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Vietnam War; Pointless, or not?
Topic Started: Aug 9 2006, 11:07 PM (781 Views)
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I personally think that the Vietnam War was seriously one of the most pointless and pathetic excuses for a war. How did it come about? We the United States, were trying to push our ideology on another part of the world (Surprise Surprise) Not only that, but we lost THOUSANDS of men, just to pull out, and have the south fall to the north. We came in there to stop communism, and we pulled out, what the hell is that? We basically accomplished nothing, and lost thousands and thousands of men. Good going team USA!
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I believe it was pointless. The US army got there, got ass-kicked, and in the end the south DID fall to the north. I think the US army lost around 60 000 men in Vietnam...
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whatever it was, we sure got some great movies out of it 0_o
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Yeah the USA does have a habit of sticking its nose in other peoples affairs. Like I understand that the French lsot to vietnam but did the USA really have to go in and try and show them up, are they that desperate to prove they are better than the French?

I can't call it pointless, that is too disrespectful to the families of the people who died, who wants to say that your son, brother or father died for nothing. They died, being conscripted or voulenterring, doing what they were told to or thought they should be doing at the hand of the government. They died thinkign they were protecting their families, their loved ones , their country and the freedom of the USA. Even though the war was a moral atrocity, to call it pointless is unexplicably disrespectful to the people who died so, as they were told, you could be free.

I feel for the veterans of this war and msot latter wars. People dont give them the respect of the WW1 or WW2 or even the Korean veterans. They were doing the same thing for the same reasons basically. Different cirumstances, but they were fighting for the USA.

At least they did pull out.
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Aug 10 2006, 10:34 PM
Yeah the USA does have a habit of sticking its nose in other peoples affairs. Like I understand that the French lsot to vietnam but did the USA really have to go in and try and show them up, are they that desperate to prove they are better than the French?

I can't call it pointless, that is too disrespectful to the families of the people who died, who wants to say that your son, brother or father died for nothing. They died, being conscripted or voulenterring, doing what they were told to or thought they should be doing at the hand of the government. They died thinkign they were protecting their families, their loved ones , their country and the freedom of the USA. Even though the war was a moral atrocity, to call it pointless is unexplicably disrespectful to the people who died so, as they were told, you could be free.

I feel for the veterans of this war and msot latter wars. People dont give them the respect of the WW1 or WW2 or even the Korean veterans. They were doing the same thing for the same reasons basically. Different cirumstances, but they were fighting for the USA.

At least they did pull out.

Well, when i said pointless, I meant that in the respect that we didn't really accomplish anything. Yes, I respect the people who went in and fought for our country, even though I disagree with the reason, but I still think the war's outcome proved that we really didn't to much of anything, besides lose thousandsof troops
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Aug 10 2006, 11:43 AM
whatever it was, we sure got some great movies out of it 0_o

Particularly Full Metal Jacket. I never get tired of that movie.
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We went in there hoping to achieve something, and got nothing done. It's a real shame that so many people died with the hopes of reaching a goal, but that their death was in vain.
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The only good thing that came as a result of Vietnam was the protest music and all the counterculture and such.
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psychedeliclucifersam
Aug 11 2006, 01:34 AM
Yeah the USA does have a habit of sticking its nose in other peoples affairs. Like I understand that the French lsot to vietnam but did the USA really have to go in and try and show them up, are they that desperate to prove they are better than the French?

I can't call it pointless, that is too disrespectful to the families of the people who died, who wants to say that your son, brother or father died for nothing. They died, being conscripted or voulenterring, doing what they were told to or thought they should be doing at the hand of the government. They died thinkign they were protecting their families, their loved ones , their country and the freedom of the USA. Even though the war was a moral atrocity, to call it pointless is unexplicably disrespectful to the people who died so, as they were told, you could be free.

I feel for the veterans of this war and msot latter wars. People dont give them the respect of the WW1 or WW2 or even the Korean veterans. They were doing the same thing for the same reasons basically. Different cirumstances, but they were fighting for the USA.

At least they did pull out.

Yeah it wasn't pointless. The point was to fight communism and help the south. Was it a good point? That I doubt. However, it happened, we learned hopefully from our mistakes, especially how people mistreated the soldiers when they returned home calling them baby killers and stuff. That is awful. Anyway, we didn't really get our "ass kicked" as someone said. The Viet Cong had far more casualties, but we were fighting a political war without motivation so we didn't gain the territory we should've to put them away. Eventually, thanks to Nixon, we withdrew.
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Yeah, we actually kicked their asses but left before the job was done. They had far more casualties.
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Aug 28 2006, 08:53 PM
Yeah, we actually kicked their asses but left before the job was done. They had far more casualties.

Thank goodness ONE other person in the world knows that...
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Aug 28 2006, 10:07 PM
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Yeah, we actually kicked their asses but left before the job was done. They had far more casualties.

Thank goodness ONE other person in the world knows that...

Yeah, because of the small amount of regular posters around here I tend to get that feeling a lot about other topics. Since there's only a few people around, there's not as many people to agree with you.
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Aug 29 2006, 10:54 PM
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Aug 28 2006, 10:07 PM
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Yeah, we actually kicked their asses but left before the job was done. They had far more casualties.

Thank goodness ONE other person in the world knows that...

Yeah, because of the small amount of regular posters around here I tend to get that feeling a lot about other topics. Since there's only a few people around, there's not as many people to agree with you.

Yeah well I didn't really debate this too much here, and I'm hardly ever here, but even with my friends we disagree on this all the time.
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I guess they figure that the people spitting on the vets MUST've known what they were doing and that it MUST've been for good reason. But they're wrong.
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i do think this war was pointless. it seems in the past, the u.s. had real reasons to go to war and this was the start of the pointless fighting.
who cares if we eventually killed more of their people? that doesn't make it okay. think about all of our people who died. was it worth it? no. ask most people walking down the street what the vietnam war was about. they won't know. that should show right there that it wasn't worth it. with all of those lives lost, if it was for a cause that really mattered, everyone one know. the number of people who died on the other side isn't the issue at hand.
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