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| Stop Buying EA Games; Because they are lying, cheating, thieving bastards. | |
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| -Luffy Foxtrot- | May 6 2012, 01:12 PM Post #181 |
Raining on your parade with a truckload of awkward awesomeness.
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To take it further, the EA Indie Bundle is, as both MC and Hammy's respetive articles have said, a bunch of independently developed games that carry the EA name in publishing rights only. At the very core of these games, they're published by one of EA's sub branches, EA Partners, which more or less works independently of EA itself. The indie developers have retained complete creative freedom, while at the same time, gaining the bigger potential audience range by having the financial support of a large company like EA, as notorious as EA is in the long run. As MC said, without EA's support, those games may never have appeared in the first place. It also goes to say that, without this bundle, these same games may have never made it to Steam at all (save for Shank 2, at the very least). To quote part of the interview that MC posted:
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| -Hedj- | May 6 2012, 06:29 PM Post #182 |
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Yeah I uh can't really understand the hate of EA for publishing games they don't own the studios for, it's all the studios they have taken over that are the ones they're tainting. Yes the games published by EA are going to have people being wary because of EA's assholishness, alternately be swiped up instantly because EA have published a lot of fun games... But these games were NOT made by EA-owned companies, so they're still independently developed, and therefore still indie games. o_o Now if they had an Indie BioWare Bundle or an Indie Maxis Bundle, THEN we could cry shenanigans... |
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| Psycho Werekitsune | May 6 2012, 08:31 PM Post #183 |
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With how EA is, I wouldn't be surprised. :P |
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| -Phantom Hammertoes- | May 7 2012, 05:19 AM Post #184 |
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I already assumed all of the above, due to it's obviousness. It's perfectly fine, bar naming it the EA Indie Bundle, which just shows what ignorant, self-absorbed twats they are. Don't let the good that was done here blind you either. Just because I love those games doesn't mean I can't despise the initial motivations for the creation of those indie companies, regardless of how independant and artistically driven they were, as well as not really regarding EA's capitalisation on the Indie market term as an ideal business practice, nor a great economoical one but... They're all doing it I suppose. They've certainly done stupider and much worse things in the past few weeks alone. |
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| -Jacquerel- | May 7 2012, 05:27 AM Post #185 |
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Uh no They called it the EA Indie Bundle because it is a Bundle of Indie Games published by EA, and because they have a Fuctional Grasp of the English Language. Why would they call a spoon a fork? Nobody is denying that EA have done terrible things in the past but giving a bundle an accurate name is not in any way offensive or a crime, or anything to be upset about. Where is the slur? I only see one ignorant twat here, and they don't have the initials EA. Is being absorbed by brand hatred better or worse than by love of money, though? ;) Edited by Jacquerel, May 7 2012, 05:31 AM.
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| -Phantom Hammertoes- | May 7 2012, 01:13 PM Post #186 |
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Oh, okay.
...Yes. Profit?
Oh, good. I was worried there for a second.
And, thankfully, no one here is offended or upset.
That's awful simple of you. My feelings toward EA are infinitely more complex than that. Are you seriously suggesting I'm up in arms about EA naming something what it is? |
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| Psycho Werekitsune | May 7 2012, 03:12 PM Post #187 |
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Everyone chillax, no need to get so worked up about all this. As much as I'd love to slag off EA for whatever reason, this really doesn't seem like a big deal to me. I mean, they ARE indie games, so what's the problem? |
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| -Jacquerel- | May 7 2012, 11:07 PM Post #188 |
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At no point did you tell me in your response to my post what the issue with them calling something the thing that it is, is. I have already asked more than once :( |
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| -Ekoi- | May 8 2012, 02:15 AM Post #189 |
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EA tends to buy-out dev companies it publishes for, and then ruin them with their taint. This is the problem that people are preemptively getting rustled about. Edited by Ekoi, May 8 2012, 02:15 AM.
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| -Phantom Hammertoes- | May 8 2012, 03:46 AM Post #190 |
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This is the internet, Psych. I tend to stay fairly emotionally detached at this point :P. If I cared what people on the internet actually thought, I would be a much less sane, even less reasonable man. Believe that or not >>.
To put it simply; Context. You can't (or shouldn't) argue for something so simple without considering where, why and how it came to be. And many other historical factors. I did already mention this in a way but as always my wording was far from ideal. Being absorbed by brand hatred is a much further stretch. It's more an innate passion that comes with growing up with games, which has pretty much been a sole focus of my life up until this year. It's simply that, as always, nothing they do or say feels genuine. I don't think I've ever smiled at an EA spokesperson interview. Like every big gaming production company, I've grown up with them and seen the constant bullshit, the constant promising more than they can handle (partially due to their own absurd deadlines), the treating Devs like shit, the lying, the manipulation... And now it's beyond obvious. They're downright being called out by so many of the smart ones and it's being noticed across the net, thus the world... And they'll still get away with it. Right or wrong, either of us, either way, what I said above and them having any other motivation is just as likely to be right as them simply wanting to name it what it is. The chances of you or I actually knowing anything behind the scenes of a company like this are about the same - pathetically low. Edited by Phantom Hammertoes, May 8 2012, 03:48 AM.
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| -Jacquerel- | May 8 2012, 04:42 AM Post #191 |
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But... I still don't understand why this means that they can't call their bundle of indie games a bundle of indie games As you say they have pulled plenty of bullshit in the past, that just makes it even more confusing to me as to why you decide to focus on something completely inoffensive as a sin when they have made perfectly legitimate mistakes What should they have called it, if not what it is? Edited by Jacquerel, May 8 2012, 04:43 AM.
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| -YCobb- | May 8 2012, 04:48 AM Post #192 |
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I'm not really seeing the problem either; it's a bundle of Indie games that EA published. That's their unifying trait and the reason they're all bunched together on sale, what else would you have the bundle called? "The Shank 1+2 and Deathspank (Thongs of Virtue) and Gatling Gears and Warp Bundle" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. Edited by YCobb, May 8 2012, 04:48 AM.
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| -Phantom Hammertoes- | May 8 2012, 06:55 AM Post #193 |
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I'm not focusing on it. I just brought up an EA related article in the EA thread and commented on it, in it's context. It's of little consequence to me, especially at this point. I'm not trying to hate on anyone here, by the way. It seems I'm coming off as such.
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| -Arem- | May 8 2012, 07:31 AM Post #194 |
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| -Jacquerel- | May 8 2012, 07:44 AM Post #195 |
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Why ask you? Because you're the only person here who has an issue with it! If its existence is the issue then why do you care what they named it? You still have yet to provide a reason why they should not have called it the "EA Indie Bundle" except for the fact that you don't like EA! |
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