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| W201 Build Threads; Trying to compile a definitive list | |
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| Topic Started: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:42 pm (1,166 Views) | |
| NEIL | Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:42 pm Post #1 |
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After viewing some rather incredible build threads on other marque sites, I thought it would be a good idea (shamelessly stolen from another forum who stole it from someone else) to compile a definitive list of the major W201 builds undertaken by members here. A kind of 'Hall of Fame' if you like, but without any inference of heirarchy or competition. Nice, clean threads not cluttered with random chat but instead filled with explanation, detail and examples of ingenuity. Up to now, I have sought out and found detailed, picture-filled build & modification threads from: Cra_arc Energie Taint Zaber12 I know there are more out there, but it would be nice if other members could pipe up with a few suggestions. It's a shame UKMercMan Steve is so damn secretive, as the results of his builds are fookin' amazing! The 'W201 Epic Builds' thread could have an entry for each member / car along the lines of: - A 'from this' picture - A 'to this' picture - A link to the Build Thread for that car - Anything else we think is relevant? If any of you are a little lost, CLICK HERE. Suggestions & comments most welcome
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| CrysAk | Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:19 pm Post #2 |
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nice idea ^^ hopefully i can throw mine up when its done too ^^ |
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| dave_irl | Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:25 pm Post #3 |
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Theres also Racings turbo thread (still updated on the Rev) and a couple of good builds from mb190klubb too. I think its a good idea. All we need are links really, not like we have to post everything all over again! Well, Chris and I will have to when we are done but hey, thats another thing
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| NEIL | Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:30 pm Post #4 |
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Aye, that's what I was thinking. Some of the Golf threads I cited go into quite insane detail, and really show the meticulous nature of the builders - as someone less adept at mechanical stuff, I really appreciate that level of explanation accompanied with stacks of clear pictures! Aside from what folk on here get to see, it makes for one hell of a historical document for the car in question... |
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| JensonGB | Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:48 pm Post #5 |
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Might have a go at that on my 16v project too, there will be plenty of welding, upgrades, rebuilds and painting to show as the car is rebuilt (whilst still trying to run it as long as i can) Good idea, but if dave_irl and CrysAk can post theirs first i can nick some ideas
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| Martrider | Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:29 am Post #6 |
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Longest build time in history?
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Well, the start of mine is back, this weekend is the first serious crack i'm having at it so will be updated as and when. |
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| RobertE | Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:51 am Post #7 |
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That is one of your better ideas, Neil; I'll post the results of the EFI/EDIS venture when it is complete, but progress is a tad slow at present, as I'm having an inlet manifold fabricated which will cause some delays... |
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| CrysAk | Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:21 am Post #8 |
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Moar Bass!
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theres an inlet manifold for 16v on ebay at the moment, apprently theres 10 of them, might be worth taking a look? |
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| RobertE | Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:32 am Post #9 |
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Contacted the bloke - he has not reverted. But - I have discovered another bloke in Northampton (ex-Cosworth, I think) who used to build hot versions of our engines and knows them well. So I've sent off a spare manifold to allow him to measure the ports, etc., and he's going to fabricate. He's worked out, on the back of a fag packet, the inlet length, etc, size of injector, airflow needs, and we'll use Jenvey DCOE TB's, which are very handsome. So, there will be a delay, but we are trying to take a view on producing 'kits' at a reasonable price, obviously picking the brains of others (Jesper, SilverCosworth, et al.) who have done this. The plan is to produce something quite poisonous and have some fun before the petrol runs out! Before I am forced onto the chipfat route! |
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| Conrad | Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:12 am Post #10 |
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Please, please, please do make kits! |
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| RobertE | Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:17 am Post #11 |
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Well it's all a bit speculative, but we have a lot of interest in co-operation with a view to limited production. I'm happy to spend the dough to find out, though... |
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| Matt | Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:47 am Post #12 |
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Without going off topic too much, converting to EFI is not as expensive as alot of people think. Just research and plan well. |
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| RobertE | Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:57 am Post #13 |
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Q. agree, Matt, I think, as Jesper has pointed out, that the dyno work is prolly the single biggest item! |
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| Conrad | Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:59 am Post #14 |
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For the sake of the time taken etc, I really think Silvercosworth's kit is quite a reasonable option. Now, if only I had a spare £1500... |
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| RobertE | Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:47 pm Post #15 |
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And a spare 6 months to wait, as rumour has it! Poor sod; he clearly underestimated demand, if what I read on the Rev is correct... |
