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Wrestlemania 23; why not?
Topic Started: Apr 6 2006, 09:35 AM (2,239 Views)
Stinger
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If you ask me, the biggest match WM can offer is a World Heavyweight Championship match with Batista © vs. Undertaker inside the hell in a cell.

Batista has already shown he can work a nice, somewhat long HIAC match with Triple H. If both are healthy, I think a 25-35 minute HIAC between those two would be the ideal ME for Mania.
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Nov 20 2006, 04:42 PM
If you ask me, the biggest match WM can offer is a World Heavyweight Championship match with Batista © vs. Undertaker inside the hell in a cell.

Batista has already shown he can work a nice, somewhat long HIAC match with Triple H. If both are healthy, I think a 25-35 minute HIAC between those two would be the ideal ME for Mania.

I've been talking about that for the last year.

Do you turn someone heel for that or just let 'er rip as is? It probably wouldn't really matter.
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Snowman
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^^When Taker and Angle wrestled at NWO, they were both faces......it was great! You don't always have to have good vs evil. Sometimes you can give the crowd two faces and let them choose who they want to cheer for. It's the old, I respect you, we are friends, but when we step in the ring, im gonna rip you a new one.
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Chad Matthews
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That's definitely a huge match...without a doubt...it feels like a Mania match...

But would they realistically gimmick the first big match b/t them?

I'd love to say yes, but would lean toward saying no...that while the match may happen, the HIAC gimmick will be used to let Batista get the win at a later PPV.


What about this...and this is one that I've been talking about for a year...

No title on the line or anything, but simply a great upper mid-card match to beef up the card...RVD vs. HBK

The Showstopper vs. The WHole Dam Show...

That, to me, would (along with Taker vs. Batista and potentially Cena-Trips II) go a long way toward making this event feel special...
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^^ I'm with you on that all the way, although I'm not sure about Trips-Cena II.

Trips-Cena II - same question. Does anyone turn heel here or what?

If RVD is doing something else, how about HBK vs. Cena?

It pains me to think we're going to have a WrestleMania without Kurt Angle on the card. :(


Benoit is out there, too. You know you can put him in a match with someone like maybe...CM Punk? Maybe ECW rules? ;)

All kinds of things you can start doing.
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Snowman
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I would really like to see a Benoit/Undertaker feud.....
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Chad Matthews
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I would, too, Snowman...I'd really really like to see that...

I'd also really like to see an Edge vs. Undertaker feud. Cav mentioned it in one of the first posts in this thread...but Taker isn't the only one with a nice Wrestlemania undefeated streak. Edge is 6-0...

HBK vs. Cena would be nice, but can anyone honestly see that happening?

I'll tell you one thing about Taker vs. Batista. This is going to be the year to do it...Taker is aging...Batista is older than him (I think) and his main-event candle won't be burning by 2008 (In my opinion)...Now is the time to pull the trigger
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Snowman
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Batista: Born January 18, 1969
Taker: Born March 24, 1965
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Chad Matthews
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Okay...so not even close on the age thing...but I'm still holding to his main-event candle burning out...
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Jules
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Batista vs Taker would be absolutely sick, especially if it was a Hell In The Cell, or some other brutal gimmick match... That's definitely a Wrestlemania worthy contest right there.


If booked right it might even extend the wick on Batista's 'main event candle' as well for a few more years at least. That would all depend on which Batista showed up for the match though. The 'I don't wanna be here' Batista is not welcome in any more main event matches, ever.
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Chad Matthews
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Thinking outside the box...

I just read a post from an LOP member that suggested HHH vs. HBK for Mania 23...

That'd be a great match, and it'd possibly get HBK off of Raw and over to SD...

You'd have to think HBK's career is winding down, right? He's been back for nearly 4 1/2 years and done more than anyone could've expected.
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Snowman
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I either want Taker vs. Benoit or HBK vs. Benoit
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Nov 25 2006, 03:54 PM
Thinking outside the box...

I just read a post from an LOP member that suggested HHH vs. HBK for Mania 23...

That'd be a great match, and it'd possibly get HBK off of Raw and over to SD...

You'd have to think HBK's career is winding down, right?  He's been back for nearly 4 1/2 years and done more than anyone could've expected.

I agree. HHH vs. HBK would be great, no doubt about it!

Thing is, I want Cena in the main event alot more than Trips.

A ) I'm starting to get attached to Cena. I used to be a hater...but I'm finally starting to see Cena for what he really is...a determined, intense, main eventer who can always manage to make me laugh every monday night.

and

B ) I'm tired of HHH in the main event. It's making the WWE look weak in the sence of diversity. We don't want another Jeff Jarret/TNA thing...do we?

But still, if it where HBK vs. HHH, I'd still be happy and excited....just not as much as Cena vs. HBK. ;)
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The only catch is: We've already had HHH vs. HBK a billion times by now. Story wise, they've been friends, enemies, friends. In real life, everyone knows they're best friends.

I want something new and fresh. Not this.
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Chad Matthews
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I'd just like to see a non-Triple H main-evented Wrestlemania...

I really don't think his modest face pops and above average in-ring work deserves another main-event. Is he a draw? Sure he is...the last few Manias have scored monster PPV buys w/ him headlining...BUT, I just don't think it should happen again this year.

