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CNN Airs U.S. Soldiers Being Killed in Iraq
Topic Started: Oct 23 2006, 02:34 PM (1,179 Views)
etphonehomeyo
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do the people who support this war honestly believe that one day we are going to walk out of iraq as victors?
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donnacorleone
Oct 26 2006, 05:34 PM

I don't think ANYONE here has implied that the U.S. is the reason or the cause of the violence in Iraq.

Actually, ALOT DO believe that. Especially the nut cases who live there. There are the other people who believe we are there for good, but just like anything in LIFE, its half and half. And just because people express their belief that WAR is wrong, why get discouraged?? Why'd you go to IRAQ in the first place?? Stay the fucking course. I agree that war is wrong, it always is, but like FDR said: "It is common sense to take a method and try it. If it fails, admit it frankly and try another. But above all, try something." and the U.S. has the power to "crush this bug" once and for all. its just annoying that W D 40 isn't making sure that's getting done.
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Oct 26 2006, 04:12 PM
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sure the family(ies) of the soldiers may be outraged... or are they? I'm curious to know exactly what the familes think. Has anyone heard or seen any interviews with them?


come on. is that really your argument? even if the family has not expressed outrage over this video, i think the soldier has a right to not have his death used by the media or some people to make a point about politics.
plus, this video was aired BEFORE the family was even informed of their son's death. that is just so sad. i'm pretty POSITIVE that the family isnt pleased, even if they havent made a formal statement.

Actually I wasn't making an argument at all. I was asking a legitimate question. I haven't seen any interviews with the families, so I was wondering if any of you had.
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This may help people go out and sign up for the Army, because watching a soldier die might infuriate them to go out and fight those assholes.

Or it could discourage the war effort by showing the evils of combat.
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Nov 2 2006, 05:37 PM
This may help people go out and sign up for the Army, because watching a soldier die might infuriate them to go out and fight those assholes.

Or it could discourage the war effort by showing the evils of combat.

Yeah right. If you saw roofers falling off of hard to roof buildings, would feel overwhelmed to roof the unroofable? I don't know about you, but I'd stay the hell on the ground.
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well we're all different i guess
some people roof hard to roof buildings even though its dangerous (lol my dads job is to roof dangerously steep buildings, not even kidding)
and some people risk their lives to fight for their country, even though they KNOW its dangerous
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Nov 2 2006, 05:51 PM
well we're all different i guess
some people roof hard to roof buildings even though its dangerous (lol my dads job is to roof dangerously steep buildings, not even kidding) 
and some people risk their lives to fight for their country, even though they KNOW its dangerous

And that's why there are statues of those people, books written about them, and elementary schools named for the. Most people, I will say, that are in Iraq, are not there because they care about the Iraqi people's liberty, but because the Army or the Marines are paying for their college, or to make money to send home, or for whatever.

Of the like, 3 people who I've met who joined the armed services weren't doing it out of their patriotic kind hearts. They didn't see a better route.
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Nov 2 2006, 09:05 PM
Most people, I will say, that are in Iraq, are not there because they care about the Iraqi people's liberty, but because the Army or the Marines are paying for their college, or to make money to send home, or for whatever.

they might not care when they first get there but they start to care after awhile. jsut talk to soemone that's been there i'll bet you they give something of there's to an iraqi.
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i know quite a few people over there, and a large majority seem to be actually doing it for patriotic reasons and not just financial.
many sign up for 2nd, 3rd tours of duty, which wouldnt make sense if they were doing it only for financial gain. they get paid by the military, overseas or not.
many people i know cant wait to go overseas to Afghanistan or Iraq, and i dont think thats for their own personal gain.
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i have a cousin from virginia over there. i think he's there because his family doesn't have any money and he probably doesn't know what else to do. there's not really any jobs there (my family is from a pretty backwoods part of virginia. my mom's parents moved their side of the family to michigan in the '60s).
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I'm telling you, of all the people I've met, my dad and uncles in Vietnam, and my cousins in the Middle East, they were all doing it because of the military benefits.

Plus, when the military comes to recruit at my school, or in front of Wal-Mart, or at the mall, they look for kids and say "Do you know what you're doing after high school? Are you going to college? Do you want to go to college but can't afford it?" Never do I hear them trying to convince people to go and risk kill or be killed out of the kindness of their patriotic litte hearts.

Not to say there aren't any like that, but I think if we relied totally on patriots, then our armed forces would heavily decline in size.
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Nov 3 2006, 01:46 PM
I'm telling you, of all the people I've met, my dad and uncles in Vietnam, and my cousins in the Middle East, they were all doing it because of the military benefits.

Plus, when the military comes to recruit at my school, or in front of Wal-Mart, or at the mall, they look for kids and say "Do you know what you're doing after high school? Are you going to college? Do you want to go to college but can't afford it?" Never do I hear them trying to convince people to go and risk kill or be killed out of the kindness of their patriotic litte hearts.

Not to say there aren't any like that, but I think if we relied totally on patriots, then our armed forces would heavily decline in size.

but that goes for anything! i don't go to my job becasue i like it i go for the money. everyone who does anything wants something out of it but once you get into something you start gettign other things otu of it.
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Nov 3 2006, 01:34 PM
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Nov 3 2006, 01:46 PM
I'm telling you, of all the people I've met, my dad and uncles in Vietnam, and my cousins in the Middle East, they were all doing it because of the military benefits.

Plus, when the military comes to recruit at my school, or in front of Wal-Mart, or at the mall, they look for kids and say "Do you know what you're doing after high school? Are you going to college? Do you want to go to college but can't afford it?" Never do I hear them trying to convince people to go and risk kill or be killed out of the kindness of their patriotic litte hearts.

Not to say there aren't any like that, but I think if we relied totally on patriots, then our armed forces would heavily decline in size.

but that goes for anything! i don't go to my job becasue i like it i go for the money. everyone who does anything wants something out of it but once you get into something you start gettign other things otu of it.

I know, and on topic, the people who are seeing the deaths, those who are considering going to Iraq, will be discouraged. And if they're not, their loves ones will be. I just doubt it will overwhelm them to go to Iraq for patriotic revenge.
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