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| A Thought on Politics; radically opposed to idiocy | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 4 2006, 11:00:15 AM (521 Views) | |
| viper92583 | Sep 4 2006, 11:00:15 AM Post #1 |
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First, a disclaimer: This is written from a rather radical viewpoint. I don't look to offend anyone, nor do I plan to tread lightly to make sure I don't. This is purely my opinion, and you are free to reply as you see fit. Keep the conversation civil, as I can promise to do the same. Now, then... I have been staying away from the news a bit lately, because it's just too depressing, and most of the time, I just get angry when I see it. I remember back when George W. Bush was first elected in 2000. He was elected by a technicality and a rather odd decision by the Electoral College. Nonetheless, he was elected, and nothing anyone says will contradict the fact that he has been the president for the last 6 years. I remember when the towers fell. I remember where I was. I was asleep. I woke up to the message on AIM "Turn on the news." I went out to the lounge in my PJ's (this was at IA, and it was a public lounge for students to hang out in), and I just stood there silent for what seemed like an eternity. The first tower had been hit and the second one was just about to be. My first instinct was similar to many others (98% of those polled, as i recall): "Let's get the ones who did this." But within a few minutes of rational thought, I realized that it was a tragedy, but that it didn't make logical sense to make a bad situation worse by starting wars, especially if we didn't know who was responsible. Invading Iraq was, at the very least, irresponsible, and at most, idiotic. There was a reason George Bush stopped before crushing Iraq over a decade ago. He knew that it would throw the country into chaos, and rebuiiding it would only mean immense resentment on the part of the Iraqi public. In retrospect, he was much smarter than I gave him credit for. Do you blame them? The U.S. army marched in, devastated the country, and then proceeded to tell them what to do about it. I agree that Hussein was a horribly tyrranical leader, but is it our right to dethrone him all for the sake of giving Iraq a democracy? And how did we "liberate them" again? We invaded, occupied, and forced beliefs upon them. We say we're giving them freedom, but it's at the point of a sword. I have stopped following the conflict in Iraq almost completely, knowing that it will last a long time, and that we have only seen the beginning. What I do wonder is if the United States will make a second disastrous miscalculation and move in on Iran. The fact that they have nuclear weapons technology should make us all the more hesitant, not all the more eager. And this "War on Terrorism" buzzword has been overused to the point that it means less than nothing to me. If we are going to go fighting "Terrorism", shouldn't we be doing our part simply by going on with our lives and not breaking our routines? It's no better for the US to go in and destroy another country, because we become the terrorists when we do. Terrorism is a relative term...One country's terrorist is another country's hero. This all comes down to acceptance. If we (people on the whole) could learn how to accept each other's beliefs, instead of judging them, perhaps we could get past all of this and stop killing each other. I don't know what it is about differing opinions that gets people pissed off, but it's not doing anything. What happens when something bigger than petty differences comes along? Global Warming was mentioned, but more immediate, perhaps, would be the possibility of an asteroid or meteor hitting Earth. What happens when we're faced with something that could literally alter the shape of our planet and kill every single lifeform on it? Are we still going to be shooting at each other and misusing religion to justify it? And if we are, who's gonna stop the real disasters? |
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| MDV | Sep 4 2006, 11:41:01 AM Post #2 |
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....i know someone who,s from iraq ( he moved here becaise saddam was after him)....and when the iraq war started he was very happy that saddam was finally being attacked and defeated.......even now he says that the sacrifices are worth it....... and not only the USA invaded iraq and afghanistan but still evryone blames only them........ and i think that when something apocalyptic (sorry for my bat spelling XD) like a meteor strike, an alien invsasion, or an uncurable disease that kills all life on the planet....well everyone will just try to save themselfs (and the people who are close to them offcourse) .....dont het me wrong...i,m not pro-bush...i just don,t see him as the blame for everything that,s going wrong in the world... * no hard feeling offcourse* (and sorry for my bad english XD) |
| viper92583 | Sep 4 2006, 05:04:42 PM Post #3 |
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fair enough... i'm not really saying i blame him for everything that's going on, because most of what is wrong right now has been going wrong for many years before he came to office. i must, however, say that i do not think he handled a few situations in the right way. one thing i don't like is the fact that as a way to combat terror, he allowed (and in some cases) pushed laws through that were making it look more and more like the Salem Witch Trials, and put a panicky public on pins-n-needles. i do like the fact that he didn't back down from what he thought was important, but i think things could have been handled differently, particularly in the legislative sense. one of the major laws that went through a little while ago had a small bill tagged on that essentially changed martial law...the times and situations in which it can be declared, and what they can do if it is. the government can now (from my understanding) seize assets and remove you from your home if martial law is declared. i don't understand why a law like that would be necessary, but i'm fairly certain i don't want to, especially after i've seen what the patriot act can do... again, sorry if i came across as saying that bush is everything wrong with the world...there are forces way beyond his influence that have been setting the stage for years... but if this is how much the world has changed since 9-11 (good god, we live in fear, and we're chasing shadows), i'm fairly sure someone's going to have to step in and try to actively fix this or we're going to get into a conflict that we can't get out of... \\EDIT I suppose the person you know has a point. No government is better than a tyrranical one. But I don't know that it was done in the right way...especially in the public eye (remember the "we suspect they are manufacturing WMD's" justification, that they clung to even after finding nothing?)... i agree that it was likely worth the risk, but only if it ends before we hit a chain-reaction and piss the world off at us... |
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| MDV | Sep 4 2006, 05:23:14 PM Post #4 |
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.....i know....since 9-11 everyone is living in fear and all that.......but i don,t think we have to wait for the mesias to come........people just shouldnl,t be afraird.....all this fear and hate,,,,,that,s exactly what those terrorist want.........i,m not afraid of them....i don,t hate the terrorists (or bush)...i just don,t fear or hate them......and if everyone could do that (wich is very VERY unlikely
:( )...things should work out.... .....i do agree with you that attacking iran would be very wrong (that would be like blowing up the world) |
| viper92583 | Sep 4 2006, 05:32:46 PM Post #5 |
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holy shit! ...i wish i had a more intelligent reaction to it than that, but you hit it on the head... fear and hate is exactly what the terrorists want, and unfortunately, no one (leaders or otherwise) is doing anything to dispel the hate and fear. instead, it seems to be growing. if people could set this aside, things would at least have a chance to work out... i personally don't live in fear of anything...i don't really hate anyone...i just don't like the idea of combatting fear with fear...it's like trying to put out a fire with gasoline... (and yes...invading iran would likely mark a significant change in the world and life on it...let's just hope it never comes about...) |
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