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Virginia Tech Massacre; Another school shooting.
Topic Started: Apr 16 2007, 09:32 AM (2,408 Views)
Margaret28
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Sorry to post again, but here's some new information.. The Asian shooter was Cho-Sung Hui, a 23-year old South Korean alien, and was undergrad senior with an english major. He living on campus in Harper Hall. His body was discovered with victims in a classroom. Ballistics tests confirmed that one of the weapons found in Norris Hall was used in both shootings. While the suspect for the first shooting (who was an acquaintance of the ex-girlfriend) was being questioned, the second shooting began at Norris Hall.
The college will resume classes tomorrow, but teachers have the option of taking off for the week. Norris Hall will be closed for the remainder of the semester, and counseling is available for students.
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Now in day two, the hindsight second-guessing journalist's game of pointing fingers begins in earnest. "They should have done this, they should have done that, to prevent what happened." Soon, it will be the university's fault, rather than the madman shooter, who after all, was "distraught, and if only someone had made sure his bed clothes were clean, this may not have happened." Crap. As if it could be prevented out of the blue.
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Apr 17 2007, 11:17 AM
Now in day two, the hindsight second-guessing journalist's game of pointing fingers begins in earnest. "They should have done this, they should have done that, to prevent what happened." Soon, it will be the university's fault, rather than the madman shooter, who after all, was "distraught, and if only someone had made sure his bed clothes were clean, this may not have happened." Crap. As if it could be prevented out of the blue.

Yeah the media acts as if they would've done better. With the open nature of a college campus, it's almost impossible to prevent a nutcase, especially if the person is a student, from committing a crime like this. My big problem with the media is their senseless questions they ask people. "Are the deaths of your fellow students tough to absorb?" Who asks a student or anybody that!?
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a college campus is a tough thing to control, i mean it's so open! it's not like a high school where lockers can be searched or metal detectors can be set up. They have really increased security at my college, but i don't really see how any nut job like that could be stopped. Imagine what would have happened if he went to a school with 600-some kids in a classroom instead of a few dozen. Lets hope there aren't any copycat murders after this.
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Apr 17 2007, 01:04 PM
a college campus is a tough thing to control, i mean it's so open! it's not like a high school where lockers can be searched or metal detectors can be set up. They have really increased security at my college, but i don't really see how any nut job like that could be stopped. Imagine what would have happened if he went to a school with 600-some kids in a classroom instead of a few dozen. Lets hope there aren't any copycat murders after this.

Yeah, we both go to even bigger schools. :crazy:
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Apr 17 2007, 03:45 AM
Watch this be blamed on 300 or some shit related to the media.

"He was said to bee yelling "FOOOOR SPARTAAAA" when shooting.

OK, this is NO laughing matter.


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Apr 17 2007, 08:17 AM
Now in day two, the hindsight second-guessing journalist's game of pointing fingers begins in earnest. "They should have done this, they should have done that, to prevent what happened." Soon, it will be the university's fault, rather than the madman shooter, who after all, was "distraught, and if only someone had made sure his bed clothes were clean, this may not have happened." Crap. As if it could be prevented out of the blue.

Now I wouldn't be so quick to bash the media for what they're doing. I mean, after all, the people, students, parents, and everybody else, want answers.

Personally, I think there should have been more done to let the kids know that two people were murdered in the dorms earlier that day. I mean, really, if more than two-hour late e-mails were sent, I think that perhaps lives would have been spared.
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Now in day two, the hindsight second-guessing journalist's game of pointing fingers begins in earnest.  "They should have done this, they should have done that, to prevent what happened."  Soon, it will be the university's fault, rather than the madman shooter, who after all, was "distraught, and if only someone had made sure his bed clothes were clean, this may not have happened."  Crap.  As if it could be prevented out of the blue.

Now I wouldn't be so quick to bash the media for what they're doing. I mean, after all, the people, students, parents, and everybody else, want answers.

Personally, I think there should have been more done to let the kids know that two people were murdered in the dorms earlier that day. I mean, really, if more than two-hour late e-mails were sent, I think that perhaps lives would have been spared.

The 911 call allegedly happened around 7:30, it takes time to get over there and confirm everything. Meanwhile, class starts at 8. The majority people would already be en route to class. It would be kind of hard (at least I think) to get all the people to leave and walk around in the open, especially considering the alleged killer was still on the loose.

I'm not justifying their actions, I'm just saying it's easy to be the armchair Dean now but back then it was hard to sort through something like this.
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There's some really disturbing information I just read then about the killer. It's too long to post so here's the link: http://www.miamiherald.com/457/story/79044.html

Crazy shit. It Reminds me of the tapes the suicide bombers make before they blow themselves up. Scary.
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Anger over Aussie's V-Tech massacre game

May 16, 2007 - 7:39PM

A 21-year-old Sydney man has created the first known computer game based on the recent shooting spree at Virginia Tech university in the US, sparking a wave of criticism.

The game follows Cho Seung-hui's killing spree at Virginia Tech in April, in which he killed 32 people before turning a gun on himself.

The game's creator, Ryan Lambourn, who lives in Sydney's west, says he won't remove the game from his own website or seek to have it removed from amateur game sharing site Newgrounds.com.

Called V-Tech Rampage, the game can be freely downloaded from either site and has made headlines in Australia as well causing a stir on a number of blogs and online news sites around the world.

Mr Lambourn on Wednesday backpedalled on previous demands for money in exchange for the game's deletion, describing the ransom as a joke.

He had said on his website googumproduce.com that he would only remove V-Tech Rampage from the Newgrounds website if he received a $US1,000 ($A1,200) "donation".

For $US2,000 ($A2,400) he would remove it from his own website and for $US3,000 ($A3,600) he would apologise for the stunt.

