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Wasted Talent; Pick 3 Ex-WWE wrestlers who got wasted
Topic Started: Dec 17 2005, 06:16 PM (212 Views)
Snowman
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In your opinion, who are the three superstars that did not get their fair shot from the WWE, and were let go? I.E. the most talented ones, who the WWE didn't allow to shine properly.

Mine:

1.) Charlie Haas: One of the brightest stars I have seen come through the WWE in a decade. He had the look, the move set, the athletic ability, and the credibility to make it. His career started bright teaming with Shelton Benjamin and forming TWGTT (The World's Greatest Tag Team), possibly one of the best tag teams of all time. When they split the two up in the draft, the WWE could have continued his angle of cocky, brass, arrogant, and talented young star...Instead the WWE stuck him in an angle with Rico that went no where, teamed him with Jackie and things looked bright, then was teamed with Hardcore Holly and was a regular on the low rated show Velocity.

2.) Sean O'Haire: Made a huge Impact with Mark Jindrak in WCW capturing their tag titles in their first match. When WCW was bought out by WWE, Sean started out as part of the Invasion but quickly vanished. He would soon resurfice after Wrestlemania 19 with Rowdy Roddy Piper as his manager....his promos that aired with the catch phrase "I'm not telling you anything you don't already know" were solid, his smug attitude, and gothic/GQ style were a good way of promoting him. He had a massive frame, great athletic ability. He was able to mix martial arts, high flying, and power, and his Seanton Bomb was something to see. Alas, the WWE dropped his angle and he eventually was banished to Velocity where he dropped off the face of the earth, and eventually reappeared in K-1 fighting.

3.) Rhyno: His WWE career started bright, coming in as Edge and Christian's "Hitman". Allowing E & C to win the tag titles again in the TLC II match. Rhyno possessed the look, the attitude, and the intensity to make it big. Not to mention he had one of the est finishers ever...."The Gore" his high impact spear. Rhyno had a title run or two, but nothing big. He had a fairly high profile feud with Chris Benoit following Wrestlemania 19 but that was shortly scrapped. After one unsatisfying match with Tajiri, which caused Vince McMahon to come out and break Kayfabe and demand they leave the ring, Rhyno was thrown into the WWE basement. Rhyno was thrown into a tag team with Tajiri, they had a small feud with La Resistance....but nothing came of it. The Manbeast, was going nowhere...wrestling dark matches before shows....but in every event I saw him in, he always got a good response, and respect from his fans. In an unfortunate incident, Rhyno and his wife had an argument in a hotel lobby, WWE and Rhyno parted ways...he now wrestles for TNA.
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1.) Mordecai.

Decent talent, was DOA because his gimmick was deemed a blatant rip-off of the Underatker's, which was true in a lot of respects.




2.) Boogeyman*

Premature? I doubt it. Look at how he's being used. Does anyone here think this guy is going to get any kind of legitimatcy past being the next Kamala?

It's too bad. I still haven't forgotten that Tough Enough special they did on SD where Puder ultimately made it ( don't ask me how.)

This guy and the other one that tore his pec muscle and continued on, impressed the hell out of me and easily owned Puder from here to the moon.

This guy deserves better than this. And Vince should personally pay to get him the best front teeth replacements possible, because I can't imagine having my teeth yanked for a damned wrestling gimmick.
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Chad Matthews
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1) Charlie Haas- I thought he could be the next Kurt Angle if they helped him develop some mic skills...and it wasn't as if he was bad at that. I remember when he was the one always talking for Team Angle when Angle got hurt in 2003, he sounded like he had some potential to be solid on the microphone. Of course, he could've ended up being the next Chris Benoit just from being so damn good in the ring and eventually got over shearly on that...but I digress. It was really a shock to me that they never used him after he split with Benjamin. Sure, I'm a huge fan of Shelton's, but I always did and still do believe that if given the same level of push, Charlie would've really been a break out star.

2) Sean O'Haire- yes, it seems I'm repeating Snow's, but at this point i agree with one and two DEAD ON. I LOVED Ohaire's gimmick when they brought him onto the SD brand. Those vignettes of his had me thinking he was going to be a big star...for he had the size, he had the look, and on top of that he looked to have a really good gimmick and the background that suggested he'd be more than just a regular big guy.

3) Daniel Puder- I keep up with OVW, and from everything I read it seemed he was improving at a very quick rate considering he had no previous "wrestling" experience. He was a guy who I thought had the background to be a very good pro-wrestler. I was always a big fan of Ken Shamrock, and I thought that Puder could at least have reached Shamrock's level. I just don't think it's wise to keep guys like Masters or Boogeyman that are all power and nothing else around when you have smaller, but more skilled guys like Puder who could end up being really good wrestlers. Puder's knocks in the WWE would've ended up being size and charisma...but he showed he had some attitude...and tude can be turned into something...

***4) Christian...duh...
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I should have mentioned Christian. In fact, Christian should be probably number one just about everyone's list.

How about Chris Jericho? I think was on the borderline for a quite a while as well.

How about Chris Benoit for the past year?

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I definately agree on Sean O'Haire. I loved that gimmick from the first vignette and always thought he was good in the ring. If they had kept it going, that shit would've been pure gold.
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Nick Dinsmore
Rob Conway
Doug Basham
Chris Masters (shame he has to play muscles and had to forget how to wrestle)

Those first three could all be great if given a chance and not some stupid gimmick. Prior to WWE, all three were excellent wrestlers putting on 4 star matches and OVW classics. Masters is on the list because his talent of actually being able to wrestle, which he could, is being wasted having to play the power man.

