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busa premier division
Topic Started: Dec 10 2008, 11:23 AM (1,727 Views)
ballerforlife	Dec 10 2008, 11:23 AM Post #1
Rookie Posts: 17 Group: Member Member #10,003 Joined: December 10, 2008	As an avid fan of the game at all levels i must comment on the poor standard of referees at BUSA premier division games. as this tournament is funded by universities it would make sense for BUSA to centrally appoint referees and end this pot luck anyone with a whistle will do madness. I went to the london met vs LSBU game straight after work as i had been invited by one of the players to watch what i hoped would be a top game. The referee arrived 20 mins late and so tip off which was due for 7pm had to be delayed. I wont even go into details about how many times he left the courtside and on one occassion held up the start of a quarter and returned totally unaware that his belt was undone untill reminded to belt up by the crowd. In terms of refereeing what proceeded was bordering on the dangerous as referees afforded no protection to players on either team. in the end players tried to negotiate the game in spite of two referees who i have never encountered at any national league game in my 20 years of supporting basketball. I am hopeful that after such a top match was ruined by at best inept and incompetent officials BUSA will move to centrally apointing referees and hopefully vetting them before hand. On another issue i must say that LondonMet coach Ayinla seems to be very childish and was more interested in having a go at the LSBU coach rather than concentrating on coaching a very good bunch of players who on this showing have got a good chance to win the BUSA championships this year. i wsa informed bu a London Met fan that when they get to BUSA Mr Ayinla plays himself in a bid to engineer wins but surely this is university sports and i would be interested to know what he studies at the Uni to allow him to do this. all in all a game that could have been good was somewhat spoilt by the lack of referees. I had to vacate building at end of the 3rd quarter but herad that a few players were fouled out which did not surprise me as referees had no control of the match , i am more surprised no one got seriously injured. keep supporting london basketball people.



shorty	Dec 10 2008, 11:58 AM Post #2
Rookie Posts: 64 Group: Member Member #473 Joined: August 9, 2006	i am not sure about the top leagues, but i know in lower leagues in busa its generally the home team that arranges the refs and officials, so were not the regular refs?
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ceejayemm	Dec 10 2008, 07:50 PM Post #3
Sixth Man Posts: 484 Group: Member Member #448 Joined: August 7, 2006	Messed up an edit. See below! Edited by ceejayemm, Dec 10 2008, 11:38 PM.



ceejayemm	Dec 10 2008, 08:45 PM Post #4
Sixth Man Posts: 484 Group: Member Member #448 Joined: August 7, 2006	ceejayemm Dec 10 2008, 07:50 PM I wasn't at the London Met v LSBU match but can offer a number of general observations in defence of London Met. Firstly, I have to agree that for what is a good standard of basketball, BUCS head office management of their basketball leaves a lot to be desired. I believe that all University home teams are responsible for appointing officials. Regarding the match itself, this was always going to be a difficult game to officiate and I'm trying to get the names of the officials. There is "previous" with these two teams going back to last season where LSBU indulged in some sharp practice to make sure a number of London Met players their coaches knew to be eligible to play were excluded on technical grounds. LSBU beat London Met by one point earlier in the season so Monday's match decided the "head to head" result. Basically, this match was effectively the decider as to which team will top the group so there was a lot riding on the result. Onto the match itself very briefly. I was emailed by a friend who was at the match saying that the LSBU team seemed to be more interested in karate than basketball. This person is a London Met supporter so is obviously seeing it from a fan's perspective! Regarding Sol Ayinla,who I know very well. Firstly, he's studying for a Masters degree at London Met so is fully entitled to suit up in BUCS if he chooses. Sol is an extremely passionate coach and this can get him into trouble. However, he's also an extremely effective coach and his track record with London Met Uni is superb; progressive promotions every year from EB4 to EB2 and currently top of EB2 heading for EB1 with a 7/1 record this season. As for accusations of "childishness" and not concentrating on coaching his own team, a counter argument would be that Sol Ayinla presided over a 13pt win so must have done an effective job in this case, QED! I'd be very interested to know who was coaching LSBU. Don't forget that their head coach has been banned by BUCS for the rest of the season. This has been discussed on another thread. I'm guessing that Andy Powesland has taken over. He and Sol are (or certainly used to be) very good friends. Was Steve Alexander present at the match? As I said earlier, I wasn't at the match so can't comment directly on the performance of the refs (the main point that prompted this discussion). Hopefully, I've cleared up a few points raised and given a bit of history that provides a context to what happened at last Monday's match. Finally, as "Ballerforlife" only joined Whatsbev today, I had a look at his/her profile. Interesting to see that a 15yr old went straight from work to watch this match and has been an avid supporter for 20yrs. DOB is registered as 1/1/93 (possibly a default setting?) You might want to change this!



