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Riders Vs Essex
Topic Started: Oct 9 2009, 06:52 PM (1,920 Views)
Fly	Oct 9 2009, 06:52 PM Post #1
Bench Player Posts: 179 Group: Member Member #3,299 Joined: August 28, 2007	I think Riders will win tomorrow by about 30 with Tack top scorer. What does everyone else think?



Jimmy Lad	Oct 9 2009, 07:21 PM Post #2
Bench Player Posts: 110 Group: Member Member #778 Joined: October 6, 2006	Win yes. By how many? Wouldn't even like to guess as I have no idea what Essex are all about.



rainbow	Oct 9 2009, 09:35 PM Post #3
Rookie Posts: 86 Group: Member Member #9,818 Joined: September 22, 2008	i hope we win .......... just be warned the work on the bridge has started so if you plan on going to the game, make sure you leave plenty of time to get there !



sonjel	Oct 9 2009, 11:05 PM Post #4
Bench Player Posts: 112 Group: Member Member #3,029 Joined: August 17, 2007	Ghaaarrr!! RIDERS!! RIDERS!!



jukebox	Oct 10 2009, 01:21 AM Post #5
Rookie Posts: 91 Group: Member Member #9,955 Joined: November 16, 2008	a win yes, but maybe not by such a huge amount as i would expect Rob to maybe rotate the squad a little more than normal if the situation allows.



Fly	Oct 10 2009, 11:21 AM Post #6
Bench Player Posts: 179 Group: Member Member #3,299 Joined: August 28, 2007	rainbow Oct 9 2009, 09:35 PM i hope we win .......... just be warned the work on the bridge has started so if you plan on going to the game, make sure you leave plenty of time to get there ! cheers rainbow! do you know if access to the JSSC car park is still available?



isthaturinal	Oct 10 2009, 12:24 PM Post #7
Sixth Man Posts: 430 Group: Member Member #207 Joined: July 19, 2006	I to think we could be in for a big win tonight, Between 25 - 30 points, We have more skill, depth and experience on our side plus were at home, Now another big and loud crowd should bring us the win,



isthaturinal	Oct 10 2009, 01:07 PM Post #8
Sixth Man Posts: 430 Group: Member Member #207 Joined: July 19, 2006	6 Taner Adu 7 Andrew Wallace 8 Joe Matthews 9 Josh Clark 11 Alan Metcalfe 12 Jamell Anderson 13 Kyle Dodd 14 Simon Emmerson 15 Walid Mumuni 21 Pablo Rodrigo 23 Samuel Toluwase 24 Colin Sing 25 Dean Williams This is the Essex team if it helps not what you call well known names



GlennHardaker	Oct 10 2009, 01:15 PM Post #9
Basketball Legend Posts: 9,048 Group: Global Moderator Member #1,234 Joined: December 23, 2006	Joe Matthews was EBL2 at Colchester Hornets last season Colin Sing (Sefton Stars) and Jamell Anderson (Nottingham Tribe) were both on TL's GB u20 Squad last summer Walid Mumuni is stepping up from Reading Rockets to the BBL Metcalfe, Wallace and Williams are I believe the only ones with BBL experience although I remember the name Simon Emmerson from somewhere and wondered if it was as a BBL bench player Edited by GlennHardaker, Oct 10 2009, 01:32 PM.
	Feel the (Huddersfield)Heat !


Saintpat	Oct 10 2009, 04:14 PM Post #10
Franchise Player Posts: 2,920 Group: Member Member #49 Joined: July 11, 2006	Quote: although I remember the name Simon Emmerson from somewhere and wondered if it was as a BBL bench player Came off the bench for Lions last season. An aggresive defensive player who can also shoot the 3 well.



Wedgie	Oct 10 2009, 08:07 PM Post #11
Rookie Posts: 14 Group: Member Member #10,239 Joined: April 8, 2009	they have no american's soo they will probably struggle with tack minor, jason johnson and shaun durant. definately a win for the riders tonight without a doubt the question is by how many ? Edited by Wedgie, Oct 10 2009, 08:08 PM.



Wedgie	Oct 10 2009, 08:19 PM Post #12
Rookie Posts: 14 Group: Member Member #10,239 Joined: April 8, 2009	51 - 31 at the half to riders.



Fly	Oct 10 2009, 08:39 PM Post #13
Bench Player Posts: 179 Group: Member Member #3,299 Joined: August 28, 2007	Go Riders!!



Fly	Oct 10 2009, 09:13 PM Post #14
Bench Player Posts: 179 Group: Member Member #3,299 Joined: August 28, 2007	99-65, sounds like a good game. Couldnt make it, but why did Tack get ejected?



massiveridersfan	Oct 11 2009, 12:26 AM Post #15
Bench Player Posts: 240 Group: Member Member #391 Joined: August 1, 2006	Excellent performances across the board (e.g. Adam Williams) meant we cruised to the win tonight. Best team effort in my opinion because our defence was intense and led to us breaking open Essex Pirates. Aaron Westbrooks a 3 point shooter of some class! Will really boost the bench's confidence that they are a vital part of Riders and it's not just down to a few fantastic players (Tack, Bradd etc). I love watching Riders because we improve with each game.



NickM	Oct 11 2009, 12:42 AM Post #16
Starter Posts: 784 Group: Member Member #243 Joined: July 20, 2006	All signs of a good coach and organisation generally - compare with the thread that's been running this week on the Wolves' forum...



