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BBS; That should read BBA !!!
Topic Started: Aug 19 2009, 08:34 AM (10,625 Views)
hersey427	Aug 19 2009, 08:34 AM Post #1
Franchise Player Posts: 2,516 Group: Moderator Member #38 Joined: July 11, 2006	In the international forum, Yeoman wrote Quote: i've grown increasingly concerned as the prospect of a post olympic meltdown will be dramatically increased without a commercially viable professional league in place by then. interesting times indeed. at the risk of going over old ground and with too much at the idea that our friend in America gives a damn about the British game, I'd like to ask why - as the BBL is so shabby - him and his pals haven't yet started their own league ? It's been five years, now. Edited by hersey427, Aug 19 2009, 08:35 AM.



yeoman	Aug 19 2009, 02:22 PM Post #2
Sixth Man Posts: 490 Group: Member Member #103 Joined: July 16, 2006	dunno hersey, i too will be counting the days. not as close to the situation as before but the real question is why would so many put their reputation at risk for a "fantasy" and not the BBL? from their website i've surmised: ed tapscott, Former CEO Charlotte Bobcats ron scott, Former CEO Synergie Capital bernard mullins, Former CEO Atlanta Hawks (and from Liverpool a potential BBA city?) ken olisa, Director, Thomson Reuters stephen wright, Former FD, Virgin plc william strickland, Former Director of Basketball, IMG jared bartie, Former VP, NBA Team Marketing and COO Charlotte Bobcats mark pannes, Former CMO, New York Knicks and now Director of Sport HSBC john amaechi, CEO Amaechi Basketball Centres that certainly looks like a team with qualifications to me and don't think they have an interest in low grade american players playing in leisure centres so that takes time i guess imho. you have the website don't you hersey www.bbauk.com.



hersey427	Aug 19 2009, 02:40 PM Post #3
Franchise Player Posts: 2,516 Group: Moderator Member #38 Joined: July 11, 2006	That's a great list of names who may or may not still be involved in the BBA. When are they actually going to stage a game of basketball ? I've been told it's fundamental to running a basketball league. Hell, even the BBL manage to do that, and yet you hold them in contempt.



yeoman	Aug 19 2009, 02:49 PM Post #4
Sixth Man Posts: 490 Group: Member Member #103 Joined: July 16, 2006	sure they are still all involved with some recent additions. sure its fundamental to run a basketball league (especially with low wage, cheap americans playing in leisure halls) i would hope more thought has gone into planning a league that will work. again, why do so many of these successful basketball and business people allow their name to be associated in a very public manner with a "fantasy". btw, don't hold the BBL in contempt at all. wish them well.



hersey427	Aug 19 2009, 03:36 PM Post #5
Franchise Player Posts: 2,516 Group: Moderator Member #38 Joined: July 11, 2006	So what are they actually doing ? Obviously staging basketball games is merely an add-on to their big-time plans.



yeoman	Aug 19 2009, 03:41 PM Post #6
Sixth Man Posts: 490 Group: Member Member #103 Joined: July 16, 2006	they're probably waiting on you to join them as your local knowledge could prove invaluable. remember, you said at one time you actually met mr. scott. (right)



gridiron	Aug 19 2009, 04:00 PM Post #7
All-Star Posts: 1,294 Group: Member Member #365 Joined: July 30, 2006	Just like the TV at this time of year nothing but tired old repeats. Edited by gridiron, Aug 19 2009, 04:21 PM.
	Eagles 2009/10 Newcastle Eagles Wheelchair Basketball Team Encore 2009/10


hersey427	Aug 19 2009, 04:08 PM Post #8
Franchise Player Posts: 2,516 Group: Moderator Member #38 Joined: July 11, 2006	It's amazing that you remember stuff I said at a meeting you weren't at. It's like you were sitting in the room, Ron. So basically, to sumarise: The BBA have achieved exactly nothing in five years. Meanwhile the BBL have staged approx 1,250 games watched by somewhere in the region of three-quarters of a million people, and British Basketball has started from scratch and has already got the national (men's) team into Eurobasket.



backache	Aug 19 2009, 04:08 PM Post #9
Bench Player Posts: 202 Group: Member Member #659 Joined: September 17, 2006	was that a BBL olive branch I just saw thrown out there - I wonder why that would be ...........



Wales Baller	Aug 19 2009, 05:11 PM Post #10
Rookie Posts: 47 Group: Member Member #4,775 Joined: November 3, 2007	Here we go again, let me tell all of you where I stand on this. Now I have read on the BBA facebook page that they are looking to get this finally going for the 2010/11 season, whether this is true or not I don't know, but if they do, I wish them all the luck in the world but until then can someone please lock this thread so that we don't go through this again.



hersey427	Aug 19 2009, 06:25 PM Post #11
Franchise Player Posts: 2,516 Group: Moderator Member #38 Joined: July 11, 2006	I'll phone the man whose holding a gun to your head & forcing you to read this, and I'll ask him to stop. I wonder when 2009/10 was changed to 2010/2011, and when it'll change to 2011/12.



