Missing My Rubber Bung Things.

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Missing My Rubber Bung Things.; What Are They ?
Topic Started: Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:44 am (462 Views)
MadMike	Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:44 am Post #1
Member Posts: 3,827 Group: Members Member #1,062 Joined: March 15, 2007	Had the Mot done on the car yesterday. The tester told me, and then showed me, that I have some rubber bung things missing. They go underneath the car, I think behind the front wheels and are close to the sill. He showed me where they should be, mine were missing. All I could see was a big round hole where they had been, the hole was about 3 / 4 inches across I think. I have been looking on the Russian site but have not been able to find them. What are these things and what are they for ? He told me I should replace them, he said I might get rust start to form without them. If I can identify them and they are not too expensive I will get some. Any ideas, what are they and what are they called ?



Will	Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:46 am Post #2
Member Posts: 2,080 Group: Members Member #458 Joined: August 15, 2006	Are these the jacking point rubbers? If so I've got the part number at home, they're about �2 each. Will



shrekky	Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:48 am Post #3
Member Posts: 3,912 Group: Members Member #223 Joined: March 23, 2006	they are jacking points mike .................but they corrode ,where the rubber bung fits in,quite a few of us a removed at least one of them and just welded over they hole there should be 4,one on each corner of the floor pan.



MadMike	Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:51 am Post #4
Member Posts: 3,827 Group: Members Member #1,062 Joined: March 15, 2007	shrekky Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:48 am they are jacking points mike .................but they corrode ,where the rubber bung fits in,quite a few of us a removed at least one of them and just welded over they hole there should be 4,one on each corner of the floor pan. This was under the car...not on the side where you have the hole to insert the jack. Edited by MadMike, Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:52 am.



rick 1	Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:38 am Post #5
Member Posts: 816 Group: Members Member #573 Joined: October 9, 2006	MadMike Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:51 am shrekky Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:48 am they are jacking points mike .................but they corrode ,where the rubber bung fits in,quite a few of us a removed at least one of them and just welded over they hole there should be 4,one on each corner of the floor pan. This was under the car...not on the side where you have the hole to insert the jack. yes theres rubber pads underneath,near the sills.to jack the car up on aswell.yours are missing. Edited by rick 1, Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:39 am.



MadMike	Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:42 am Post #6
Member Posts: 3,827 Group: Members Member #1,062 Joined: March 15, 2007	Ok guys, thanks. When I next go to the stealership I will get some. My car is nice and solid underneath, dont want rust to get started.



Peter Ross	Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:05 am Post #7
Newbie Posts: 36 Group: Members Member #627 Joined: October 28, 2006	Hello Madmike The parts you refer to are jacking point "bungs ". They are located under the car, one in each corner of the sills / floor pan, and are there should you wish to use a "trolley" jack. The Mercedes -Benz terminology is jacking "Plug" part number : MA201 997 00 86. In april last year I purchased some from the dealer, the price then was �2.15 each plus v.a.t. Make sure the locating point is free from corrosion before fitting. I sploshed loads of waxoyl into the ones on my car prior to inserting the new plugs. To date , no problems. Hope this helps, best wishes, Peter. P.S. To install the new rubber bungs: Locate the new bung under the hole in the floorpan and use a trolley jack to press the new bung into its new home, job done !!



HughF	Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:12 am Post #8
Member Posts: 223 Group: Members Member #380 Joined: June 29, 2006	These can get knocked off/out if you're lowered and you catch them on a speed bump... good to get a part number as I need to replace a damaged one.



MadMike	Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:23 am Post #9
Member Posts: 3,827 Group: Members Member #1,062 Joined: March 15, 2007	Peter Ross Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:05 am Hello Madmike The parts you refer to are jacking point "bungs ". They are located under the car, one in each corner of the sills / floor pan, and are there should you wish to use a "trolley" jack. The Mercedes -Benz terminology is jacking "Plug" part number : MA201 997 00 86. In april last year I purchased some from the dealer, the price then was �2.15 each plus v.a.t. Make sure the locating point is free from corrosion before fitting. I sploshed loads of waxoyl into the ones on my car prior to inserting the new plugs. To date , no problems. Hope this helps, best wishes, Peter. P.S. To install the new rubber bungs: Locate the new bung under the hole in the floorpan and use a trolley jack to press the new bung into its new home, job done !! Peter, thanks for that. I wil deffo get some and replace them. I will, as you advise, clean the holes and treat them to prevent rust from starting. Mike.



bearkat	Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:00 pm Post #10
Bear Posts: 384 Group: Members Member #2,138 Joined: January 12, 2008	OH dear!!, do we know our cars?, even my local garage(non merc), thought they where drain points , i have to buy 8, fortunately theres no rust,but i,ll still treat the area before fitting, Thanks for another usefull thread guys, Gordon.



