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Wrestlemania 23; why not?
Topic Started: Apr 6 2006, 09:35 AM (2,233 Views)
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K-Unit
Feb 21 2007, 08:22 PM
It is being said that stone cold steve austin may be involved in the billionaire match in some way, apparently as a special guest referee!

Good. That's some kind of bonus, anyways.
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Chad Matthews
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ANother bonus...

According to PWTorch, the Hardys and MNM might be facing each other in a special gimmick match at Mania 23
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Chad Matthews
Feb 22 2007, 06:45 PM
ANother bonus...

According to PWTorch, the Hardys and MNM might be facing each other in a special gimmick match at Mania 23

It would be cool if they added TWGTT but that's if Shelton isn't in MITB 3.
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Perhaps a TLC match?!
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Snowman
Feb 22 2007, 08:54 PM
Perhaps a TLC match?!

Needs to happen.
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dawsey28
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Do we need TWO ladder matches on the show, though?

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--There is  talk of an MNM vs. Hardys special gimmick match, and likely a Melina vs. Ashley match. 

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How about they show some creativity and come up with a new match.

We don't need two ladder matches, and since any ladder match can involve tables and chairs, a TLC wouldn't be any different.
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Crim
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If you guys dont want two matches involving ladders, may I be so bold as to bring up a Steel Cage tornado tag?
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Crim
Feb 22 2007, 10:58 PM
If you guys dont want two matches involving ladders, may I be so bold as to bring up a Steel Cage tornado tag?

Fine by me!
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Actually now that I think about it, it would be impossible for the hardy's match to be a tlc....there is no belt to reach for.
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Crim
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^^ Unless Michaels and Cena loose their titles before WM...
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^^They don't want either team back together
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You know...I really like the card as it currently looks...

BUT, I'm having a hard time seeing how this is going to be a good card. This has the potential to be the weakest Wrestlemania since 2000. THere just isn't enough talent out there. The losses of Rey, Kurt, and Triple H...coupled with the fact that they aren't using Orton or Edge in singles matches...is just crippling this card...

I've tried to stay positive and I'm sure I'll still get excited since it's Mania and I just always find a way with a Mania...but DAMN...with a 70K stadium to sell-out, I expected more...

I don't think I can be any more positive than I've tried to be, but this is kinda ridiculous...
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Chad Matthews
Feb 24 2007, 09:15 AM
You know...I really like the card as it currently looks...

BUT, I'm having a hard time seeing how this is going to be a good card.  This has the potential to be the weakest Wrestlemania since 2000.  THere just isn't enough talent out there.  The losses of Rey, Kurt, and Triple H...coupled with the fact that they aren't using Orton or Edge in singles matches...is just crippling this card...

I've tried to stay positive and I'm sure I'll still get excited since it's Mania and I just always find a way with a Mania...but DAMN...with a 70K stadium to sell-out, I expected more...

I don't think I can be any more positive than I've tried to be, but this is kinda ridiculous...


Kind of ridiculous? No, it's been VERY ridiculous for quite some time now. It's just finally gotten to a point where even optimistic folks such as yourself are running out of excuses and tolerance.

It's about time!

State rests, Your Honor. ;)

If even our most optimistic of fans around here, like Chad, are feeling this way and their tolerance has been blown past...and saying these things...it just goes to tell you: You can only make so many excuses and have so many "wishful thinking" moments before the cold hard facts just breakthrough anyways.

You can only imagine how I've felt about this for a lot longer than several months. Ho-hum Wrestlemania and other PPV cards are just indicators ans symptoms of a much larger set of fundamental problems.

Some day it has to reach a crisis point.

I'm sure this WM will be a really good PPV, although again I must say: They ought to just bring it down to at least three hours so we can leave obvious crap and filler off the cards. Again we're going to have at least two complete POS matches that just shouldn't be on any card, let alone the so-called SuperBowl of pro wrestling PPV card.

It just shouldn't be this way. It's their fault for depushing great talent like a Shelton Benjamin or a Carlito and putting them in shit gimmicks, shit roles, and shit storylines. There is still enough talent in the WWE, as a whole, that there's no real GOOD reason to have a shitty match on a WrestleMania card. There's no GOOD reason that trash like Khali and Boogeyman should even be in the company, let alone stink up a WM or any other PPV card. On and on we could all go with obvious examples like these. I know I'm preaching to the choir.

We're back to: Poor booking. Poor writing. Poor <fill in the blanks> backstage. It's just going to continue downards until there's some serious need and motivation for them to fix it and get better. The only way that happens is if there's ever another serious threat and competitor outside of the WWE.

Sadly, I think we're years away from seeing something like that. So get used to it, folks.
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One thing is for sure, it won't suck as bad as some of the early Mania's :)

It could should be a helluva lot better though.
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Feb 24 2007, 12:07 PM
One thing is for sure, it won't suck as bad as some of the early Mania's :)

It could should be a helluva lot better though.

Indeed.
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Look, aside from Kane/Khali U& the Woman's match, I am looking forward to this mania.

As was said before it's a helluva lot better than the earlier Manias. I want you guys to go watch Mania's 1 & 2, 8-12, and 2000....