Mark Peckett	Aug 19 2009, 06:34 PM Post #12
Sixth Man Posts: 317 Group: Moderator Member #274 Joined: July 22, 2006	I don't want to get in between Hersey and Yeoman, but a statistic Hersey quoted interested me and I'd like a little more information. 1,250 games staged by the BBL (can't argue with that) watched by three quarters of a million people. I know it's been a while since I've been to a game what with the collapse of the Panthers after the demise of the Bullets, but that seems a lot more fans than I ever ran into at a game ... all right there were a couple of 10,000 attendances at the NIA for a Bullets game and another at either Sheffield of the MEN Arena - I can't remember which. So my question is, is that three quarters of a million, three quarters of a million individuals, or a count of the heads attending each of the 1,250 games? If the second is the case, then the fan numbers would drop markedly as it would be the same people next week. I won't dispute that the total attendances amount to three quarters of a million, but I'd put the fanbase for professional British basketball in this country as a lot lower, which explains why the BBL is a fairly small organisation and the BBA can't get going at all!



hersey427	Aug 19 2009, 07:23 PM Post #13
Franchise Player Posts: 2,516 Group: Moderator Member #38 Joined: July 11, 2006	It was off the top of my head, and i mean total attendance rather than 750,000 individuals. On reflection, Eagles and Raiders have probably done half that total between them, so it's probaly one million+ But my real point was, it's better than 0 games watch by 0 people. I see he's gone quiet, perhaps he's at a BBA board meeting.



yeoman	Aug 19 2009, 08:01 PM Post #14
Sixth Man Posts: 490 Group: Member Member #103 Joined: July 16, 2006	you so easily wound mate! just get that hat ready.



JimW	Aug 19 2009, 08:59 PM Post #15
All-Star Posts: 1,606 Group: Co-Admin Member #12 Joined: July 7, 2006	Whilst keen to snack down on the old chapeau, I'm afraid its rotted away with the wait. Hersey: you are a tease - or is that troll?
	GO HEAT We play TEAM ball. I reserve the right to ignore you in a grown-up, though slightly aloof way if you are rude to me.


Ole	Aug 19 2009, 09:05 PM Post #16
Franchise Player Posts: 3,585 Group: Co-Admin Member #22 Joined: July 10, 2006	Yeoman Quote: just get that hat ready Please give us an idea of a timescale so we won't die whilst holding our hats in one hand and holding our collective breath. If you are unable to do that before the end of the weekend (see I am reasonable) I'm going to lock the thread. I wonder what the record is for the number of threads that have been started, about the same subject, but have subsequently been locked as they have come to nothing???
	All in all it's been a rocky road, Twists and turns along the way, But, I still pray for tomorrow All my hopes, my dreams Don't fade away... David Coverdale/Adrian Vandenberg


hersey427	Aug 20 2009, 08:31 AM Post #17
Franchise Player Posts: 2,516 Group: Moderator Member #38 Joined: July 11, 2006	yeoman Aug 19 2009, 08:01 PM you so easily wound mate! just get that hat ready. Yeah, I'm the one who's been wound up, Ron. Your defence of the BBA consists of a list of name of people who are one day going to start a basketball league. You have nothing else of substance to say, and since your first post on this subject you've consistently lied and spread mis-information. You spend a proportion of your life on here trying to keep the myth going that (one day) you'll run a basketball league when you'd struggle to run a bath. I look forward to your reply. Jim - Trolling, surely not



yeoman	Aug 20 2009, 11:10 AM Post #18
Sixth Man Posts: 490 Group: Member Member #103 Joined: July 16, 2006	hersey, if you want to direct your comments to ron, i'm sure you has his email as you said you apparently met him . which i find a tremendous stretch of the truth. one thing is certain, and you may agree. the game goes nowhere without money, olympic funds dry up after 2012 and if nothing is in place by then, britiainpro ball will continue to be the laughing stock of global basketball. basically a league with second rate american players playing for peanuts. and if thats entertainment for you, then you really should get a life mate. clearly we are on both side of the spectrums



hersey427	Aug 20 2009, 12:26 PM Post #19
Franchise Player Posts: 2,516 Group: Moderator Member #38 Joined: July 11, 2006	You appear to have problems with your short term memory. Earlier in this thread you were telling me what I said at a meeting with Ron, now you're claiming there wasn't such a meeting. I guess directors of Leopards, Worthing, Coventry, Aston Athletics (as they were then) & Rockets all imagined that we sat in a meeting room in Reading. So, more importantly, how's the BBA coming along ? By that, I i mean when & where will you stage basketball games. Obviously, I'm but it's fun watching avoid the key questions.



