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Cyber Sunday (formerly Taboo Tuesday); the next PPV for Raw...
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Chad Matthews
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Well, I have no idea what matches are being planned for this PPV, but I can speculate that Hardy vs. Nitro will continue until that PPV...

Jeff Hardy vs. Nitro in a ladder match would be a good start for this show, which has been placed on Sunday to try and increase buyrates...

The first two of these shows blew big time, imo.  I've seen both, and neither were that great imo.  There have been about 4 matches worth seeing in two years worth of Tabooing Tuesday...

Let's hope this year is different...


Anyone want to try and put something together?
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Snowman
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Well see the problem is that regardless of who or what the options are, it's going to happen the way wwe wants it too. You really think they let the fans make the decisions for who will face the champ in the main event? It's who they want....not us.

It's a great, great concept in theory, but it is not performed the way it's supposed to be.
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Chad Matthews
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Well, futhermore, the WWE also places a legend in HBK in every main-event voting...

Obviously, HBK is going to get more votes than Benoit, Edge, Big Show, and Kane...

Plus, the cards tend to highlight boring feuds...
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Chad Matthews
Sep 18 2006, 05:40 PM
Jeff Hardy vs. Nitro in a ladder match would be a good start for this show, which has been placed on Sunday to try and increase buyrates...



I dunno about Jeff vs. Nitro anymore, Im starting to get bored of it already. However, a ladder match including Nitro for the IC belt does sound good. Nitro vs. Super Crazy perhaps.
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There has been much speculation as to what the fans will be voting for in regards to the "Champion of Champions" match between John Cena, King Booker and The Big Show at Cyber Sunday. It seems that the fans will be allowed to vote for which title will be on the line - so this would mean that either the WWE Title, the World Championship Title, or the ECW World Title will be on the line during the triple threat match.

The Intercontinental Title will also be on the line as Jeff Hardy will defend the title against whoever wins the fans vote to challenge him for the title. The contenders involved are Johnny Nitro, Shelton Benjamin, Carlito, Super Crazy, and Chris Masters.

Also the local advertising in Cincinnati market lists Ric Flair, DX, Vince McMahon, The Spirit Squad, Edge, Lita, Randy Orton, Rob Van Dam, Batista, Sabu, and William Regal to all appear at Cyber Sunday.


Credit: PWInsider.com
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I want to see very large, earth shattering stipulations/ramifications off of something like this.
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Does anybody think the votes are rigged?

Im unsure.
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Psychosis_1013
Oct 15 2006, 09:34 PM
Does anybody think the votes are rigged?

Im unsure.

Yes, I do. I think the whole thing's a work, just like the Diva contest.
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Oct 15 2006, 07:53 PM
Psychosis_1013
Oct 15 2006, 09:34 PM
Does anybody think the votes are rigged?

Im unsure.

Yes, I do. I think the whole thing's a work, just like the Diva contest.

Meh Probably.
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First, easy prediction....no one will win the main event, that just makes the other brands look weak....there will be a big fight at the end between brands setting up survivor series. If they were smart they would follow last years formula of making it look like a serious hatred between brands, and settle it in war games style.

As for the votes, it is rigged, but in a certain way, they set it up so that the people they want to be in it win it, IE they put Kane, Big Show, and HBK as opponenets for the champ, and the loser would face the tag champions.....Obviously people wanted to see kane and show team up so it was a easy decision.

The only matches that votes actually count is the divas matches with the "choose the outfit" or in the case of Jericho, choose his opponent. Which I feel Hardy will do the same, they will have a standard match set up, and the fans pick the opponent and WWE will choose the outcome.
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Well, since you mentioned predictions.....

I Predict that the WWE Championship will be on the line......

I honestly beleive that there is NO WAY IN HELL that Vincent Kennedy McMahon would EVER book a match where his WWE Champion would EVER LOSE to a ECW CHAMPION or World/Smackdown/WCW Champion (Which we all know is Vince's Vision of what WCW would have been if he kept it alive instead of killing it!)

And I agree it will end in like a DQ or something like that, but I predict Cena gets the win - Not a clean win, but the win never the less.

Besides, Cena needs to keep his push going with this "Marine" Movie, (Which I hear BOMBED at the Box Office! - Anyone see it? Me, I am waiting for it to come out to DVD!)

However, with some of you saying that the voting has been, or will be rigged, I DISAGREE with that comment, Vince has pubicly said to the MAIN STREAM MEDIA on a few occasions that while the outcome of the matches are pre-determined, the actualy voting is 100% by the fans - Now, Vince might rig the contest in a way like was mentioned with the Kane, Big Show, HBK Vote - Like, lets be real here for a moment, who REALLY wanted to see Kane or The Big Show last year compete in the Main Event for a Championship - Not Many - BUT, We all wanted to see these two monsters team up - And that is exactly what Vince was betting on when he set up that stipulation - But, I 100% Honestly think, that if THE FANS voted Kane or Big Show into the Main Event, Vince would have done it - Remember, Vince always preaches that he gives what THE FANS WANT.....