Then look at this mania's card and you will see why although this is not a WMX-7 or 19....it's still lookin pretty good.
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Crim
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Guys, I think there's a good chance that Lashley isnt going to be Trump's representive...

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I dont know for sure... but WWE has a good rep for blowing mystery opponents with computerized shadows.
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Honestly, Kennedy is WAAAY too over as a heel....From what I have read, Trump has already confirmed it's Lashley in interviews, specifically NSNBC. Although he referred to him as "LINDSAY!" he described Lashley to a T.


HOWEVER...with Batista now getting some boos, and the fact that he has been a face for so long, and he is facing Undertaker, Batista turning heel could happen. If that is the case, then Smackdown will need another face.
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Chad Matthews
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Yeah...well that looks like Test's shadow...and it ain't gonna be Test...

Lashley has already been confirmed thru interviews and such w/ Donald Trump himself...

As for what Snow said...you are definitely right...it's much better than some of the Manias of the past, but there's no excuse for it not to be the best PPV of the year. Last year, it wasn't PPV of the year (at least not by the way that I grade PPVs). Although it was damn good, the previous year's Summerslam card was better...that shouldn't happen.

This year, I look at Unforgiven 2006...that was a better card than the proposed Mania card ON PAPER. Again, that shouldn't happen...

I said it last year and I'll say it now...although I'll always find a way to get excited about Mania, I will always feel that there shouldn't be any better card than Wrestlemania. This is not the time to get everyone on the card (as they tried to do with WM XX)...this is not the time to push the idiots that never even make it onto the brand only cards (as they are doing with Khali this year and did with Candice, Torrie, Stacy, Sable, Jackie, and Boogeyman in recent past)...

What this card is honestly lacking is another really STAND-OUT match. By that, I mean a match that you just know SHOULD be excellent if it's given the chance to be. Edge vs. Foley, MITB II, and Rey-Angle-Orton accomplished that for me last year. HBK-Angle, MITB I, and Rey-Eddie did it two years ago. Jericho-Christian, Angle-Guerrero, HBK-HHH-Benoit did it 3 years ago...and so on and so on since Mania 17. This year, while I think Cena-HBK will be great, and I think MITB III has a chance to steal the show...I need that third stand out match to get me really pumped. Without it, I don't know if I forsee myself getting as pumped as I could be and likely would be.

Orton vs. Edge would've been that 3rd match. I know they would've had a great match. Without that, I can't count on a women's match, a hoss match, or a entertainment match to be my great third match. Until it gets booked, I'm operating under the assumption that they don't have anything like that to offer me, and that I'll come away slightly disappointed with the card (on paper)...
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I for one am pissed Edge is in it. I honestly think there should be no past winners allowed. This is a chance to push mid-card talent to the main event, not have main event talent take the spot light. If it were up to me it would be.

MITB 3:
CM Punk, Carlito, Super Crazy, Booker, MVP, Dykstra

Hardys vs. MNM (2 outta 3 falls)

Edge vs Orton

Kennedy vs. Kane (Falls count anywhere)

WWE Tag Titles:
Hooliganz vs. Deuce and Domino vs. Regal/Taylor

World Tag Titles:
WGTT vs. Cryme Tyme vs. Cade/Murdcoh

Originals vs. New Breed (Elimination Match)

ECW Title:
Lashley vs. RVD vs. Holly (Hardcore Rules)

Billionares:
Chris Benoit vs. Umaga

Crusierweight Open

Women's Title:
Mickie vs. Victoria

WHC:
Batista vs. Undertaker (Hell in a Cell)

WWE Title:
John Cena vs. HBK
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Chad Matthews
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And that would've been great...
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I dont know for sure... but WWE has a good rep for blowing mystery opponents with computerized shadows.


If thats true Crim then it looks like Test to me.
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Snowman
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See to me it looks like Kennedy. Test is suspended, and unlike Kennedy has no chance of the fans liking him at this point.
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dawsey28
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I thought that pic looked like Kennedy.

It won't be Test or Kennedy, though.


I mean look at this: http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/4180928

and this: http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/4248878

That didn't look like Booker.

I don't mind Edge and Booker being in the MITB.

You almost HAVE to put upper midcarders who are a step away from main event in the match.

Even if they have been in the main event before or they can step into it at anytime. You should be able to BELIEVE any of the 6 men in the ladder match COULD win it.

That's what the match IS: A stepping stone into the main event. A No 1 Contender's match. So everyone in the match SHOULD fit the title of a No 1 Contender. Or at least the majority of them. I guess that is just my opinion of it, though. I don't even mind if someone who has already won it is in the match.

And as far as Kane vs Khali and Ashley vs Melina goes, even if those matches are booked, and they ARE NOT, That's only TWO MATCHES and that does not mean the rest of the card is going to be terrible.

Ashley vs Melina may not be the best Women's match, but it will probably be there to "kill the crowd" before the Main Events. I am fine with that. It probably won't even take up that much time.

Only FOUR matches have been anounced.

They still have yet to book an undercard.

And yes I realize Kane vs Booker, Orton vs Edge are not be a part of the card now as Booker and Edge are in the MITB,

But they still have New Breed, ECW Originals, MNM, Hardys, Shelton Benjamin, Carlito, Chris Benoit, London & Kendrick, MVP, Kennedy

I don't know. I guess I'm still positive right now.
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