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Who is God?
Topic Started: Oct 8 2006, 09:25 AM (964 Views)
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Mhall1401
Jan 3 2007, 10:42 PM
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Jan 3 2007, 10:35 PM
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Jan 3 2007, 10:14 PM
FlamingPieMan
Dec 7 2006, 08:19 PM
Other...There IS no god. IMO

how do you know?

Science.




But really, you can't prove a univeral negaitve, so I don't really know. Though I am fairly certain. :cigar:


I am a Scientific Materialist. I beleive matter is all there is to the Universe (no spiritual realm) and that natural laws acting on matter explains everything about the universe.

I would believe all of that, but the fact is that our bodies are so precise...everything is connected perfectly and everything serves a purpose. I don't think it would just come out like that without someone making it happen. :cigar:

Ahhh, but everything is not perfect and serve a purpose. For example, Vestigal Organs serve no purpose to animals and are but remnants of evolutionary ancestors. The Appendix in Humans (once used to digest cellulose in herbovore ancestors) no longer works. We have a tail bone which is the remant of a lost tail. Getting Goosebumps is a vestigal response to a stimulus of fright for when our ancestors had more hair and it would make us appear bigger to predators. Other example could be a bee's wing (horribly designed for flight),even whales have vestigal legs. By saying this process was controlled be a diety, he sure did show some poor planning. :cigar:

We, along with every other life form on this earth, are a product of billions of years of evolution from one prokaryotic single cell organism. Now you can assign this whole process to a diety (Intelligent Design) and i can't argue with that. You beleive what you believe. I believe that once the conditions were right for life to begin on this planet, (see Miller-Urey Experiment and abiotic synthesis) and first organism formed , it was no longer random chance that brought us here, but the long, slow and inevitable process of evolution. It wasn't chance that our bodies are so complex nor was it in the hands of a God, it is the result of a scientific process working over billions of years. That is what I believe.
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Jan 3 2007, 10:42 PM
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Jan 3 2007, 10:35 PM
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FlamingPieMan
Dec 7 2006, 08:19 PM
Other...There IS no god. IMO

how do you know?

Science.




But really, you can't prove a univeral negaitve, so I don't really know. Though I am fairly certain. :cigar:


I am a Scientific Materialist. I beleive matter is all there is to the Universe (no spiritual realm) and that natural laws acting on matter explains everything about the universe.

I would believe all of that, but the fact is that our bodies are so precise...everything is connected perfectly and everything serves a purpose. I don't think it would just come out like that without someone making it happen. :cigar:

Ahhh, but everything is not perfect and serve a purpose. For example, Vestigal Organs serve no purpose to animals and are but remnants of evolutionary ancestors. The Appendix in Humans (once used to digest cellulose in herbovore ancestors) no longer works. We have a tail bone which is the remant of a lost tail. Getting Goosebumps is a vestigal response to a stimulus of fright for when our ancestors had more hair and it would make us appear bigger to predators. Other example could be a bee's wing (horribly designed for flight),even whales have vestigal legs. By saying this process was controlled be a diety, he sure did show some poor planning. :cigar:

We, along with every other life form on this earth, are a product of billions of years of evolution from one prokaryotic single cell organism. Now you can assign this whole process to a diety (Intelligent Design) and i can't argue with that. You beleive what you believe. I believe that once the conditions were right for life to begin on this planet, (see Miller-Urey Experiment and abiotic synthesis) and first organism formed , it was no longer random chance that brought us here, but the long, slow and inevitable process of evolution. It wasn't chance that our bodies are so complex nor was it in the hands of a God, it is the result of a scientific process working over billions of years. That is what I believe.

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Jan 3 2007, 10:42 PM
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Jan 3 2007, 10:35 PM
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Jan 3 2007, 10:14 PM
FlamingPieMan
Dec 7 2006, 08:19 PM
Other...There IS no god. IMO

how do you know?

Science.




But really, you can't prove a univeral negaitve, so I don't really know. Though I am fairly certain. :cigar:


I am a Scientific Materialist. I beleive matter is all there is to the Universe (no spiritual realm) and that natural laws acting on matter explains everything about the universe.

I would believe all of that, but the fact is that our bodies are so precise...everything is connected perfectly and everything serves a purpose. I don't think it would just come out like that without someone making it happen. :cigar:

Ahhh, but everything is not perfect and serve a purpose. For example, Vestigal Organs serve no purpose to animals and are but remnants of evolutionary ancestors. The Appendix in Humans (once used to digest cellulose in herbovore ancestors) no longer works. We have a tail bone which is the remant of a lost tail. Getting Goosebumps is a vestigal response to a stimulus of fright for when our ancestors had more hair and it would make us appear bigger to predators. Other example could be a bee's wing (horribly designed for flight),even whales have vestigal legs. By saying this process was controlled be a diety, he sure did show some poor planning. :cigar:

We, along with every other life form on this earth, are a product of billions of years of evolution from one prokaryotic single cell organism. Now you can assign this whole process to a diety (Intelligent Design) and i can't argue with that. You beleive what you believe. I believe that once the conditions were right for life to begin on this planet, (see Miller-Urey Experiment and abiotic synthesis) and first organism formed , it was no longer random chance that brought us here, but the long, slow and inevitable process of evolution. It wasn't chance that our bodies are so complex nor was it in the hands of a God, it is the result of a scientific process working over billions of years. That is what I believe.

-thinks- hows that saying go. Something like "Couldn't it be the answer to how and not why?"
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FlamingPieMan
Jan 3 2007, 11:22 PM
It wasn't chance that our bodies are so complex nor was it in the hands of a God, it is the result of a scientific process working over billions of years. That is what I believe.

Some might reply that God primarily resides in another, much finer dimension than our five senses are privy to, and mostly His influence is felt here in our own dimension (the physical) only represented by our known "laws of nature". Also, God's "time" may not be our time, perhaps in scale, and billions of years are maybe only a few to the creative force. The universe is likely bigger and more complex than can be imagined by puny man and his science, that only a matter of a few centuries ago was ignorant of the vast microbial world undreamed of and leeches were applied to remove "unclean humors" that caused disease, the world was flat, and the sun and moon revolved around the earth. Science continually evolves, often superceding that which was "scientifically" accepted only years before. Whole paradigms of reality keep changing.

Most would think the shortest distance between two points was a straight line. Well, the latest scientific thinking due to new understanding of the space-time continuum, it's actually a curved line! And don't forget the significance of "dark matter". That is, until science figures out a way to include it in the accepted scientific thinking on how it relates to currently known theories of the nature of the universe. New mathematical theories even now are coming to grips with 'fuzzy logic' and other properties that defy an exact answer we expect from mathematics like 2 + 2 = 4. Science is constantly discovering aspects of the universe that defy what is currently known, and the universe is more 'fluid' and less "concrete" with each passing discovery. "Black holes" in space also defy any known explanation, other than their weirdness. Weird because modern science doesn't have a clue. They undoubtedly have an explanation that perhaps science will one day be able to answer. Until then I think they are portals leading to heaven. Maybe hell.

Now where are those leeches? I have a headache.
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