 V8 conversion and he had the W126 16" steels banded, sprayed Satin black and fitted to it. They look superb against the Grey paintwork.



double h	Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:48 pm Post #11
Newbie Posts: 22 Group: Members Member #2,158 Joined: January 16, 2008	Weyrmaster Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:53 pm Thinking about getting the standard steels banded to 7.5 so the car looks as it does now, but i can play with the tyre sizes a bit more. I think they will suit it, and i suppose it's a bit old skool but i like the standard look . Any opinion's/advice would be greatfully received. Have you taken the plunge yet as it would be very intresting to see what banded wheels look like on a 190e.They look cool on watercooled vw's and i would think they would be cool on the merc.The cost of having them done puts me off though as i dont have that kind of cash.If you have done it give us a peek .



Rich27	Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:59 pm Post #12
If it has tits or an engine it will be trouble Posts: 13,052 Group: Members Member #348 Joined: June 15, 2006	Banded wheels in the UK are Illiegal. The chances of getting the cut on the wheels and then getting bands welded on pefectly on all 4 wheels is highly unlikley. If they are out by 1 degree you will get problems Save your time and money and source some wider alloys Edited by Rich27, Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:01 pm.



Richy190E	Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:04 pm Post #13
Sales Rep Posts: 1,742 Group: Members Member #1,387 Joined: June 9, 2007	Steel wheels are welded anyway so i've never understood the issue, as long as you get it done properly, i.e cut on a lathe and the same thickness steel welded in professionally and concentrically you'd be hard pushed to tell.



Rich27	Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:11 pm Post #14
If it has tits or an engine it will be trouble Posts: 13,052 Group: Members Member #348 Joined: June 15, 2006	Still illegal though. Like wheel spacers in Ireland, legal in the UK , Illigal in Eire



double h	Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:00 pm Post #15
Newbie Posts: 22 Group: Members Member #2,158 Joined: January 16, 2008	They are not illegal although it is a grey area.



Stempies	Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:15 pm Post #16
Hot Lips Posts: 3,221 Group: Members Member #2,380 Joined: March 6, 2008	Think you'll find insurance could be a problem too!!



mindingthepotole	Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:39 pm Post #17
Go on... buy a rusty one. lol Posts: 1,613 Group: Members Member #3,843 Joined: February 17, 2009	i will give this a go next week... i have a set of steels from an omega... i will band a rim and then get a tyre thrown on and then take a pic of it fitted to the car..... well that is if you guys would like me too.



double h	Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:12 am Post #18
Newbie Posts: 22 Group: Members Member #2,158 Joined: January 16, 2008	Cool, looking forward to it.



Bart707	Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:42 am Post #19
Member Posts: 4,358 Group: Members Member #2,244 Joined: February 7, 2008	mindingthepotole Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:45 pm "Banding" is cutting the steel wheel in half and adding an extra inch or so to the width and welding back together. Ah i did not know that. Actually i have never come close to thinking about something like that - you learn something new everyday. Good Luck.



nathantheengineer	Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:42 am Post #20
Member Posts: 89 Group: Members Member #2,051 Joined: December 21, 2007	banding steel wheels is not illegal in the uk. If they are done by a reputable company such as http://www.bandedsteels.com/ up here in west yorks. Get em done right and there is absolutely no worries.



alan	Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:30 am Post #21
this looks like fun Posts: 3,877 Group: Members Member #2,052 Joined: December 21, 2007	Rich27 Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:11 pm Still illegal though. Like wheel spacers in Ireland, legal in the UK , Illigal in Eire seriously spacers are illegal in ireland dont think ill bother changing the ka alloys as she is only popping down to get petrol once a fortnight just hope the gardi dont catch on lol



dave_irl	Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:10 am Post #22
I love offset. Posts: 8,729 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: November 2, 2005	The steelies on a base model W203 are 16" to begin with, and they look like around 7.5 maybe even 8J so that would be a good place to start with.. Even just as they are they would look good on a dropped car..



khimani_mohiki	Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:17 am Post #23
Member Posts: 329 Group: Members Member #3,735 Joined: January 16, 2009	nathantheengineer Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:42 am banding steel wheels is not illegal in the uk. If they are done by a reputable company such as http://www.bandedsteels.com/ up here in west yorks. Get em done right and there is absolutely no worries. I fancy some banded steels for the SEC but this place won't give a phone number or real address, wants cash up front and has a 4 week lead time. not to mention the price, �340 just for the banding then 20 odd quid per wheel to get them finished off nice ready for paint. All in all you would be looking around �500 and you would still only really have a set of steel wheels.



dave_irl	Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:20 am Post #24
I love offset. Posts: 8,729 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: November 2, 2005	khimani_mohiki Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:17 am nathantheengineer Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:42 am banding steel wheels is not illegal in the uk. If they are done by a reputable company such as http://www.bandedsteels.com/ up here in west yorks. Get em done right and there is absolutely no worries. I fancy some banded steels for the SEC but this place won't give a phone number or real address, wants cash up front and has a 4 week lead time. not to mention the price, �340 just for the banding then 20 odd quid per wheel to get them finished off nice ready for paint. All in all you would be looking around �500 and you would still only really have a set of steel wheels. +1, the concept is cool, but their T&C and prices burst the bubble a bit! If you could competently DIY it, or have a hook up with an engineering/machine/welding shop, then, maybe.. But I know where my .5G would go.



Stempies	Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:32 am Post #25
Hot Lips Posts: 3,221 Group: Members Member #2,380 Joined: March 6, 2008	In the days of jack-up kits & fuzzy dice, a mate of mine bolted a set of wheels face inwards to his Morris Marina for that 'banded' look!! Needless to say .............. a ball joint snapped and he crashed it in a ditch!!!!



alex199	Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:21 pm Post #26
Newbie Posts: 16 Group: Members Member #4,530 Joined: August 19, 2009	Rich27 Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:11 pm Still illegal though. Like wheel spacers in Ireland, legal in the UK , Illigal in Eire They are not one bit illeagal only if the tyre tread is outside the arch hence stretched tyres the ones in the pictures are banded golf g60 steels http://www.bandedsteels.com/ Edited by alex199, Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:22 pm.



Richy190E	Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:49 pm Post #27
Sales Rep Posts: 1,742 Group: Members Member #1,387 Joined: June 9, 2007	A good machine shop probably charge more than �100 a rim due to the precision involved, i'd rather pay the firm who do it for a living and know they'd been lathe cut and welded, they've done their development by the sound if it and found their niche in the market. DIY is a big no-no really, you'd most likely end up strapping 100g weights everywhere to balance up.



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