Now taking what I just said into consideration, just think about it for a moment - out of the (3) Champions - Who is the Most Over right now? That would be Cena - And that is what Vince is betting on by setting up this match, and allowing us to vote on which CHampionship will be defended. He realizes that CENA would get the most votes, and that would be an easy match to book - yet still give the fans the FEELING that they booked the match.
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^^ I can pretty much go along with all that, although I think the whole thing is still very seriously rigged.

You hit on the core of the matter: As long as the fans are even halfway convinced that their input really mattered (which it doesn't), then that's all that is needed. It's about illusion and selling the illusion. Perception is "reality."

Vince says he gives the fans what they want...but that's all talk. The need to even listen to the fans died forever when WWE bought everyone else out. Make no mistake about it. You're kidding only yourself if you think the fans really have that much say over any of the product. You're heading into marks-ville with that kind of thinking.




Put it to you like this: If you have a match with say...Triple H on one side and then you have to choose his opponent and you can choose between John Cena or Viscera or Charlie Haas...who do you think is going to win that "vote?"

The last couple of Taboo Tuesdays, we've seen choices for matches almost that ridiculous and obvious. So at that rate, yeah, maybe the fans votes really do matter, but so what? At the very least, it's laughably manipulated.

And the Diva search? All those bitches end up getting hired somehow anyways, so that's obviously been a complete work and waste of time since day one.




Cena's Marine movie is an absolute bomb, which probably doesn't surprise many people, although I do suspect it will do better on DVD and get that B rated Van Damme/Arnie type treatment before disappearing off the planet forever in short order.

Cena is no Rock...heh, in more ways than one.


Anyways, I would also be surprised if any titles actually changed hands.

It's wishful thinking to believe that the brands are going to truly be treated as equals when nothing could be further from the truth. Somehow RAW, and specifically Cena, will be coming out looking the strongest somehow. You can count on it.
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I've been hearing it'll be a Lumberjack match and you get to choose which brands guys will be the lumberjacks. Frankly, that makes a helluva lot more sense to me than putting one of the titles on the line. What does putting a title up for grabs accomplish in a champion of champions match? The point is to determine which champion is the best...I'd say the Lumberjack rumor holds more water...

As for the idea of it being rigged? What makes anyone say that? What opponent chosen or gimmick picked makes you say it was rigged? It's not rigged...it's just set-up to cater to what they want. For instance, Flair vs. Trips in a cage match. I wanted a submission match, but people see cage as an option and they go bananas and vote for that. Another example is HBK winning both years to face the champion. HBK is underrated in how popular he actually is...while he has his Canadian and northeast haters, the guy is in a tier just below Austin, Rock, and Hogan. He is an easy choice over Benoit, Edge, SHow, and Kane. He was the EASY choice each year.

I think the potential card looks quite good, by the way, and I just noticed the card that i'm speaking of hasn't been posted here. It's in the LOP forums...and it includes a 3 Strikes and You're Out match b/t Edge and Orton and DX. The first fall is by pinfall...the second by submission...and the third is what the fans get to choose...

That, along w/ Carlito vs. Umaga, the aforementioned spoilers above w/ the IC title and Champion of Champions bout, looks pretty damn good...
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I've been hearing it'll be a Lumberjack match and you get to choose which brands guys will be the lumberjacks. Frankly, that makes a helluva lot more sense to me than putting one of the titles on the line. What does putting a title up for grabs accomplish in a champion of champions match? The point is to determine which champion is the best...I'd say the Lumberjack rumor holds more water...

As for the idea of it being rigged? What makes anyone say that? What opponent chosen or gimmick picked makes you say it was rigged? It's not rigged...it's just set-up to cater to what they want. For instance, Flair vs. Trips in a cage match. I wanted a submission match, but people see cage as an option and they go bananas and vote for that. Another example is HBK winning both years to face the champion. HBK is underrated in how popular he actually is...while he has his Canadian and northeast haters, the guy is in a tier just below Austin, Rock, and Hogan. He is an easy choice over Benoit, Edge, SHow, and Kane. He was the EASY choice each year.

I think the potential card looks quite good, by the way, and I just noticed the card that i'm speaking of hasn't been posted here. It's in the LOP forums...and it includes a 3 Strikes and You're Out match b/t Edge and Orton and DX. The first fall is by pinfall...the second by submission...and the third is what the fans get to choose...

That, along w/ Carlito vs. Umaga, the aforementioned spoilers above w/ the IC title and Champion of Champions bout, looks pretty damn good...


Sounds preety dam good to me and hopefully the main event is good because i got a feeling it might be a load of crap
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Chad Matthews
Oct 16 2006, 12:56 PM
I've been hearing it'll be a Lumberjack match and you get to choose which brands guys will be the lumberjacks.  Frankly, that makes a helluva lot more sense to me than putting one of the titles on the line.  What does putting a title up for grabs accomplish in a champion of champions match?  The point is to determine which champion is the best...I'd say the Lumberjack rumor holds more water...


Sounds good.