He said no one had taken him up on his offer.

"That's exactly the point I was trying to prove," Mr Lambourn said.

"These people talk and talk and are angry and are telling me `you have to take it down, it should be taken down, you gotta take it down' and no one's even come near it because they'd rather talk about it."

The unemployed man said he created the game for "laughs" and that he had previously composed music relating to other events such as Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and the death of Crocodile Hunter Steve Irwin last year.

He said the game was supposed to provide an insight into the killer's mindset.

"What he did was caused by something," he said.

"From what I do know about him, from his plays, from what he did to prepare for it, he's very human, fragile.

"From what I can tell he's probably having a hard home life."

Mr Lambourn said he would not take down the game under any circumstances, including if he received a request from the victims' families.

"I'm afraid not," he said, but added: "I hope they'd never do that."

He said he empathised with the killer and that he, like Cho, had been a victim of abuse and bullying at high school.

Mr Lambourn was born in Australia but grew up in the US before returning to Australia when he was 14.

He said he left school in the eighth grade having been bullied and abused at several institutions in Texas, Maine, New Jersey, New York and North Carolina.

He described himself as a self-taught animator who was supported financially by his mother who still lives in the US.

V-Tech Rampage resembles another production that followed the Columbine massacre in 1999, in which two students killed 12 people before turning their weapons on themselves in a shooting spree at the Colorado high school.

Daniele Ledonne, who made Super Columbine Massacre RPG (SCMRPG), said he was "torn" over whether he should distance his game from V-Tech Rampage and its creator.

Mr Ledonne said SCMRPG was never a for-profit endeavour and that he had never demanded cash in exchange for the game's removal from the internet.

Meanwhile, Newgrounds is yet to remove the game but has created a forum for users to discuss the issue.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Anger-...8995231668.html
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Anger over Aussie's V-Tech massacre game

May 16, 2007 - 7:39PM

A 21-year-old Sydney man has created the first known computer game based on the recent shooting spree at Virginia Tech university in the US, sparking a wave of criticism.

The game follows Cho Seung-hui's killing spree at Virginia Tech in April, in which he killed 32 people before turning a gun on himself.

The game's creator, Ryan Lambourn, who lives in Sydney's west, says he won't remove the game from his own website or seek to have it removed from amateur game sharing site Newgrounds.com.

Called V-Tech Rampage, the game can be freely downloaded from either site and has made headlines in Australia as well causing a stir on a number of blogs and online news sites around the world.

Mr Lambourn on Wednesday backpedalled on previous demands for money in exchange for the game's deletion, describing the ransom as a joke.

He had said on his website googumproduce.com that he would only remove V-Tech Rampage from the Newgrounds website if he received a $US1,000 ($A1,200) "donation".

For $US2,000 ($A2,400) he would remove it from his own website and for $US3,000 ($A3,600) he would apologise for the stunt.

He said no one had taken him up on his offer.

"That's exactly the point I was trying to prove," Mr Lambourn said.

"These people talk and talk and are angry and are telling me `you have to take it down, it should be taken down, you gotta take it down' and no one's even come near it because they'd rather talk about it."

The unemployed man said he created the game for "laughs" and that he had previously composed music relating to other events such as Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and the death of Crocodile Hunter Steve Irwin last year.

He said the game was supposed to provide an insight into the killer's mindset.

"What he did was caused by something," he said.

"From what I do know about him, from his plays, from what he did to prepare for it, he's very human, fragile.

"From what I can tell he's probably having a hard home life."

Mr Lambourn said he would not take down the game under any circumstances, including if he received a request from the victims' families.

"I'm afraid not," he said, but added: "I hope they'd never do that."

He said he empathised with the killer and that he, like Cho, had been a victim of abuse and bullying at high school.

Mr Lambourn was born in Australia but grew up in the US before returning to Australia when he was 14.

He said he left school in the eighth grade having been bullied and abused at several institutions in Texas, Maine, New Jersey, New York and North Carolina.

He described himself as a self-taught animator who was supported financially by his mother who still lives in the US.

V-Tech Rampage resembles another production that followed the Columbine massacre in 1999, in which two students killed 12 people before turning their weapons on themselves in a shooting spree at the Colorado high school.

Daniele Ledonne, who made Super Columbine Massacre RPG (SCMRPG), said he was "torn" over whether he should distance his game from V-Tech Rampage and its creator.

Mr Ledonne said SCMRPG was never a for-profit endeavour and that he had never demanded cash in exchange for the game's removal from the internet.

Meanwhile, Newgrounds is yet to remove the game but has created a forum for users to discuss the issue.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Anger-...8995231668.html

I saw that on the news the other day. Why do people get so uptight about these things? Yeah, it's tragic, but people are going to make jokes about it whether you like it or not. If you don't like the game, don't play it, but don't complain about the fact that it exists because chances are everyone who is complaining about it now has at some point in their lives done something to offend someone else.
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Why do people get up tight about these things? Arn't you a shining torch for our country. Imagine if this had happened when you are at uni next year.

It's not being uptight its jsut the fact that people are constantly exploiting people's misery to make a quick buck or name for themself. It's not even a joke. I mean a joke has to have an ounce of humor to it. This isn't even black humor, its just stupid. There also has to be time inbetween for people to firslty get over the shock. I know humor can help the process but that isn't even funny. It's sick, macabre and just in terrible taste.

Also I am sure that everyone who has complained has said something in bad taste before. However, they have not published something so accesible and made with the obvious intent to get attention and to profit finacially or get their 15 minutes from it. People, especially the families, friends and students of Virgina Tech have every fucking right to make a deal and so do other people who also see how disrespectful this is to them.
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