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| CNN Airs U.S. Soldiers Being Killed in Iraq | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 23 2006, 02:34 PM (1,180 Views) | |
| donnacorleone | Oct 23 2006, 02:34 PM Post #1 |
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I heard this on the radio a little while ago. I had no idea this even happened nor have I seen the footage and I watch CNN, so I don't know when they showed it. Apparently they aired footage of American soldiers being shot and killed by snipers in Iraq and now there is a big controversy stirring. Many people are pissed off at CNN for being so "irresponsible." Have you seen the footage? What is your opinion on this matter? I personally hate to see someone get killed. I can't think of anything worse in the world, but the reality is that it is happening. Everyday. I don't that it's right to show it, b/c the person or persons being killed do have family somewhere here in America who have to deal with seeing it, but I don't know that CNN is in the wrong for showing it either. It sort of reminds me of during the Vietnam war when the media showed all the U.S. soldiers in the body bags. It took something like that to really open Americans' eyes, you know? Anyway, I'm curious what your opinions are. p.s. - I tried to find a legitimate news article on this topic, but all Google was returning were articles that were biased one way or the other, so I decided against posting any links to the articles. If you're interested enough, you'll search this topic on your own anyway... |
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| etphonehomeyo | Oct 23 2006, 04:32 PM Post #2 |
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i never saw this, but i don't think it a completely bad thing that they showed it. as you said, during vietnam it opened people's eyes. if this is what it takes to get people pissed about what's happening over there, so be it. it's too easy for everyone to ignore. it's not going to end until everyone is beaten over the head with it and demand for it to stop. |
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| ihateguitarists | Oct 23 2006, 04:46 PM Post #3 |
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I agree. I saw it when they first aired it. I was in the library at school and they made it clear that it was not an easy decision to make, but they had decided to show it for the reason (more or less) that you said. They said, and I'm paraphrasin here, that people would never fully grasp the depth or gravity of American bloodshed in Iraq until they saw it. And it worked. I'll admit I was filled was fury and I did shed a few tears. Here's the video by the way. I must say, it actually doesn't show that much as far as bloody gore or anything like that. But, watch with discretion. |
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| heybulldog | Oct 23 2006, 05:05 PM Post #4 |
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i dont think people are oblivious to the casualties in Iraq and i dont really see what good this does.. I just feel bad for this guy's family. How would you like your husband/brother/son/ boyfriend's death to be used by the media or other people to make a point. im obviously going to be outnumbered in this. |
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| TheSmashedGuitar | Oct 23 2006, 05:10 PM Post #5 |
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But they use this all the time, just the other way around to get stuff across. They show videos of us boming them to show we're previaling in the fight. And more people are becoming aware I think, but their are still some who still really aren't aware of what's going on. My friend's cousin died in action last wekk, it was really horrbile. I'm sure the family wouldn't want it to be used as footage to glorify the war, but to remind people how atrocious war can be. Like I said, they're now syaing "Whee look at this! Let's kill those fuckers for what they did ahahah!" They're just showing us the reality of war. |
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| ihateguitarists | Oct 23 2006, 05:13 PM Post #6 |
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It doesn't set in as well hearing that 83 U.S. soldiers have died this month, it just doesn't. I guarantee you that if we saw on TV, the death of every single American soldier, if we saw all 83 of them die, the war would be over before Bush left office. |
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| TheSmashedGuitar | Oct 23 2006, 05:14 PM Post #7 |
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Don't be saying that. Qutting the war now would be a terrible idea. Honestly, am I the only non-Republican here who thinsk that? Huh?
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| ihateguitarists | Oct 23 2006, 05:15 PM Post #8 |
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No, I don't think we should cut and run. I think we should finish up there, but I'm saying, the number of anti-war citizens in the U.S. would skyrocket if we saw every soldier die. |
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| TheSmashedGuitar | Oct 23 2006, 05:19 PM Post #9 |
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I watched the Amarah story on the news the other day in Dateline format. I know that We Malcontents absorb a lot of depressing commentary in digitalized text, but .. jesus, the visuals. Most of the Amarah footage was plumes of smoke, bombed shells of buildings, and flaming vehicles. More interesting, though, was the footage of Iraqi looters. It turns out that the United States maintained a number of contractor and military stocked bases that we transferred over to the Iraqi government a few days ago. The bases were immediately ransacked down to the floor tiles, and the Iraqi police and authorities did nothing. Some days later, the Sadr fellows effortlessly demolished the governmental infrastructure and ruled the city as their own. Maysan and Anbar provinces -- entire provinces -- are in this state: there is no American authority, nor is there any Governmental authority. They are run by militias hostile to American presence and sworn to the destruction of the present Iraqi government. Lawlessness remains, even in Baghdad: being outed as a governmental employee is a death sentence; even the clerks required for the simplest management of governmental tasks must live in silence and barricades. Men are hung from lightpoles for any suspected anti-Sharia practices. Women are shot if they aren't wearing full veils. Men are killed for wearing shorts. Every day, scores of Iraqis are found in piles of executed corpses, grim reminders of the sectarian butchering that's become so commonplace as to not elicit much note in the daily news. This last event has left me inches away from making an educated guess that Iraq is simply half-past fucked, and that the new government will not succeed, and the nation will fracture. But, I have hope. I wan't us to win, but we just need to change our stratgey; it just doesn't seem to be working. |
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| etphonehomeyo | Oct 23 2006, 05:36 PM Post #10 |
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as has been said, hearing and seeing are two different things. people hear in passing the number that died for that day and go on with their business. if you see it, you can't get it our of your head. it makes it more real. also, in a perfect world we would be able to finish and get out. but, we are never going to win this. at some point or another, i bet we're just going to leave (to some extent). we might as well do it as quickly as we can before more guys die. |
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| heybulldog | Oct 23 2006, 05:39 PM Post #11 |
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ok so ASIDE from "we shouldnt/ should be in Iraq", do you think the media should show videos of american soldiers dying. not just "bodybags" like in vietnam...but actually being killed. |
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| etphonehomeyo | Oct 23 2006, 05:44 PM Post #12 |
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i don't see how videos of soldiers dying and whether or not we should be in iraq are two different issues. it's all connected. also, vietnam was a different era. people weren't so sensitized to violence. we see people being blown to bits in movies all the time. body bags wouldn't be as powerful today as it was then. edit did vietnam era tv show people getting killed? i'm not sure. also, people have seen pictures of dead soldiers since the civil war. yes, this is the actual act of them dying, but as i said, it's a different time. |
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| Kira | Oct 23 2006, 05:51 PM Post #13 |
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| heybulldog | Oct 23 2006, 06:03 PM Post #14 |
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i'm not saying you HAVE to separate the issues, i was just wondering what people thought GENERALLY about showing people being killed on the news, and then if politics/ your views on Iraq have any affect on your opinion. |
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| etphonehomeyo | Oct 23 2006, 06:35 PM Post #15 |
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well, generally, no, people shouldn't be shown getting killed on tv. if someone got stabbed randomly, there is no reason to show that. soldiers are a different story, that's not general. of course my opinion on iraq effects that. |
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