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As for the idea of it being rigged?  What makes anyone say that?  What opponent chosen or gimmick picked makes you say it was rigged?  It's not rigged...it's just set-up to cater to what they want.  For instance, Flair vs. Trips in a cage match.  I wanted a submission match, but people see cage as an option and they go bananas and vote for that.  Another example is HBK winning both years to face the champion.  HBK is underrated in how popular he actually is...while he has his Canadian and northeast haters, the guy is in a tier just below Austin, Rock, and Hogan.  He is an easy choice over Benoit, Edge, SHow, and Kane.  He was the EASY choice each year. 


Ok, different terminology but you and I are basically discussing the same concept.



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I think the potential card looks quite good, by the way, and I just noticed the card that i'm speaking of hasn't been posted here.  It's in the LOP forums...and it includes a 3 Strikes and You're Out match b/t Edge and Orton and DX.  The first fall is by pinfall...the second by submission...and the third is what the fans get to choose...

That, along w/ Carlito vs. Umaga, the aforementioned spoilers above w/ the IC title and Champion of Champions bout, looks pretty damn good...


Agreed.
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Yeah, I remember when everyone and his brother in the IWC were saying that the votes were rigged and that Carmella was going to win the first Diva contest.

I said I'm going to laugh if she doesn't.

She didn't.

Then the same people were saying that the WWE changed their minds at the last minute b/c everyone was "onto them" about the poles being rigged.

Yeah whatever. :rolleyes:


Anyway, no I highly doubt anything is rigged. I pretty much agree with what Maddog, Chad, and Q siad: They are just simply set-up to cater to what they want.
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Oct 16 2006, 11:09 AM
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I've been hearing it'll be a Lumberjack match and you get to choose which brands guys will be the lumberjacks. Frankly, that makes a helluva lot more sense to me than putting one of the titles on the line. What does putting a title up for grabs accomplish in a champion of champions match? The point is to determine which champion is the best...I'd say the Lumberjack rumor holds more water...

As for the idea of it being rigged? What makes anyone say that? What opponent chosen or gimmick picked makes you say it was rigged? It's not rigged...it's just set-up to cater to what they want. For instance, Flair vs. Trips in a cage match. I wanted a submission match, but people see cage as an option and they go bananas and vote for that. Another example is HBK winning both years to face the champion. HBK is underrated in how popular he actually is...while he has his Canadian and northeast haters, the guy is in a tier just below Austin, Rock, and Hogan. He is an easy choice over Benoit, Edge, SHow, and Kane. He was the EASY choice each year.

I think the potential card looks quite good, by the way, and I just noticed the card that i'm speaking of hasn't been posted here. It's in the LOP forums...and it includes a 3 Strikes and You're Out match b/t Edge and Orton and DX. The first fall is by pinfall...the second by submission...and the third is what the fans get to choose...

That, along w/ Carlito vs. Umaga, the aforementioned spoilers above w/ the IC title and Champion of Champions bout, looks pretty damn good...


Sounds preety dam good to me and hopefully the main event is good because i got a feeling it might be a load of crap

Speaking of the main-event...I think it can be really good because the WWE is very good at booking triple threats and fatal fourways. Evidence of late includes the Fatal Fourway at No Mercy. That match, considering the talent involved, had no business being as good as it was, but the booking was top notch and it shined as MOTN (imo, anyway).

I actually rather hope the WWE title is defended rather than it being a Lumberjack match. While the Lumberjack match makes more sense storyline wise, the quality of the match is always hurt, imo, by the presence of lumberjacks on the outside. Thus, for the sake of the quality of the Champion of Champions bout, I hope they go with the title being on the line...and Cena simply winning...

Another point of interest...Everyone assumes Raw will win in the end right? Well, the pretty much deserve to this year, considering they didn't win at last year's Taboo Tuesday or Survivor Series...
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Another point of interest...Everyone assumes Raw will win in the end right? Well, the pretty much deserve to this year, considering they didn't win at last year's Taboo Tuesday or Survivor Series...


Yeah RAW deserves it but WWE might make ECW win because so they can promote it, like thay have been for tha last few months.
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Oct 16 2006, 03:33 PM
Yeah RAW deserves it but WWE might make ECW win because so they can promote it, like thay have been for tha last few months.

Yeah, if we actually see a victory here and not a 'No Contest', I'd definetly want ECW to win. Not because I don't think RAW deserves it, but because the red-headed misfit (ECW), does need promoting.
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Crim
Oct 17 2006, 04:36 PM
Yeah, if we actually see a victory here and not a 'No Contest', I'd definetly want ECW to win. Not because I don't think RAW deserves it, but because the red-headed misfit (ECW), does need promoting.

Big time. ECW needs some "credibility establishment."
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Crim
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Over on WWE.com, it is being reported that Umaga has issued an open challenge to any ECW or Smackdown superstars who wish to face off against him in a match at the Cyber Sunday PPV.
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Crim
Oct 19 2006, 09:28 PM
Over on WWE.com, it is being reported that Umaga has issued an open challenge to any ECW or Smackdown superstars who wish to face off against him in a match at the Cyber Sunday PPV.

Might see Kane take him up on that for the final blow off.
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What about taker?
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Taker vs. Umaga? Hmmm...works for me.
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