What is fresh? Well, you know Cena and Batista are likely to be the champions heading into the show...So who do they face?

Do they pull the trigger on just having them face each other? It would be an ugly match, but the intrigue factor is there...

I'd love to see Taker vs. Benoit or HBK vs. Benoit...

The best thing about Trips vs. HBK is that it likely wouldn't be the main-event...it'd nicely supplement the main-event, but it'd keep Trips out of the top of the card...
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It should be/should have been: Kurt Angle vs. HHH
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Snowman
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^^Would never happen. They hated each other and neither would do the job at mania for one another.
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Nov 25 2006, 06:32 PM
^^Would never happen. They hated each other and neither would do the job at mania for one another.

That's just ignorant. Booker and Batista hate each other, but they're working together. I hate wrestlers that let personel feelings about another wrestler get in the way of buisness.

Kurt would have done it, I think. It was just HHH who was mainly hating. Something about Angle being too light to be the champ set Trips off...or atleast that's what I read.
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Chad Matthews
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^^

I never bought that "HHH thought Angle was too light" thing...

It was Triple H's idea to have Chris Benoit win the title at Wrestlemania XX from what I've read. HHH hand-picked Benoit...

Angle vs. HHH would've been a great main-event...but since it's not going to happen, what will we see?
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Chad Matthews
Nov 25 2006, 11:05 PM

It was Triple H's idea to have Chris Benoit win the title at Wrestlemania XX from what I've read.  HHH hand-picked Benoit...


Yea and Benoit it even smaller than Angle, plus its really really convineant he mentions HHH did that to him just a day after his release.
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Chad Matthews
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Although nothing is set in stone, PWTorch.com reports that WrestleMania 23 is tentatively scheduled to be headlined by John Cena vs. Triple H and Batista vs. Undertaker for the WWE and World Heavyweight Titles, respectively.

The Batista-Undertaker idea, according to a report from several weeks ago, had already received Vince McMahon's approval. There is serious talk that WWE will bring Taker's WrestleMania winning streak to an end this year.

Cena vs. HHH, on the other hand, is a less concrete part of the schedule because WWE has no short-term plans to turn either heel. Orton has been discussed as a better opponent for Triple H, but because Cena is set to carry the WWE belt through the PPV, an Orton-HHH match would assure Vince McMahon's son-in-law did not have a top spot on the PPV lineup. Thus, a face vs. face match involving Cena and Triple H does seem likely.

WWE is also trying to put together Hulk Hogan vs. Big Show as a tribute to the historic Hogan vs. Andre match, but Big Show's hiatus from WWE could complicate negotiations. Show has made it clear that he has no present desire to be "part" of WWE, so a WrestleMania match would have to be worked out as a very lucrative, very short-term deal.

Since Bobby Lashley did not make the originally anticipated heel turn as ECW Champion, potential WrestleMania opponents are presently limited. A four-way match might be booked to enssure someone like CM Punk can participate in the bout.

Nothing else has been too actively discussed, although Shawn Michaels, Finlay, King Booker, Kane, Edge, Orton and Umaga will all likely get priority consideration for the show. A JBL return match might also take place at the event.

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I like Batista/Undertaker....

That'll certainly make Q mark out as well, since he's been calling for that one for well over a year now....

The question is, does one of them turn heel? And who?
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Cav
Dec 13 2006, 05:31 PM
I like Batista/Undertaker....

That'll certainly make Q mark out as well, since he's been calling for that one for well over a year now....

The question is, does one of them turn heel? And who?

I've said it for a long time: The Deadman gimmick has to be a heel character. But they already tried to turn Taker heel and the fans simply won't let it happen.

So maybe Batista, if they deem his "15 minutes of fame" are up by that time...

Or it's a face vs. face thing.
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I think unfortunately right now, both main events are going to be face vs. face.

I wonder if WWE is thinking about turning Batista heel at Armageddon...and they are hoping Cena is a big enough face where it would make the crowd hate Batista enough if he did turn. Because then it could set up the next couple of feuds for Batista. I could see Royal Rumble be Batista vs. Finlay, then NWO Benoit or Kane could challenge, then at Mania a face Undertaker defeats a heel Batista. Then after Mania they could try and turn Batista face again....just a random idea
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Chad Matthews
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Taker vs. Batista ought to get you much more into Wrestlemania this year, will it not, Q?

I think Animal may be right about the direction with Batista.

I'm really not seeing Trips vs. Cena II, yet. Plans could always change, and I think that shit about Orton-Trips is pure speculation on the part of the LOP writer. Orton-Cena and Edge-Trips are clearly the fresher match-ups. But we'll see...

My biggest issue w/ Trips vs. Cena II is what does that leave for Edge and Orton? I'd hate to see them break-up just so Trips gets his 4th Mania main-event in a row. Orton-Edge is a great combo...and as Q mentioned in another thread, Randy plays so well off of others that it makes his character much more interesting and entertaining. To break that up would be foolish, but to keep Rated-RKO going, have Trips face Edge (which would be the match that I'd get excited about since I've been talking about that since I got back from Mania 22), and pull the trigger on Cena-Orton...I think that'd all make for a better Mania...
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