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Brake Setup
Topic Started: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:11 am (418 Views)
Matt	Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:11 am Post #1
Administrator - Hawk Eye Posts: 14,126 Group: Admin Member #20 Joined: November 8, 2005	This thread is for everything to do with Brake setup for Track use.



mazza	Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:48 am Post #2
Member Posts: 615 Group: Members Member #151 Joined: January 24, 2006	Hi folks We have now a new alternative for big brake set ups for the 2.3-2.5-16 (will probably cover other models but for the moment we are using the cossies as prototypes) There is one organisation that will be supplying the Caliper adapters (machined or non machined) and the rest is pretty much DIY. Calipers radial mounting - Porsche Brembo 4 piston calipers from models (996c/997c/turbo/Boxster/) these are going for around �300 for a decent second hand set. Brmbo calipers can also be used. Discs - Zimmermann cross drilled 320mmx28mm or 330mmx28mm, These are currently not available in the UK but after a few chats with the folks from GSF, They can supply these discs for �49.00 per disc. Adapters - these will be supplied by http://www.mbt-engineering.de/ for 4 piston calipers and 330mmx28mm disc combination, they will be using their (mbt 140) adapter which can cover All Brembo callipers with a radial mounting design and bolt distances up to 142 or max. 150 can be fitted. Mbt supplies machined adapters which are ready to use, I already have a a price for the machined adapters but I think it needs more negotiation. for a pair of machined adatpers the price was around 350..00 euros.. (my lap top went nutts on me and i lost a lot of data including emails) things to remember... heat shields must be modified, wheel size and off set to ensure that they can take the calipers...wheel size minimum 17". there are also options for 6 piston calipers. we are just checking the steering knuckle details for the adapter to ensure that the measurements that MBT have are the same as the 2.3-25-16's. Folks! I will post the contact person at MBT Engineering so if anyone has any techie questions you can mail them directly.. I'm not very good with technical stuff so if any techie gurus out there want to help with the development of these adapters and these diy kits will be apreciated... cheers Mazza



dave_irl	Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:09 am Post #3
I love offset. Posts: 8,729 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: November 2, 2005	Mazza, thats just great work right there, nice one



mazza	Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:18 am Post #4
Member Posts: 615 Group: Members Member #151 Joined: January 24, 2006	hey! if anyone wants to search German ebay for Porsche brembo calipers just use this... "Porsche brembo 4 kolben bremssattel" (4 piston) Vorne - front Hinten - rear Hope this helps mazza



dave_irl	Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:00 pm Post #5
I love offset. Posts: 8,729 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: November 2, 2005	I already have some Alcon/Brabus 4 pots but the brackets may come in useful! Still looking for a useful solution for the rear though



zoomer46	Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:15 am Post #6
Member Posts: 1,210 Group: Members Member #509 Joined: September 2, 2006	just a thought, can you put the front discs and calipers on the rear? is it a straight bolt on ? Edited by zoomer46, Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:16 am.



dave_irl	Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:07 am Post #7
I love offset. Posts: 8,729 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: November 2, 2005	Well Im putting rear calipers from a bigger set up onto my smaller car, so anything is possible and can be made fit I guess



carl mcgraw	Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:34 am Post #8
Member Posts: 453 Group: Members Member #35 Joined: November 11, 2005	I have an 8-pot set-up on 330 discs...wow..!! It's for sale, you know ;-D



zoomer46	Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:43 pm Post #9
Member Posts: 1,210 Group: Members Member #509 Joined: September 2, 2006	i saw them at steves once,the wp ones, how much you want?



mazza	Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:55 pm Post #10
Member Posts: 615 Group: Members Member #151 Joined: January 24, 2006	Hi Folks Ok!! here's the contact details for the Universal adapters http://www.mbt-engineering.de/ contact - Uwe Braun email- mbt.gbr@t-online.de If anyone is interested...just email Uwe with what type of calipers you are planning to get and he will give you advice and what adapters to use etc.. cheers mazza



dave_irl	Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:47 pm Post #11
I love offset. Posts: 8,729 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: November 2, 2005	Hey Mazza, can these guys make up bells(hats) for using two piece discs? As I have found the rotors I want (294x28mm) but so far am looking at custom bells..



mazza	Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:21 am Post #12
Member Posts: 615 Group: Members Member #151 Joined: January 24, 2006	dave_irl Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:47 pm Hey Mazza, can these guys make up bells(hats) for using two piece discs? As I have found the rotors I want (294x28mm) but so far am looking at custom bells.. Hi mate not sure...send Uwe an email...just mention your're from our forum...he already knows about us..and that he might get questions from us.... I need to ask him a couple of questions also...so I'll add this question too.. cheers



Racing	Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:32 am Post #13
Member Posts: 788 Group: Members Member #384 Joined: July 1, 2006	Simple and works EXTREMELY well; AMG C32. Find a set at a wrecker.Complete with discs at least around here we�re talking like 400 pounds. Have 4 shims turned on a lathe that are 3mm thick. Bolt the twp calipers apart. Toss the 4 "lose" pieces/caliper halves around so that the inlet port of resp caliper points downwards. Install. Get flexlines cut to lenght.(Goodridge or similar) OEM C32 discs are 345mm dia and fits spot on the 201 hub. If your car isn�t a valver,replace master cyl with a used one from a 500SL-also from wrecker. There you have more than ample brakes that�ll make the ABS work like a madman when going all out at 100mph on dry when on regular street radials. Simple,cheap,effective and all mercedes. No need for adapters or anything the likes. Just the 4pcs of shims stated. Difference in braking performance vs the OEM valver isn�t even funny... Edit. The install out of quite obvious reasons renders you using 17" wheels. Edited by Racing, Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:33 am.



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