Mordecai
Sean O'Haire
Charlie Haas

I agree with those three, especially Mordecai, who I didn't even view as a Undertaker rip-off, but rather a Christian fantic hell bent on destroying those who were unfaithfull. When you think about it, they could have done a whole Heaven/Hell feud with him and Taker. Probablly would've been gold.

Christian for sure, he's probably the most wasted. CM Punk is being wasted down in OVW, learning WWE style.
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Hassan


I was starting to see this guy come into his own. I liked his finisher. He has a great look and solid mic skills.

He was doomed on arrival because of the obvious heated gimmick, but I think it's a blatant double standard and hypocrisy that saw him taken off the air, especially when you see things like JR ass segments, Katie Vick, anytime Mae Young or any of those other old washed up whores come on TV, some of this Undertaker occult/ Randy Orton is commiting murder stuff, and so on.

Give me a break!

It's strange to have Daivari around and not Hassan. Can anyone tell me that SD couldn't be using those two right now?
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1) Sean O'Haire- One of the few bright spots of WCW *sheds a tear* before it folded. I think he could've been a main eventer if used properly.

2)Christian- He made himself over with the fans, not the WWE, he did, and WWE still couldnt give him the push he deserved. The WWE could use him right about now.

3)Any and all cruiserweights. Yeah. All of them. Well except Rey, but you know what I mean.

Honorable mention: Nick Densmore, CM Punk, and the Gobledy Gooker (he could've been great I tell you!)
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KOTR
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Charlie Haas, Matt Hardy, all Cruisers. There all great but aren't given much TV time or chance to practice.
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Crim
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Christain- Good with the fans. Bad with the man. Therefor, given crap. Typical.

Chris Jericho- Wasted and mis-used 9 out of 10 times. One of the most athletic superstars on the entire roster and still bit the shit he was being fed. The irony of this is that Chris Jericho would have been used alot better now if he didn't quit. With the horrible shape SmackDown! is in, and the thinning heel line in RAW, Chris Jericho is needed more then ever. That's what ya get McMahon.

Tatanka- Deput in 1991. Undefeated for two years. A great athlete who played colledge football and highschool wrestling. Given absolutely no title. You do the math.
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Crim
Aug 30 2006, 01:22 PM
Tatanka- Deput in 1991. Undefeated for two years. A great athlete who played colledge football and highschool wrestling. Given absolutely no title. You do the math.

He recently jobbed to Miz and Slyvan (even though it was hsi home town)

hes a jobber now...like SD!'s Val Venis.
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Crim
The 2nd era of Y2J has begun
Yup. And there's no denying it.
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KOTR
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Funaki, hes actually a good wrestler but stuck in a jobber state.
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Crim
The 2nd era of Y2J has begun
Bottom line. The WWE is a heartless company. Wrestlers are like machines to the creative staff. Funaki will never get a decent push because Stephanie and Vince have decided to screw him over and let him rot.
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Crim
Sep 30 2006, 12:20 AM
Funaki will never get a decent push because Stephanie and Vince have decided to screw him over and let him rot.

Vince loves Val venis, Funaki, Scotty 2 Hotty, Hardcore Holly and Stevie Richards if not because they are so loyal and I guess vince actually respects them to some extent.
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Psychosis
Sep 30 2006, 01:41 PM
Vince loves Val venis, Funaki, Scotty 2 Hotty, Hardcore Holly and Stevie Richards if not because they are so loyal and I guess vince actually respects them to some extent.

How do you know this?

If that's the case, with the exception of Holly in ECW these days...you could have fooled me. You sure can't see much, if any, obvious and physical evidence of this "respect" you refer to.

At least I can't.
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Well there must be some reason he's kept them around, and they must not mind because they keep resigning.

Of course getting paid good money and do hardly nothing, well that's a good deal if you can get it.

Everything a string of releases come, I fully expect to see Funaki, Scotty, Val, and Richards to be among them.
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KOTR
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Oct 1 2006, 08:17 AM
How do you know this?

If that's the case, with the exception of Holly in ECW these days...you could have fooled me. You sure can't see much, if any, obvious and physical evidence of this "respect" you refer to.

At least I can't.

I don't know for a fact but I think its fairly obvious Vince has never said anything bad about them and he pays them to do little work and every time they clean out the rosters

See (May 2004 & June 2005,) They ALWAYS manage to stay employed.
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Psychosis_1013
Oct 15 2006, 01:06 PM
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Oct 1 2006, 08:17 AM
How do you know this?

If that's the case, with the exception of Holly in ECW these days...you could have fooled me. You sure can't see much, if any, obvious and physical evidence of this "respect" you refer to.

At least I can't.

I don't know for a fact but I think its fairly obvious Vince has never said anything bad about them and he pays them to do little work and every time they clean out the rosters

See (May 2004 & June 2005,) They ALWAYS manage to stay employed.

You got to have some squash fodder on the roster.
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Crim
The 2nd era of Y2J has begun
^Exactly. Jobbers are the corner stone of every roster. They are very important, wether they know it or not.

It's like the Medieval Hirarchy. The peasents (jobbers) are what keeps the society going.
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Oct 15 2006, 11:52 AM
Psychosis_1013
Oct 15 2006, 01:06 PM
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Oct 1 2006, 08:17 AM
How do you know this?

If that's the case, with the exception of Holly in ECW these days...you could have fooled me. You sure can't see much, if any, obvious and physical evidence of this "respect" you refer to.

At least I can't.

I don't know for a fact but I think its fairly obvious Vince has never said anything bad about them and he pays them to do little work and every time they clean out the rosters

See (May 2004 & June 2005,) They ALWAYS manage to stay employed.

You got to have some squash fodder on the roster.

Thats also true.
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