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| Does the Koran really say this?; Koran question | |
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| Topic Started: Mar 10 2009, 01:21 AM (61 Views) | |
| Michael | Mar 10 2009, 01:21 AM Post #1 |
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I have heard someone say that the Koran allows its followers to lie about things if it means that the outsider who is being lied to will think more positively of islam as a result of that lie. Can anyone verify if this is true or not? If it is true, what is the reference so that I can look for myself? |
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| Fouad | Mar 22 2009, 09:11 AM Post #2 |
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Yes quran teach lies. There are a lot of common Islamic principles, which allows for a Muslim to lie, including: - A trick of war. - Necessities permit taboo. - If one chooses the lesser of two evils. These principles are derived from the Koran and Hadith. In the Koran, God calls on Muslims to lie sometimes: "God does not Iwakzkm Ballgo in your oaths, but Iwakzkm convened including faith Vkvarth feed ten poor of the Middle Ttamon Ohlekm or clothing or edit neck. Vsyam it is not found for three days so if your faith in expiation Hfattm and also keep your faith in God shows you His signs that you may be thankful." Surat Al-Maida 89:5. "God does not Iwakzkm Ballgo in your oaths, but including Iwakzkm won your hearts and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful." Sura 225:2. "Kafr faith in God after only hate and reassuring faith in his heart. But it is issued, together, they explain the anger of God and have a great punishment." Surat Al-Nahl 106:16. The mark, Sheikh al-Tabari in his explanation of the previous verse, this verse revealed to Mohammed after he heard that Kafr Ammar Bin Yasser Mohammad taken to invasive structures, and forced him to do so. Muhammad said to him, "returned the Fd." (Ie if Okdhuk again Vakzb again). |
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| Marrakoshi99 | May 7 2009, 07:00 PM Post #3 |
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hi Michael ! you asked if islam allows its followers to lie in order to make no-muslims think positively about islam. The answer is NO. Muslims reveal their religion as it is without camouflage! if a non-muslim asks about our religion we answer truthfully.If he discovers that we are liars and islam isn't what we pretend it to be, he will leave it. It is clear! Please Michael! And don't accept anything you hear especially if the information comes from the opponents of islam And don't accept anything you get from our friend Fouad. This person either doesn't understand islam or he knows it but he uses misinformation to distort the image of islam! Fouad has come up with what he calls ''common Islamic principles": 1. He said that islam allows lying in war. Yes, that is true. Throughout history, man has used lies to protect himself from danger. even prophets used 'camouflage' to fight their enemies. it is natural. Let's imagine an Iraqi muslim asks an US army officer about American forces in Iraq and other secrets. Will the american answer truthfully???? !! 2. Fouad comes with well-known islamic expressions but his translation isn't correct. He translated as ( Necessities permit taboo). But the close translation to its real meaning is ( Necessities allows transgressing a law). For example, a muslim who is very thirsty in a Sahara desert ,and who has no water finds an alcoholic drink. In this case, islam allows this muslim to break the law (drinking ) in order to save his life. But there is one condition: he shouldn't drink till he gets tipsy !! He should drink as much as he can save his life! 3. Fouad claims that this 'principle' is from islam: ( If one chooses the lesser of two evils). But the close translation of the expression to the origin is :( If you HAVE TO choose between two evils, choose the less evil).For example, a muslim finds himself in a situation where he must choose between making adultery or killing an innocent life. The ' good' choice is adultery!! And bear in mind that Fouad's 'answers' are irrelevant. Michael asks ( does islam allows a muslim to lie to a non-muslim to make a positive picture of islam?). But Fouad comes with funny, erroneous answers!! Fouad claims he quotes the Quran , from (Surat Al-Maida 89:5). But the real and meaninful translation of the verse is this: (( [89] Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths. Thus doth Allah make clear to you His Signs, that ye may be grateful. )) Fouad's next ' translation' is a distortion of the real meaning of (Surat Al-Nahl 106:16). This is what the Quranic verse very approximately says: (( [106] Anyone who, after accepting Faith in Allah, utters Unbelief, - except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty)). It means that if a non-muslim FORCES a muslim to abandon islam or be killed, in this case the muslim should PRETEND he has forsaken his religion but within his heart he still believes in islam! Edited by Marrakoshi99, May 11 2009, 09:00 AM.
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