Ole	Aug 20 2009, 02:42 PM Post #20
Franchise Player Posts: 3,585 Group: Co-Admin Member #22 Joined: July 10, 2006	Jim Looks nothing like Hersey - I can't vouch for Yeoman. BBL is in existence and something that you can touch, feel and smell - everything the BBA has failed to do ever since the names of AC Green (not the original one) and Ron Scott were even mentioned! Still waiting for some idea of a timescale . . . . . . . .
	All in all it's been a rocky road, Twists and turns along the way, But, I still pray for tomorrow All my hopes, my dreams Don't fade away... David Coverdale/Adrian Vandenberg


wentey	Aug 20 2009, 05:49 PM Post #21
Rookie Posts: 84 Group: Member Member #155 Joined: July 17, 2006	Anyone know what happened to these boys...were they part of the BBA...? www.londonkings.com ????



HartlepoolHEAT	Aug 20 2009, 08:06 PM Post #22
Rookie Posts: 45 Group: Member Member #1,708 Joined: March 24, 2007	The website doesnt seem to open apart from the intro?
	Can you feel The HEAT!


Saintpat	Aug 20 2009, 09:09 PM Post #23
Franchise Player Posts: 2,921 Group: Member Member #49 Joined: July 11, 2006	Quote: Looks nothing like Hersey I think that nose has a certain resemblance !!!



Sumo	Aug 20 2009, 09:13 PM Post #24
Starter Posts: 882 Group: Member Member #81 Joined: July 13, 2006	Quote: the real question is why would such esteemed and credible basketball executives align themselves with the BBA (especially on a BBA website) if they were not convinced something was happening. just does not make sense. seems the background for most of them is team marketing and operations for the NBA. do you think these fine gentleman do not know what they are getting into? i think not. What is more astonishing is that such an esteemed and revered body of executives have taken at least 4 years to start a league. All that clout and so far we have ... well ... nothing. Rien. Uberhaupt nichts. Nihilum. It strikes me that the affiliation of members to the BBA seems to be as arbitary as clicking on a "Confirm" button for the equivalent facebook "Friends" request. It certainly doesn't seem to mean that have to do actually appear in public on behalf of the BBA. Wasn't it Stern who was asked "what are your thoughts about the impact of the BBA on the british game?" He sat, he pondered and then said "who?" As ever though, loving those stories of "behind the scenes dealings". It could be the start of a plot for a new international bestseller based on the high pressure development of a major entertainment industry set around a static website where those interested "infer" what is happening behind the scenes based by staring at the animation for long period in the vain hope that it has deep and hidden meanings if you look for long enough. Of course, for those with an attention span of considerably less fortitude the book would be supplied with a shap sticks to jab hard into your thigh as this would be seemingly less painful than having to wait for the end of the book to see how it all pans out. A search for acronyms of the BBA on google yields the following from one site: BBA British Bankers Association BBA Bachelor of Business Administration BBA Biochimica et Biophysica Acta (French) BBA Balanced Budget Act of 1997 BBA British Board of Agr�ment (EOTA member) BBA Boston Bar Association BBA Big Brother Award BBA Brass Band Aid BBA Black Business Association BBA Broadband Adapter BBA Built By ATI BBA Big Brass Alliance BBA Beam-Based Alignment (imaging) BBA Brabantsche Buurtspoorwegen en Autodiensten (Tilburg, Netherlands) BBA Beyblade Battle Association (gaming) BBA Bajuwarische Befreiungsarmee (Bavarian Liberation Army; terrorist group in Austria) BBA Bankruptcy Bar Association BBA Belgian Boomerang Association BBA Basic Belief Assignment BBA Budget Balancing Assistance (Australia) BBA Baroda Bar Association (India) BBA Blood Bank of Alaska BBA Beyblade Arena BBA Big Brothers of America BBA Back Bay Association (Boston, Massachusetts) BBA Budget By Account BBA Basic Build Analysis BBA Best Bitter Ale (beer style UK) BBA Blue Band Amplifier (DWDM) BBA Budget Activity Account BBA Buy Back Adjustment The same website has British Basketball league as #7 in the search for BBL. Nuff said.



hersey427	Aug 21 2009, 08:26 AM Post #25
Franchise Player Posts: 2,516 Group: Moderator Member #38 Joined: July 11, 2006	wentey Aug 20 2009, 05:49 PM Anyone know what happened to these boys...were they part of the BBA...? www.londonkings.com ???? Can you be part of something that's never actually existed, though with Kings being a team who never played a game in a league which never staged a game would seem a good fit. As for the BBA website, I'd say ask Yeoman, but he appears to be sulking.



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