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| Topic Started: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:02 pm (652 Views) | |
| CrysAk | Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:02 pm Post #1 |
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as some of you already know im looking to get a 16v project rolling cosmetic wise this is how i want it to come together, may chance the grille to avantgarde, but the stock grille seems to suit the 16v kit better overall i want something dark and mean looking what you guys think? (sorry for whoevers car i butchered :P)  |
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| Lewis 190E 2.5 16 | Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:31 pm Post #2 |
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See banbutchers (spelling?) 190, i think thats the look your trying to go for Sort of ukmercman's (steve) aswell... I've really got to get a set of operas, there lovely... |
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| CrysAk | Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:36 pm Post #3 |
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idd very much like steves witha few changes.. uh... tinted headlights and smoked rears/corners/sides lol , also 2 pieces operas
 although they only comes in 18s so some arch work also probablywill google that other guy soon (playing wow with gf :P) |
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| CrysAk | Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:04 am Post #4 |
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just found the pics. so regarding wheel size, does steve have 18s? heres bans... (17s?)  and steves? (old one maybe? something about rip?) (18s?)  if so im def going 18s again, they not as bad as i make them out to be sometimes ... well.. if you drive sensibly |
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| NEIL | Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:15 am Post #5 |
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Steve's are 17s
 Nice ideas btw Chris, how far can you go smoking the headlamps before Plod get shirty? Also, would you think of fitting HIDs? |
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| kentronix | Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:19 am Post #6 |
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If your gonna smoke the front you should smoke the side markers too I reckon. Very dark. |
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| CrysAk | Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:35 pm Post #7 |
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ahh thanks they look 18s in that pic O_o unless i got the wrong car? old one maybe? yea will be fitting 6000k HIDs to it also, havnt looked into the legalities of tinting them. will also be smoking the side indicators, forgot to in that PS
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| Lewis 190E 2.5 16 | Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:40 pm Post #8 |
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Yeap both steve and Bunbutchers cars are running 17" operas... 18's will be alittle too big, they will be okay if your not lowering but 17's are perfect with a 40 or 60mm drop and are plenty big enough... I think you should add a splitter, A BMW one or laguna seems to work well... A nice Nardi, Momo, OMP steering wheel to finish of the look on the inside... Maybe leave the chrome strips on the grille chrome but keep the colour coded frame... Full leather seats etc all the bits Will make a lovely cossie... |
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| CrysAk | Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:06 pm Post #9 |
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only problem is the opera 2's i want only come in 18s+
 how much arch work will be required to make them fit with acceptable tyres? the tyres i got on mine at the mo are fine untill i hit anything more than 1inch high :S not sure what i will do with teh grille yet, will possibly put on an avantgard colourcoded as mine is at the mo., not too keen on keeping things chrome (hate it lol) apart from the 2 stars. will probably throw the sterringwheel i got in mine atm in there, (momo) and spray anything wood with black as i have in mine also. just tidy it all up a little. will also be soundproofying EVERYTHING, floor/roof/doors/boot and thowing on a stainless steel exhaust system inc downpipes. + full audio system. just a bit worried about the exhaust and audio conflicting... so thats not set in stone just yet, will prob go with audio over exhaust. but hoping the sound porrfing will helpn alot, these cars seem to be sound proof on the inside as it is. |
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| NEIL | Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:15 pm Post #10 |
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Chris, 18s are for show cars. Cossies are for driving HARD. Fit 17s, or feel the pain. You've been warned :lol: |
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| Lewis 190E 2.5 16 | Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:20 pm Post #11 |
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Yeah^ As long as you find out the ET of the opera 2's then you should be okay, a 40mm drop will rub like mad over bumps and maybe when turning on the bumper, so you may need to move the bumper forward and flare the arches out a bit apart from that you should be okay with the deep dishes on the rears... A remus back box will put a nice note on the 16v and as for audio depends on how far you want to go, if it is going to be a show car then there plenty of options... As for the spraying everything black, i would instead put carbon effect on the wood gear surround or if you wanted to do it "properly" get some carbon and get some made up the same shape as the surround with all the switch holes and inserts etc.... Again it all depends on how far you wanted to go... Inside of the door *must* be soundproofed as they don’t have any padding or proofing there.... |
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| CrysAk | Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:01 pm Post #12 |
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haha thanks guys think ill find some 17s then
not too keen on carbonfibre, looks tacky unless its a race car, and wana keep the 16v tidy, not ricer
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| NEIL | Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:16 pm Post #13 |
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I always thought the Zebrano gear surround looked lonely and out of place in the 16vs, as the heater dials and ashtray don't have any matching trim, unlike the later 8v/12v cars. Personally, I'd do it in Piano-Black 