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| NEIL | Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:47 pm Post #16 |
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So guys, any more ideas of who's done major builds / engine swaps / etc? - Big Al Merc transplanted Benny's old 2.3-16 lump into his 8v. Any more? |
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| Matt | Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:03 pm Post #17 |
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:ph43r: |
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| NEIL | Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:41 pm Post #18 |
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You're really rather good at the pictorial write-ups Matt, would be great to see any of your builds or paint jobs
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| Matt | Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:43 pm Post #19 |
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Don't worry Neil, I will have a great one soon
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| big al merc | Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:06 am Post #20 |
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it's done pity everything has stopped at the moment due to needing to do some work around home |
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| NEIL | Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:28 pm Post #21 |
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Colin's build thread: Click here Zaber12's build thread: Click here Energie's build threads: Click here and here ...and here Taint's build thread: Click here Big Al Merc's build thread: Click here JM Motorsport's build thread: Click here Matt's build for Katie & Gordon: Click here LiVn_It_UP's build thread: Click here 80's yuppy car's build threads: Click here Click here Click here I know there are more, I just can't remember! Please rack your brains guys, and add to this thread. I will continue adding as I find them. Thanks!
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| RM Merc 190 | Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:45 pm Post #22 |
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can a mod put Neil's last thread on it's own into a sticky so it doesn't get lost
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| NEIL | Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:27 am Post #23 |
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Ok, some new additions: SixSpeed5's build thread: Click Here CrysAk's build thread: Click Here dave_irl's build thread: Click Here joreto's build threads: Click Here and Here eire_190's engine swap thread: Click Here I think I should have started this in another section? Could it please be moved to, and pinned in, 190 Media perhaps? |
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| shrekky | Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:38 am Post #24 |
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neil is this a just a modified build thread ?..................or just a general re-build thread which include modification builds ? because if its the latter what about my re-build ?............pre-facelift to post facelift to smashed up and rebuilt again
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| NEIL | Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:51 am Post #25 |
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I just wanted to create a definitive list of member's cars that have undergone major work, with links to write-ups / pics etc. No rules or exceptions, everything welcomed - restorations, engine swaps, body conversions, whatever. If you've either got a few threads on your rebuild, or want to write a fresh stage-by-stage one, go for it and post it in here! Yours has undergone a hell of a transformation! EDIT! I've had a better idea; Now I know that a few folk think we have too many sections/subsections on this board already, but how about a subsection of Show Off Your 190 entitled Projects & Restorations? That way, the threads I've rounded up so far could simply be moved from their current locations into there, rather than having to find a thread that contains a list of threads! It also means that whenever folk embark on new Projects (Jeremy!), they can simply start one new thread in there. We could lay down one simple rule: One Thread Per Car. Whadya reckon? Edited by NEIL, Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:13 am.
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| Big Ben | Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:32 am Post #26 |
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Good Idea.
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| Matt | Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:33 am Post #27 |
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I shall have a few more for you soon Neil. |
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| jeremy | Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:05 pm Post #28 |
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Yeah, mate , I'm here! I think that the thread you are suggestting is a great idea. Lets do it. Jeremy
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| dave_irl | Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:12 pm Post #29 |
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Moved and pinned, though there are a lot of things pinned here now, might have to tidy up a bit. Just one question Neil, do I start a new build thread seeing as the car has changed? Though its essentially the same project ![]() Im thinking Ill continue it in the silver car thread? hmmmm
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| maggot | Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:48 pm Post #30 |
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Great work Neil.............however, just clicked on the Taint link and it makes for some VERY strange reading !! |
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| dave_irl | Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:02 pm Post #31 |
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haha so it does |
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| NEIL | Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:10 pm Post #32 |
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So, we have a new addition: Matt's 2.3-16 Evolution-II Replica build thread: Click Here! Edited by NEIL, Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:10 pm.
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| dave_irl | Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:35 pm Post #33 |
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great work Neil, nice thread of threads
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| Matt | Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:54 pm Post #34 |
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Can I have my own sub section because ive got a few more to post still
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| NEIL | Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:20 pm Post #35 |
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One thread per car fella, but hey you're fast becoming Mr. Project!
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