ceejayemm	Dec 11 2008, 06:57 PM Post #5
Sixth Man Posts: 484 Group: Member Member #448 Joined: August 7, 2006	One of the referees was Ben Omowaiye. Ben is well known on the London circuit, FIBA qualified with international experience. Ben refereed at the last Commonwealth Games including the Women's Final. Therefore, the implication that London Met appointed a dodgy ref to give them an advantage isn't valid.



ceejayemm	Dec 11 2008, 08:23 PM Post #6
Sixth Man Posts: 484 Group: Member Member #448 Joined: August 7, 2006	London Met beat Brunel yesterday to go top of Premier South. LSBU cemented 2nd spot with a home win over Middlesex Uni (3rd). Glamorgan registered a surprise win over former BUCS/BUSA powerhouse Marjons who are now in real danger of not qualifying for the Finals and dropping out of the top flight next season. Brunel stay above Glamorgan and Marjons in 4th place with just 2 rounds to play. In the North, Leeds Carnegie beat Loughborough to lead the division.



AS-H	Dec 12 2008, 05:05 PM Post #7
Sixth Man Posts: 290 Group: Moderator Member #46 Joined: July 11, 2006	With that amount of experience, why isn't he on the BBL (or at least the EBL?) list?



Erkboy	Dec 12 2008, 05:53 PM Post #8
Starter Posts: 824 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: July 10, 2006	He is on the Senior National league list, although he doesn't appear to have done any games.



rammieib	Dec 17 2008, 12:35 AM Post #9
Rookie Posts: 78 Group: Member Member #671 Joined: September 21, 2006	I would also say that most universities play their games during Wednesday afternoons, and thus many referees are simply unavailable.



ceejayemm	Dec 17 2008, 03:14 PM Post #10
Sixth Man Posts: 484 Group: Member Member #448 Joined: August 7, 2006	Yes, getting officials in London to turn out mid-week is increaingly difficult. London Met Uni play home matches at 7pm on Wednesdays.



ceejayemm	Jan 28 2009, 09:00 AM Post #11
Sixth Man Posts: 484 Group: Member Member #448 Joined: August 7, 2006	With the final round of the BUCS Premier Leagues taking place later today, a bit of history has been made. The recent "powerhouse" of Marjons (who recently won 4 BUCS titles in a row) have been relegated from the top flight. With only table-topping London Met Uni to play, Marjons are on 3pts and can't overtake Glamorgan Uni on 6pts as the Welsh side hold the head-to-head over the Plymouth based side. Let's hope they regroup and bounce back next season. Glamorgan head to Middlesex Uni after being thrashed 78/39 by London Met on Monday night. London Met and LSBU have almost identical records going into the last match and while London Met head to Marjons, Brunel face a closer but tough trip to Brunel. However, even a win won't see LSBU top the South Div as London Met hold the head-to-head. A win for London Met will therefore see themgo into the Championship weekend as seeded to face Leeds Carnegie if the Yorkshire side can hold off Worcester to top the North Div.



ceejayemm	Jan 29 2009, 10:57 AM Post #12
Sixth Man Posts: 484 Group: Member Member #448 Joined: August 7, 2006	London Met and Leeds Met both tooped the Nth and Sth groups with wins over Marjons and Worcester and now go into the Finals Weekend seeded to meet in the Final. However, as can only happen in BUCS, Marjons have jumped above Glamorgan to take the 5th spot on 10pts and avoid relegation. It seems that the default v Glamorgan has been over turned (presumably on appeal). Any explanation for this?



voise	Jan 31 2009, 08:44 PM Post #13
Sixth Man Posts: 303 Group: Member Member #129 Joined: July 17, 2006	Could be interesting in the last 16 for the mens championship. Kingston went 9-1 and Oxford have an immense American, both could prove potential banana skins for Premier league opposition Edited by voise, Jan 31 2009, 08:51 PM.



DozyDunker	Apr 23 2009, 08:05 PM Post #14
Rookie Posts: 30 Group: Member Member #10,118 Joined: February 16, 2009	test Edited by DozyDunker, Apr 23 2009, 08:05 PM.



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