JM Motorsport	Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:02 pm Post #11
Member Posts: 904 Group: Members Member #398 Joined: July 11, 2006	There are drain pipes in the sills, and these often come off too. Its a small rubber bunge with a 1" pipe.



charl44	Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:33 pm Post #12
Member Posts: 1,931 Group: Members Member #243 Joined: April 10, 2006	Numbers 56 and 74 in the diagram are what you need for the underside, both cheap from the dealers. http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.asp?TP=1&F=201029%5F15C&M=103%2E942%2C983&GA=722%2E409358&GM=717%2E435432%2C450&CT=F&cat=15C&SID=68&SGR=030&SGN=01 Ian



MadMike	Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:51 pm Post #13
Member Posts: 3,827 Group: Members Member #1,062 Joined: March 15, 2007	charl44 Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:33 pm Numbers 56 and 74 in the diagram are what you need for the underside, both cheap from the dealers. http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.asp?TP=1&F=201029%5F15C&M=103%2E942%2C983&GA=722%2E409358&GM=717%2E435432%2C450&CT=F&cat=15C&SID=68&SGR=030&SGN=01 Ian Could you explain a little more......item 56 looks like the bungs I am missing...what is item 74...what does it do... where does it go...why do I need that ? Thanks, Mike.



charl44	Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:57 pm Post #14
Member Posts: 1,931 Group: Members Member #243 Joined: April 10, 2006	Number 74 is a drain grommet, it is situated near the jacking rubbers(number 56), if you going to get corrosion on the underside this is where it`s likely to be, does this help? Ian



MadMike	Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:07 pm Post #15
Member Posts: 3,827 Group: Members Member #1,062 Joined: March 15, 2007	Aaaah, thanks. One last question please, still not 100 %. do I need just one item 74, or is it 4 I will need...one for each item 56 that I get.



charl44	Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:09 pm Post #16
Member Posts: 1,931 Group: Members Member #243 Joined: April 10, 2006	you will need four, two each side as per the jacking rubbers. Ian



MadMike	Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:11 pm Post #17
Member Posts: 3,827 Group: Members Member #1,062 Joined: March 15, 2007	charl44 Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:09 pm you will need four, two each side as per the jacking rubbers. Ian Ian, many thanks for that. Mike.



khimani_mohiki	Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:55 pm Post #18
Member Posts: 337 Group: Members Member #3,735 Joined: January 16, 2009	Oh dear, I had a look under mine recently and the back two are missing and the hole is full of rust. I guess I could scrap out the rot and weld ove them, do you really need them though?



charl44	Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:00 pm Post #19
Member Posts: 1,931 Group: Members Member #243 Joined: April 10, 2006	Look at it this way, they are there for a reason. if they were not needed they would not be there. Ian



Rich27	Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:31 pm Post #20
If it has tits or an engine it will be trouble Posts: 13,260 Group: Members Member #348 Joined: June 15, 2006	Peter Ross Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:05 am I sploshed loads of waxoyl into the ones on my car prior to inserting the new plugs. To date , no problems. Oooh good one, I love waxoil



Rich27	Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:28 am Post #21
If it has tits or an engine it will be trouble Posts: 13,260 Group: Members Member #348 Joined: June 15, 2006	I need some the drain grommet is special order and �2 The jacking rubber is �17;50 +Vat !!!!! Now I think I will waxoil then Weld over the holes.



Rich27	Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:24 am Post #22
If it has tits or an engine it will be trouble Posts: 13,260 Group: Members Member #348 Joined: June 15, 2006	Then again a quick visit to a local scrap yard and there was a W202 there, the rubbers are slightly different but they fit



charl44	Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:21 pm Post #23
Member Posts: 1,931 Group: Members Member #243 Joined: April 10, 2006	Are you sure you got the right part Rich? jacking rubbers are this much http://www.mercedes-benz-parts.co.uk/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&sku=a2019970086&page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&option=com_virtuemart Ian



kentronix	Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:24 pm Post #24
Admin Posts: 16,348 Group: Admin Member #147 Joined: January 20, 2006	Take care of your jacking points folks, I scrapped the white one partly because all the jacking points needed welding. Clean em out, protect them, AND stick a rubber in there, thats my advice anyway.



iamjohnlarkin	Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:38 pm Post #25
Newbie Posts: 41 Group: Members Member #1,473 Joined: July 6, 2007	BAD NEWS IS THE JACKING POINT RUBBERS FOR THE 190 USED TO BE �2.15 FROM THE DEALER ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO. THEY ARE NOW �20 +VAT EACH!! SOMEONE ON THE FORUM ADVISED RECENTLY HE HAD USED THE PLUGS USED FOR THE E CLASS WHICH FITTED OK. PART NUMBER GIVEN WAS 126 997 1886. HAPPY HAPPY THESE WERE ONLY �3 EACH. UNFORTUNATELY THESE DO NOT FIT. DIAMETER IS MORE THAN A QUARTER INCH LARGER THAN THE FITTING ON THE CAR. TRYING TO PRESS THEM IN WITH A TROLLEY JACK JUST DOES NOT WORK. ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER SOLUTION AS INVESTING NEARLY �100 IN RUBBER BUNGS WHICH WILL PROBABLY GET WIPED BY A SLEEPNG POLICEMAN IS NOT COST EFFECTIVE.



alfagtv	Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:29 pm Post #26
Member Posts: 242 Group: Members Member #2,424 Joined: March 16, 2008	did you try covering the bung in waxoyl so summin prior to fitting?, should pop in then....



Rich27	Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:22 pm Post #27
If it has tits or an engine it will be trouble Posts: 13,260 Group: Members Member #348 Joined: June 15, 2006	alfagtv Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:29 pm did you try covering the bung in waxoyl so summin prior to fitting?, should pop in then.... Thats what I did, (With the help of my mallet)



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