The Land of Plenty	Oct 11 2009, 10:50 AM Post #17
Starter Posts: 546 Group: Member Member #191 Joined: July 18, 2006	report now posted on www.ridersbasketball.net
	www.ridersbasketball.net The Independent Riders website.


Ben	Oct 12 2009, 01:43 PM Post #18
All-Star Posts: 1,197 Group: Member Member #1,533 Joined: February 20, 2007	A win which was very easy for us in the end but for me was marred by Tack's ejection (if it does lead to a ban). How I saw the incident was : it was a tussle for the ball and Tack happened to throw out an arm- no need for it as the game was already dead with hardly any time left on the clock. I'm sure there was contact but as already said Rodrigo went down as if he'd been shot just as he had done only minutes early when Jason seemed to swing out an elbow in another tussle after collecting a rebound. I would have said this incident was actually worse but the refs didnt appear to have seen it. I have to say I was suprised Tack got ejected, I thought it would have been a technical at the most. The refs could have just let it go as the game was dead (although I know you should really always play by the rules). A needless incident on both Tack's and the ref's part, in my opinion. Quick question- does an ejection automatically equal a ban or can the BBL choose to recind it if they see fit? Also, can you appeal against the decision as didn't Everton appeal against a ban on Josh Gross last season, if I remember? As for the game, it was good to see everyone get good minutes. They had no way of breaking down our defence when we stepped it up towards the end, the shot clock seemed to be expiring on almost every play at one point with us scoring at will down the other end. I thought the few performances that stood out were- Jason, had yet another double double, Adam- very impressive, looked really good going to the basket and showed good D (agree with someone elses comment in an other thread re his game is much more rounded now). Aaron- didn't know he could shoot like that, awesome.



NickM	Oct 12 2009, 01:55 PM Post #19
Starter Posts: 784 Group: Member Member #243 Joined: July 20, 2006	Thanks Ben My understanding is that an ejection automatically leads to a one-game ban. However, there is provision for an appeal and players continue to play until one is heard. However, most Riders fans on here seem to agree that Tack did hit out and make contact (irrespective of any continental theatrics) which would make an appeal unlikely, unless Rob is absolutely desperate for Tack to plan next Saturday. Given the apparent depth of Riders squad and the fact that Lions don't look the strongest team in the league, I would have thought that he'd leave it unless they really feel hard done by. Somebody more knowledgeable will probably undo all of that... Panthers fans spent plenty of time singing Adam's praises two seasons ago. It's true that he had a decent return on a poor team, but you still have to beat the opposition which he did with regularity. He is most effective when going to the hoop where his tenacity is just too much for many larger defenders. Playing for the Panthers also meant that he got lots of minutes defending in a mis-match situation - I'm sure he's learned from that. Lataryl had the same experience on the same team and Riders fans are well aware of his defensive abilities now.



AS-H	Oct 12 2009, 02:58 PM Post #20
Sixth Man Posts: 290 Group: Moderator Member #46 Joined: July 11, 2006	Unless the BBL's rules on discipline are different from EB's then a disqualification is not an automatic 1 match ban, it is decided by the disciplinary officer as to the number of points. A DQ is automatically 7 points, and a suspension is reached at 10 points. The officer has authority to increase the number of points given the perceived seriousness of the offence. Any ban comes into play 19 days after the incident, so if Tack is to miss a game it will be the w/e of 30/31st October.



OWBC	Oct 12 2009, 06:14 PM Post #21
Sixth Man Posts: 337 Group: Member Member #6,351 Joined: January 24, 2008	I don't think EB & BBL are the same. I've never seen a BBL player/team/coach in the EB bulletin where they show the disciplinary cases. NickM you say it was clear cut but many people didn't see anything happen and neither did Neil or Roger until the other ref (Wheatcroft I think) blew his whistle. If Tack did do that then fair enough he deserves a ban but I was told that they were bothon the floor fighting for the ball and tack was trying to protect it with his hands on the ball & his elbows out (as all good players are taught to do). Whether Tack caught him with his elbow I don't know but is that worth an ejection if he's only protecting the ball. As I said I ddin't get to see anything until Pablo fell because there were too many players in the way so I'm only recounting what I was told!



OWBC	Oct 12 2009, 06:16 PM Post #22
Sixth Man Posts: 337 Group: Member Member #6,351 Joined: January 24, 2008	I thought Jamell Anderson & Tanner Adu had good games for the Pirates.



Matt	Oct 12 2009, 09:13 PM Post #23
Statto Posts: 667 Group: Co-Admin Member #3 Joined: July 5, 2006	Tack hitting the guy was no accident, my view was clear as anything. To the point I said "he's gone" before the ref even blew his whistle. He looked up, took his hand off the ball and hit out at him. Disqualification was the only call that the ref could make. Oh and just heard on the old grapevine it could be up to a 3 match ban, guess we'll have to see as to how true that is...



massiveridersfan	Oct 12 2009, 10:26 PM Post #24
Bench Player Posts: 240 Group: Member Member #391 Joined: August 1, 2006	Riders video each game don't they? That might seal his fate or clear him - hmmmm... now where did that dvd go? Sure it was here a moment ago! Edited by massiveridersfan, Oct 12 2009, 10:27 PM.



AS-H	Oct 12 2009, 11:19 PM Post #25
Sixth Man Posts: 290 Group: Moderator Member #46 Joined: July 11, 2006	Maybe the clue is that it is the EBL bulletin - just because the BBL players don't go on there doesn't mean that the BBL don't apply the same rules. The only difference I am aware of is that a coach DQ in EB is an automatic 10 point penalty and therefore 1 game ban, but a BBL coach can be "awarded" only 9 points.



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