Hid Kits

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Hid Kits
Topic Started: Wed Oct 3, 2007 11:24 pm (1,722 Views)
johnalpi	Tue Nov 6, 2007 2:38 pm Post #41
Member Posts: 116 Group: Members Member #1,593 Joined: August 10, 2007	dav316 Oct 26 2007, 10:48 PM hi guys i got my xenon kit and i went for the 6000k they are mint and once i went xenon i will not be going back to normal blubs they are a piece of cake to fit i got my kit off ebay cost me 85 quid. i have a few questions tho, has anyone else with the hid kits been stopped by the police?? i have been stopped and appartently it looks too blue. to me it does not its just pure white and even on the box it states it is a near match for daylight. just wanted to ask if anyone else has been bothered by the fuzz. i am surprised to the previous post that quotes my nieghbour has purple/blue lights as they are recommened for shows only. thanks I finally got mine fitted yesterday and totally agree with the above. I also went for a drive at night for about 1 1/2 hours. The kit creates a fantastic quality beam, really amazing. I didn't get one flash, even when I had the lights on the highest setting (the little adjuster next to headlight switch) I passed a copper where he had to give way to me on a roundabout and I didn't get pulled, only time will tell on that department... I'll get some pics up later. My advice; get some today and take it easy on gritted roundabouts or you'll end up facing the other direction!



johnalpi	Tue Nov 6, 2007 5:44 pm Post #42
Member Posts: 116 Group: Members Member #1,593 Joined: August 10, 2007	Picstures Down my tenfoot/gunnel/back ally: High Beam: Same place dipped: Good vibrations:



dave_irl	Tue Nov 6, 2007 7:09 pm Post #43
I love offset. Posts: 8,729 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: November 2, 2005	So is there a consensus yet on what are the good kits to buy? They all seem to be random spurious brands/kits so far! Also, what bulbs are in the lower lights in an AMG front bumper? I believe they act as an extra set of high beams? If so, Im thinking quad HID lights, hi/lo H4 in the mains and hi-only H?'s in the bumper.. Ultimate nighttime mountain driving



cossie connoisseur	Tue Nov 6, 2007 7:13 pm Post #44
fat tits Posts: 9,667 Group: Members Member #110 Joined: December 18, 2005	im suposed to be given a trial rat on the first road legal hid kit in the uk. they are not out yet and will be the OFFICIALroad legal ones. 6000 im sure they are. also magnetic got the guy from kevin coopers oposite me and it was mentoned to him. when he gets them in the next few days ail have a set stick them on and review them. as they are road legal it will elate peoples fears.



johnalpi	Tue Nov 6, 2007 7:29 pm Post #45
Member Posts: 116 Group: Members Member #1,593 Joined: August 10, 2007	I and another member bouhgt some Chinese copies of Bosch items. I've got nothing to campare them with other than pictures about the forum and they look very much the same. Mine cost �124 delivered for H4, 4000k, Bi-Xeons and they are, IMO, brilliant, we'll have to see about the quality and life... I will get one on my bike too in the summer. This is the link for the shop I got mine from eBay



stwat	Wed Nov 7, 2007 4:26 pm Post #46
Moderator Posts: 12,366 Group: Moderator Member #28 Joined: November 11, 2005	Just a quick note about the seller you posted above. He accepts offers of �70 for the kits. Just thought id mention it to save anyone a little dosh if they do buy them from him



johnalpi	Wed Nov 7, 2007 8:49 pm Post #47
Member Posts: 116 Group: Members Member #1,593 Joined: August 10, 2007	That is true. Its a steal!



CrysAk	Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:34 pm Post #48
Moar Bass! Posts: 5,050 Group: Members Member #456 Joined: August 14, 2006	so whats the best kit(s) to buy? now studio left us (apparently he was going to be selling the best ones) i need to know where to get some ^^



stwat	Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:41 pm Post #49
Moderator Posts: 12,366 Group: Moderator Member #28 Joined: November 11, 2005	Well to be honest the fake Bosch kit is not as good quality as the kit i had on my Golf. If i had to buy another kit from ebay id go for the HID's Direct kits. Dont get me wrong, the fake bosch ones work fine but just seem a tad down in the quality stakes. Made in China and all that. The Golf kit was German and it showed