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| Lewis 190E 2.5 16 | Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:27 pm Post #14 |
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Piano-black, carbon etc all the same
But yes its down to you, but aslong as it goes..... |
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| CrysAk | Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:21 pm Post #15 |
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Wheels.... what wheels are out there that actually suit the 190.. and are available in 17s , all the ones i like are only available in 18/19+ apart from variations of the AMG reps i have at the mo.. or single piece operas which look tidy anything else look really good? |
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| Lewis 190E 2.5 16 | Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:49 pm Post #16 |
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-OZ superleggera -Five star c class wheels w203 but in 17" not seen alot in this size -Again the operas -Again the mono's -EVO 2's -AMG areo 1 -Various BBS wheels -Borbet Nové -Ronals -OZ superturismo and titans That should start you off.... |
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| CrysAk | Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:03 pm Post #17 |
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lol thanks m8 ^^ you sure know your cars
although after looking at them im not too keen on them apart from the amgs and operas still :/ maybe im jsut picky lol
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| Lewis 190E 2.5 16 | Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:28 pm Post #18 |
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If i cant find a set of operas i'd have these borbets:
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| CrysAk | Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:30 pm Post #19 |
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they look nice, although im hoping to find something with a diamond cut lip on, they look so good in the sun, even better with a little bit of dish |
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| Lewis 190E 2.5 16 | Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:31 pm Post #20 |
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I dont know what to suggest, NEIL will be able to help or Dave irl Borbet do alot of deep dish wheels... Erm could try Ronal... EDIT:What about these WALD wheels:   Or these Duchalet wheels, like the operas but with a lip:  Or these AMG wheels, but no lip: 
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| CrysAk | Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:47 pm Post #21 |
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ahh yea forgot about wald, nice one ^^ will look into them
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| big al merc | Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:15 am Post #22 |
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thats a dutchalet wheel with a wald centre
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| Lewis 190E 2.5 16 | Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:42 am Post #23 |
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Oh yeah^^ Didnt see the Duchalet on the wheel :lol: *Changed* |
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| maggot | Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:48 am Post #24 |
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Carlssons look good on the 190......... 
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| CrysAk | Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:03 pm Post #25 |
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thiking about going black rims with diamond cut/chrome lip, think it will suit the car well being everythign else will be black minus the two stars. also gonna go test drive a 2.5 16v ina sec, so maybe ill find out what all this fuss is about
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| Lewis 190E 2.5 16 | Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:11 pm Post #26 |
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You'll soon see what the fuss is about Take it past 6500rpm and you will see whats these are about hell spin it round to 7000rpm... Once you do that you wont stop wanting one!! Drive both, they are so different but yet soo much the same, you'll see what i mean, the 2.3 is so revy! yet the 2.5 has that top end.... If it is a manual you will fall in love with the dogleg gearbox, it takes abit of getting used to tho.... |
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| CrysAk | Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:59 pm Post #27 |
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wow.. not only was the car IMMACULATE, very little rust, and extremely well kept (25k+ in receipts for past few yrs, with alot of things replaced and tuned every 6 months) (2k audio system + radar/cat 1 alarm) but these cars are lovely to drive i want 1!!!! just kept pulling to the red line and that was in 3rd from 10k revs.... my icle 1.8 doesnt pull so much even in 1st or 2nd :(, the guy said it doesnt really pull until 40k, but compared to the 1.8 it pulls so well in teh lower revs lol am also def getting 17s, trying to get out of the traders parking lot without damageing them took longer than the test drive lol think ill try a 2.3 next if only this one was in 199 and the rpice (6k) was a littel better would of def gone for it.. if *cough* i had the money right now |
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| cossie connoisseur | Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:01 pm Post #28 |
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take it you dont like any colour other than black then
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| Lewis 190E 2.5 16 | Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:01 pm Post #29 |
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Yeap, they dont really pull down low, you have to keep reving them to get anywhere.... You sometimes look right stupid when people look at you when revving the car... But yes after around 4-5k is where the power comes in.... |
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| CrysAk | Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:09 pm Post #30 |
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lol yea well compared to the smoke silver and red, 199 wins by a longshot imo. atleast for what i want to do with it. the car seemed to pull well 9atleast enough) for what i wanted it to do in the lower revs, so i cant complain too much, didnt try revving the tits off it lol, will save that till i bought it ^^ also worries me a little if i need to do that and have a stainless steel exhaust on... gonna be a tad loud |
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