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Socialism v. Communism
Topic Started: Apr 26 2006, 05:21 PM (1,271 Views)
bec_walker
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Mar 29 2007, 09:19 AM
Yep.

Anyway, did you know that if you grow an apple tree in Cuba, the government cuts it down or sticks you in jail? This is because you're not supposed to have more apples than anyone else, and they naturally assume you won't share or that you'll sell it to the people in your neighborhood who have money shipped to them by their relatives in Miami. Nevermind that it's almost impossible to survive in Cuba without breaking the law someway or another to get food. But they don't care about that, everyone has to be equally fucked.

Any political ideal that doesn't allow me to have a fucking apple tree in my backyard is sick and twisted.

When I went to Cuba on the first night we went and sat in a cafe with loads of locals. These two friendly guys were sat next to us who spoke English pretty well so we started talking to em. One of them was pretty drunk. I asked him what Cuba was like and he started mouthing off about how much he hated Castro and how much the country sucked. His friend got really panicked nad stood up, trying to make him calm down, then he explained that you could get into serious trouble if you knocked Castro in public. There were armed police on every street corner to see to this.

The next day we spoke to the person at reception and hired a driver they knew to take us round and show us the sights. When he arrived we started talking to him and he explained that he was actually a doctor, but he earned more money being a taxi driver for tourists, who pay him in American dollars, than as a Cuban doctor where he gets paid a basic wage in Cuban money. That pretty much summed up the country. It was fairly sad and depressing really.

Once we drove out of Havana and into the country he showed us the house where Che Guevara's best mate lived. It was this massive fuck off mansion in the middle of nowhere with a swimming pool, which compared to the shacks ordinary Cubans were living in was just disgusting.
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Mar 29 2007, 02:53 PM
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Mar 29 2007, 09:19 AM
Yep.

Anyway, did you know that if you grow an apple tree in Cuba, the government cuts it down or sticks you in jail? This is because you're not supposed to have more apples than anyone else, and they naturally assume you won't share or that you'll sell it to the people in your neighborhood who have money shipped to them by their relatives in Miami. Nevermind that it's almost impossible to survive in Cuba without breaking the law someway or another to get food. But they don't care about that, everyone has to be equally fucked.

Any political ideal that doesn't allow me to have a fucking apple tree in my backyard is sick and twisted.

When I went to Cuba on the first night we went and sat in a cafe with loads of locals. These two friendly guys were sat next to us who spoke English pretty well so we started talking to em. One of them was pretty drunk. I asked him what Cuba was like and he started mouthing off about how much he hated Castro and how much the country sucked. His friend got really panicked nad stood up, trying to make him calm down, then he explained that you could get into serious trouble if you knocked Castro in public. There were armed police on every street corner to see to this.

The next day we spoke to the person at reception and hired a driver they knew to take us round and show us the sights. When he arrived we started talking to him and he explained that he was actually a doctor, but he earned more money being a taxi driver for tourists, who pay him in American dollars, than as a Cuban doctor where he gets paid a basic wage in Cuban money. That pretty much summed up the country. It was fairly sad and depressing really.

Once we drove out of Havana and into the country he showed us the house where Che Guevara's best mate lived. It was this massive fuck off mansion in the middle of nowhere with a swimming pool, which compared to the shacks ordinary Cubans were living in was just disgusting.

Thank you.
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Mar 29 2007, 09:19 AM


Any political ideal that doesn't allow me to have a fucking apple tree in my backyard is sick and twisted.

You honestly think Socialists are hell bent on cutting down people's apple trees?
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As if he's never seen one b4.
ADeadChicken
Mar 29 2007, 01:13 PM
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Mar 29 2007, 09:19 AM


Any political ideal that doesn't allow me to have a fucking apple tree in my backyard is sick and twisted.

You honestly think Socialists are hell bent on cutting down people's apple trees?

Democracy chopped down a cherry tree, but said sorry after. Can i change my vote to Democracy? Even if you say no, im still gunna do it anyway. Or, i could just vote for Paul, how long has it been since he has won a poll here? He used to win all the time....
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Mar 29 2007, 01:56 PM
ADeadChicken
Mar 29 2007, 01:13 PM
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Mar 29 2007, 09:19 AM


Any political ideal that doesn't allow me to have a fucking apple tree in my backyard is sick and twisted.

You honestly think Socialists are hell bent on cutting down people's apple trees?

Democracy chopped down a cherry tree, but said sorry after. Can i change my vote to Democracy? Even if you say no, im still gunna do it anyway. Or, i could just vote for Paul, how long has it been since he has won a poll here? He used to win all the time....

Was that a metaphor or did democracy ACTUALLY cut down a cherry tree? btw, YES to the small print. hehe
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Mar 29 2007, 09:19 AM


Any political ideal that doesn't allow me to have a fucking apple tree in my backyard is sick and twisted.

You honestly think Socialists are hell bent on cutting down people's apple trees?

Just to make sure I get a reply from Carpenter. Also, I'd like you to prove this:

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Nevermind that it's almost impossible to survive in Cuba without breaking the law someway or another to get food.



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Mar 29 2007, 08:36 PM
ADeadChicken
Mar 29 2007, 01:13 PM
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Mar 29 2007, 09:19 AM


Any political ideal that doesn't allow me to have a fucking apple tree in my backyard is sick and twisted.

You honestly think Socialists are hell bent on cutting down people's apple trees?

Just to make sure I get a reply from Carpenter. Also, I'd like you to prove this:

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Nevermind that it's almost impossible to survive in Cuba without breaking the law someway or another to get food.



Thank you

I meant Cuban law. And Cuban law is flawed.

The apple tree thing was just an example, but the fact that you're trying to belittle the event so much only proves to me that I'm right.

I've lived under socialism before in Spain and it wasn't nearly as bad as communism, but it was still uncomfortable (even though I belong to the sacred proliterat).
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Mar 29 2007, 05:51 PM

I meant Cuban law. And Cuban law is flawed.


100% true. I am by no means pro Cuba.

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The apple tree thing was just an example, but the fact that you're trying to belittle the event so much only proves to me that I'm right.


Cuba arresting people for growing apple trees is just stupid. But, that doesn't prove Socialists are Cuba.

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I've lived under socialism before in Spain and it wasn't nearly as bad as communism, but it was still uncomfortable (even though I belong to the sacred proletariat).


That's 'Proletariat', but, no matter.
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When George Washington was a small boy he chopped down his fathers charry tree. He told his father what he had done, and said sorry.
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And George Washington is the human embodiement of Democracy...
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Mar 30 2007, 12:27 AM
And George Washington is the human embodiement of Democracy...

That's a nice way of twisting shit around.
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ZachAppleThrows
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Mar 29 2007, 10:03 PM
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Mar 30 2007, 12:27 AM
And George Washington is the human embodiement of Democracy...

That's a nice way of twisting shit around.

I was referring to a previous post by Linda, which read:

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Democracy chopped down a cherry tree, but said sorry after. Can i change my vote to Democracy? Even if you say no, im still gunna do it anyway. Or, i could just vote


I fail to see how I twisted anything around.
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As if he's never seen one b4.
I dont know about other places, but when Americans think of Democracy (generalization) we think of George Washington. Since he was the father of our country and all. Other people could think of the Athenians or something to that effect for all i know.
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I don't. America was founded as a republic, we've never really been a true democracy.
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As if he's never seen one b4.
the only way to be a true democracy is to have each person have their say, but we have reps because there are just to many people here for that. We try tho. I believe that really do try.
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