Kynyption	Wed May 21, 2008 6:13 am Post #50
Member Posts: 120 Group: Members Member #651 Joined: November 7, 2006	I have a set made by ....damn going to have to get back to that , 12000k nice hyper blue/white bright as day light and uses some of the slimest ballasts i have ever seen Im talking 13mmx80mmx50mm they are tiny and are complete independent light plug and play. The h4 plug plus to the ballast the headlight fits in the stock mounting and three plugs go from the ballast to the headlight. Took me 4 mins to put it as if it were reg bulbs. You need to srill a small hole in the rear cover but the wires have a grommet that they hold in air with. Best part is its a dual bulb setup. Reg lights are HID's high beams are halogen. So i can change back and forth whenever. Shop near my place in the US sold them for $120 USD with 1 year no questions asked warranty.



Andre F	Wed May 21, 2008 7:33 pm Post #51
Member Posts: 230 Group: Members Member #2,074 Joined: December 29, 2007	Are HID kits legal where you guys live?! In Denmark the car has to have headlight washers, clear glas and fully automatic level adjustment I put H3 8000k in a set of fog-lamps with DE lenses. Blinds noone and looks awesome... Can't remember the name of them. And i can turn them off when the cops show up lol



chilsta	Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:03 pm Post #52
Member Posts: 104 Group: Members Member #2,654 Joined: May 17, 2008	I was just about to shell out for a set of HIDs having read this thread, but I'm glad I found this article by Daniel Stern first. I've read his site before and I know he's well respected in the world of car lighting. Some quotes: Quote: Halogen headlamps and HID headlamps require very different optics to produce a safe and effective�not to mention legal�beam pattern. How come? Because of the very different characteristics of the two kinds of light source. Quote: The problem is that not only is foreground lighting of decidedly secondary importance when travelling much above 30 mph, but having a very strong pool of light close to the car causes your pupils to close down, worsening your distance vision...all the while giving you this false sense of security. This is to say nothing of the massive amounts of glare to other road users and backdazzle to you, the driver, that results from these "retrofits". Read the article here.



omessiah	Sun Mar 1, 2009 8:50 am Post #53
Newbie Posts: 14 Group: Members Member #3,886 Joined: February 26, 2009	I had installed my own HID kit myself.It is 6000K and I've had positive thoughts with them...What is your feelings? Good works to all... Edited by omessiah, Sun Mar 1, 2009 8:51 am.



-V-	Sun Mar 1, 2009 1:21 pm Post #54
The Hamster Posts: 2,619 Group: Moderator Member #39 Joined: November 12, 2005	As old as this thread maybe, i seem to have missed all of it! I've been doing a bit of reading about HID kits this morning (not done so for a few years since purchasing mine!) and some of it is quite alarming!! I installed my McCulloch 6000k HID kit some years and have always been happy with it. They use Philips bulbs (supposedly!) and McCulloch Ballasts. I've always been happy with the kit, didn't take too long to fit and isn't a problem when swapping it out for my stock H4s for the purpose of the MOT. I would highly recommend this company. They are one of the more expensive kits, but is good none the less. NOW - here is the alarming bit. I read on a site who contacted several 'key players' in the HID industry and it turns out that there are a LOT (and i mean A LOT) of people all around the world that are selling HID kits under the names of McCulloch, Bosch, Philips and JDM but the truth is that they are all FAKES!!!!! They are all being manufactured in China and Taiwan and tend to slap these stickers on to fool the buyer. The brand McCulloch (though they were built by an outsourced company) stopped making HID kits a while back but there are still people selling HID kits under that name despite the company now only selling garden and power tools!? The point i'm trying to make from this is that is may be true that a �200 kit will give the same results as a �50 kit, and that in the HID game - a name means nothing! As long as it comes with a warranty and you are able to source bulbs/ballasts after the warranty period (should you need to) then that is all you want to be looking out for! BUT - be sure to do your homework before purchasing. Look at the product, look at what other people on other forums have had to say about it etc. I did a lot of research into which HID kit to buy before purchasing mine and learnt a lot of valuable things along the way! If you have any questions about them, feel free to ask!



