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Mick Foley discussion thread.; All things Foley.
Topic Started: Jan 8 2007, 06:19 PM (199 Views)
Jules
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Don't know why but I was thinking about the old Mickster just now, and how awesome he was this last year with his Edge and early ECW angles.


Then I got to thinking about how he went out with the Melina/McMahon deal. Could there be any plans of him coming back in time for Mania for a program with Nitro (whose hardcore rep has been boosted tremendously in the past few months) or even possibly Vinny Mac himself? There's a million different things you could do with a guy like Mick, and if he's in shape and willing, it'd be a shame to let his fat ass sit and waste away.
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Chad Matthews
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If it's for a match with VKM, i'd rather his fat ass stay at home...

If it's for a match with Nitro, i'd be more interested in that...

I love Mick Foley, but I'm a little Foley-ed out. I'd pretty much like him to come back when he's needed more...like after Wrestlemania and during the summer months....
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Jules
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He did hang around a bit too long last year I'll admit. However, the Nitro thing is waiting for him, whenever they decide to do it, and it should be pretty good indeed.

Short of Foley vs Vince though, my sick mind has always had a twisted wish to see Foley vs Shano... Two of the craziest fuckers in the history of creation, in some kind of no rules sick bump fest.


Then of course there's the abortion that is ECW right now. Any one of RVD, Sabu, Sandman, Dreamer or CM Punk could do wonders with Mickles if given the right opportunity. If he comes back though, he needs to do it in a way that is less confusing than last time. At first it appeared like he was just doing a special angle with Edge, which he was, but then that got carried over into the ECW thing, which in turn, carried over into the Flair thing. All three great angles, but the fact they were back to back to back was an awful way to use Mick as it really over exposed him.

Now if he were going to be coming back full time ala HBK, then it would be fine, but since that's not likely, it is not wise to overdo these dream angle bits. Thinking back to all three of those angles and the way they got compressed together kind of diminishes them a little in hindsight.
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Q-BZ

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HHH gone for several months at least? They need Foley. They'll take him.
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Jules
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Right now I think the right place for Foley is ECW. Smackdown has a big main event for Mania building up in Taker/Batista, and Raw has one hell of a doozy with HBK/Cena if they don't fuck it up, as well as a potential feud with Edge and Orton.

ECW has two things going for it, Jack and Shit, and Jack hasn't been seen or heard from in months.

Bring in Mickles and let him have a go with an ECW original, like Sabu, Sandman or Tommy Dreamer. Dreamer would be ideal since he's never really gotten a high profile Mania match and he sorely deserves one. It'd be a nice gesture for one thing, and a helluva match for another. As for Lashley and the ECW world title scene with Test and Holly, I don't care what they do with it anymore, in the words of Tony Soprano it's 'Dead to me'...
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Chad Matthews
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Now that's something I'd like to see for Foley...

How bout Foley vs. Van Dam?
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Jules
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Foley/RVD could be an amazing match.

Since he's still the recognized Hardcore champion, they could bring back that title and give it back to RVD (since he was the best HC champ ever,)... Then you'd have a strictly extreme rules title on ECW that could make up for the abomination of a World Title scene.


I'd book it in a simple meaningful way.

First a few weeks after the Rumble, RVD cuts a promo saying that the new ECW is a fucking joke, and that everything it once stood for has been raped and pillaged (which I'm sure he'd agree with at this point). He states his digust for the world title, and says that he wouldn't have it even if they handed it to him (again)...

Then he could do like Tazz did with the old FTW title and challenge Mick Foley to a match for the only title he's ever held in WWE that was worth a damn (to him) that being the Hardcore title.

Then you have a few weeks building up to Foley's response, Mickles finally accepts and the match is on.

If only things could ever be so simple.
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^^ Works for me.
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K-Unit
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What about this.
Have Foley come back to wrestling and go to ecw but as a manger and meaning manager i mean a manager of Cm punk.Let Foley come back claim that he is the best hardcore champion of all time and then make him give th hardcore title to Punk.Now you have two title on ecw.Next rvd claims he is the all time hardcore champion.This leads in to a feud between punk and rvd with foley managing punk as a heel, and maby foley turns on punk and teams with rvd who now goes heel and you can turn punk back face.By doing this you create a great feud, bring back a soon to be hall of famer.You put another title on a show that is badly managed and by having like a "united states championship" title on ecw you can hype some smaller stars like dreamer and sandman and striker and other guys like that maby even kevin thorn.

Although by doing this, they would really need to make the world title huge, which we all know isn't.So maby make kevin thorn a contender, holly, test, lashley, put the boogeyman on ecw and put him in contendership for both titles.Take chris masters and make him a definite for the second " hardcore title" and hell your looking at a show with some great talent and star potential!
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^^ Not a bad idea that helps put ECW and their guys over...which is why I think it has virtually no chance of happening, unfortunately.
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Jules
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Interesting ideas... but somehow, Masterlock challenges don't really strike me as all that 'hardcore'... unless he's going to light his arms on fire before applying the hold.
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Jules
Jan 27 2007, 07:28 PM
Interesting ideas... but somehow, Masterlock challenges don't really strike me as all that 'hardcore'... unless he's going to light his arms on fire before applying the hold.

:roflmao:
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K-Unit
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Well, maby don't have the masterlock challenge,
i'm just trying to give an idea about ecw, masters is not great talent on raw so move him to ecw and make him talent.
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Jan 27 2007, 07:47 PM
Well, maby don't have the masterlock challenge,
i'm just trying to give an idea about ecw, masters is not great talent on raw so move him to ecw and make him talent.

You can't "make" him something he doesn't have to begin with.
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K-Unit
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He is not a main eventer.He is not a contender for the inc title.
But if you move him to ecw, make him face and not have your whole roster heel then maby just maby could you push him, like i said way back with the second title that punk could hold.
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Jan 27 2007, 08:53 PM
He is not a main eventer.He is not a contender for the inc title.
But if you move him to ecw,  make him face and not have your whole roster heel then maby just maby could you push him, like i said way back with the second title that punk could hold.

A face turn would be a complete disaster on so many levels. Changing shows may or may not make any differences, either. You either have talent or you don't.

The fans simply do not care about Masters one way or the other and he simply has not given them much, if any reason, to do so.

Put it to you another way: "You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit."

Anyways...why in the hell are we talking about Chris Masters in a thread about Mick Foley?
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Chad Matthews
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I want to see Foley-RVD...the more I think about it, the more I like it...

ECW would be well represented by what could be their last remaining dream match. Foley vs. RVD, Extreme Rules...fresh...
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Chad Matthews
Jan 28 2007, 03:48 PM
I want to see Foley-RVD...the more I think about it, the more I like it...

ECW would be well represented by what could be their last remaining dream match. Foley vs. RVD, Extreme Rules...fresh...

Make it happen! B)
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Crim
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I personally would like to see Terry Funk vs. Mic Foley.

For an old fart, the guy still got some hardcoreness in him.
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