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Battle of the Brians.; Brian Jones vs Brian Wilson
Topic Started: Apr 14 2006, 06:35 AM (5,954 Views)
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Yeah, and a few hundred thousand years.
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Oct 14 2006, 04:53 PM
Yeah, and a few hundred thousand years.

It's still cool.
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Oct 14 2006, 04:48 PM
Yea it's cool to argue but it's been 19 fucking pages ha. :cigar:

Only 4 pages for me.

If the topic gets one person to listen to Brian Wilson who wouldn't otherwise, it's worthwhile......same for Brian Jones.
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...Brian who?
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Oct 14 2006, 06:22 PM
...Brian who?

BRIAN JONES!
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It's funny how the person that started this topic has a grand total of like 2 posts in it.
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king fucking mixer.
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Brian Jones > Brian Wilson
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8achh-7qpU

Singing and playing slide guitar simultaneously and then taking the slide guitar solo.
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i guess the wilson fans gave up.
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Thats the clearest I've ever heard Brian sing.
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Oct 29 2006, 01:17 AM
i guess the wilson fans gave up.

if you want some cool brian wilson stuff, it's always out there. i just think this topic is kind of pointless now. brian jones is obviously the better musician, which you're proving. anyway, here's a clip of the greatest rock producer of all time, going through brian wilson's most beautiful song, admiring his technique and ability.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP1U3vhG4o4

:peace:
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It all comes down to this:

Music probably wouldn't have been as good without Brian Wilson. However, it horrifies me to picture music history without The Rolling Stones.

And I know what you're going to say, but the Beatles would've gone into the studio late '66 and made an amazing album anyway, no matter what. Brian Wilson didn't invent acid after all. Day Tripper, for one, wouldn't exist period without The Stones, at least not in the form it ended up being recorded.

I think it says a lot that one of the biggest things you guys are using to argue how great the leader of the beach boys was is a beatles album.

Oh, and btw, if Brian Jones wrote the AT LEAST 15-20 songs most people think he deserves credit for, which he easily did by today's standards of songwriting credits (Coldplay, Radiohead, and most of their peer's give credit to whoever had any major musical input: usually most of the band), it tops 100 lesser Wilson songs.

But hey, how bout that 'producing' eh?
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I just noticed it says 'All songs by Mick Jagger and Keith Richard, Arranged by The Rolling Stones' on my copy of Between The Buttons. I don't feel like looking at the other jagger/richards-penned albums but I'm guessing they say the same. And arranging is half of songwriting.
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Oct 29 2006, 03:19 AM
But hey, how bout that 'producing' eh?

perhaps. but putting down brian wilson's "talents" while glorifying brian jones isn't looking at it fairly. i can go learn how to play slide guitar right now, learn how to play a hundred instruments with some practice. but there's no way i'm going to *learn* how to write an album like pet sounds. and all the brian jones-penned songs are mostly just stories as of now. no member of the stones has actually come out and said he actually *wrote* the songs. they could all be lying, but the stories could also be untrue. you never truly know. there are a lot of myths in rock history that just aren't true. he hasn't been credited for 40 years, therefore he's never actually been given credit for them, so i don't know how you can really start giving him credit now, see. and if arranging if half of songwriting, doesn't brian wilson deserve even more credit, for building up an orchestra of sound and texture on his tracks? and harmonies too? that's all him. and if it's true, george martin, ringo, and george deserve a lot of songwriting credits too. brian jones started the rolling stones "band", but mick jagger was the one who knew keith richards and allowed him to come in and play. and that's where it really exploded. so i'd give mick a lot of that credit too. i don't really focus on how brian wilson inspired sgt. pepper directly (though rock music really would be different if pepper had never come out), but he did impact a *lot* of important musicians at the time, not just paul mccartney, which eventually accumulated into having a huge effect on how things would change in the years to come.

see? it's not being fair. dismissing one's greatness while putting as much as you can on the other doesn't make it a worthwhile argument.

i know how much they both did, i won't deny either one their amazing legacy and impact in the rock music world. and i'm not biased, i dig brian jones a lot. :peace:
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