feoffle	Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:50 pm Post #55
Member Posts: 184 Group: Members Member #4,315 Joined: June 23, 2009	cossie connoisseur Tue Nov 6, 2007 7:13 pm im suposed to be given a trial rat on the first road legal hid kit in the uk. they are not out yet and will be the OFFICIALroad legal ones. 6000 im sure they are. also magnetic got the guy from kevin coopers oposite me and it was mentoned to him. when he gets them in the next few days ail have a set stick them on and review them. as they are road legal it will elate peoples fears. This is NOT true. There is no such thing as a "road legal" HID kit. The law specifically states that it is illegal to put an HID capsule into a housing designed for halogen lights. Not to mention it's downright annoying for anyone driving in the opposite direction, particularly with reflector based headlights in something like a 190E, glare heaven. It is also illegal to display a blue light, as it kind of looks like emergency service lights? OEM headlights on other manufacturers cars only look blue on the very cutoff of the beam, where the projector lense refracts the light, not the whole beam itself. I've done a lot of research on HID headlights, and I've done a total projector retrofit in my Honda which has been taken from an S2000. Essentially if you get pulled by the fuzz for having dodgy headlights, you have absolutely no defence.



Big Ben	Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:44 am Post #56
Member Posts: 4,905 Group: Members Member #155 Joined: January 26, 2006	feoffle Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:50 pm cossie connoisseur Tue Nov 6, 2007 7:13 pm im suposed to be given a trial rat on the first road legal hid kit in the uk. they are not out yet and will be the OFFICIALroad legal ones. 6000 im sure they are. also magnetic got the guy from kevin coopers oposite me and it was mentoned to him. when he gets them in the next few days ail have a set stick them on and review them. as they are road legal it will elate peoples fears. This is NOT true. There is no such thing as a "road legal" HID kit. The law specifically states that it is illegal to put an HID capsule into a housing designed for halogen lights. Not to mention it's downright annoying for anyone driving in the opposite direction, particularly with reflector based headlights in something like a 190E, glare heaven. It is also illegal to display a blue light, as it kind of looks like emergency service lights? OEM headlights on other manufacturers cars only look blue on the very cutoff of the beam, where the projector lense refracts the light, not the whole beam itself. I've done a lot of research on HID headlights, and I've done a total projector retrofit in my Honda which has been taken from an S2000. Essentially if you get pulled by the fuzz for having dodgy headlights, you have absolutely no defence. That post was made 2 years ago! Never got them as they didnt pass certification for the very reasons you state. The main problem is with the headlamp lens which would need to be clear and have a "cut off" for light bleed. Shame really but since then halogen bulbs have improved, which along with cleaning the inside of the unit, makes visibility a bit better!



feoffle	Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:32 am Post #57
Member Posts: 184 Group: Members Member #4,315 Joined: June 23, 2009	Big Ben Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:44 am feoffle Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:50 pm cossie connoisseur Tue Nov 6, 2007 7:13 pm im suposed to be given a trial rat on the first road legal hid kit in the uk. they are not out yet and will be the OFFICIALroad legal ones. 6000 im sure they are. also magnetic got the guy from kevin coopers oposite me and it was mentoned to him. when he gets them in the next few days ail have a set stick them on and review them. as they are road legal it will elate peoples fears. This is NOT true. There is no such thing as a "road legal" HID kit. The law specifically states that it is illegal to put an HID capsule into a housing designed for halogen lights. Not to mention it's downright annoying for anyone driving in the opposite direction, particularly with reflector based headlights in something like a 190E, glare heaven. It is also illegal to display a blue light, as it kind of looks like emergency service lights? OEM headlights on other manufacturers cars only look blue on the very cutoff of the beam, where the projector lense refracts the light, not the whole beam itself. I've done a lot of research on HID headlights, and I've done a total projector retrofit in my Honda which has been taken from an S2000. Essentially if you get pulled by the fuzz for having dodgy headlights, you have absolutely no defence. That post was made 2 years ago! Never got them as they didnt pass certification for the very reasons you state. The main problem is with the headlamp lens which would need to be clear and have a "cut off" for light bleed. Shame really but since then halogen bulbs have improved, which along with cleaning the inside of the unit, makes visibility a bit better! Ah yes, apologies, didn't pay attention to the date HID kits are just a bugbear of mine, a number of people in this area have them and go about blinding everyone.



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