Zimmerman: NOT GUILTY

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Zimmerman: NOT GUILTY; The justice system has failed
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-Aroxys-	Jul 16 2013, 05:37 PM Post #31
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Sonia Chaud	Jul 16 2013, 05:40 PM Post #32
No fucks left to give. Posts: 5,052 Group: Badgerborn Member #38 Joined: June 2, 2008	Aroxys Jul 16 2013, 05:37 PM Actually, no, I didn't know that about the Onion. Something to keep in mind later on, I guess. Yeah, it's been around forever, they're over the top satire usually ends up coming true though. Remember Stubenville and how the news media felt bad for the rapists? The Onion had a story just like that about 2 or 3 years earlier. That and Other opinion pieces are already saying the same thing
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Psycho Werekitsune	Jul 16 2013, 07:44 PM Post #33
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-Arem-	Jul 17 2013, 10:46 AM Post #34
Fabulous Homosexual Posts: 6,262 Group: Elite Member #59 Joined: November 9, 2009	That's ok; some people still use the Sun as a legitimate source. :\|
	--- Quote: Blacklightning Nov 14 2011, 02:48 AM I like it when people use the word "gay" in any context other than a homosexual one - it only proves that they have the maturity of a five year old, as if their obsession with shooters didn't already do a good job of pointing that out. It's also pretty amusing that he pointed out Skyrim considering the fact that, y'know, it's set in the bloody medival era and doesn't even have muskets, let alone generic modern firearms. But just for fun, let's play around with his logic a bit. game - gun = gay game + gun = -gay game + gun + Arem = ??? Founder of #TeamArem


-Havoc the Tenrec-	Jul 17 2013, 10:53 AM Post #35
Master Posts: 6,709 Group: Elite Member #83 Joined: September 10, 2010	Quote: The kid didn't know he was pulling out a phone. What does he have to fear from other people walking around a safe gated community? He's searching around houses, gets stopped by someone with a little authority who's business it is to know what's going on, and somehow he's the innocent one because "maybe" he thought his phone was a gun. If I reached into my pocket when walking up to someone at night, that doesn't give the other person the "go ahead" on trying to beat me to death with ninjitsu. Quote: Put yourself in his shoes for a moment; you're out late at night, probably on your way home, when you notice something suspicious. This strange guy's following you in his car. You're scared and figured if you ran, he'd give chase and catch you. One of the smartest things to do to throw a stalker or potential mugger off guard is to confront them and make eye contact, so he did that. The guy said he wasn't following him and he just continued about his business. If I were in his shoes, well I would know I'm in a gated community (he didn't live in this area). Gated communities have a lot of neighborhood watch guys that look out after the area. What would someone not from the area be doing checking out all the houses on a block, especially with reports of recent break-ins? I'm sorry, but that's suspicious. If you're not from the area at night, people in gated communities will wonder what the heck is going on. You can get jailed just for trespassing. It's been confirmed that Trayvon was on drugs at the time, so I'm not quite sure how I can put my shoes in his place and/or mindset on all the decisions he was making that night, I don't know any deadly martial arts that I'd be ready to use on anyone that comes up to me with a phone either. It's not like Zimmerman intended on hurting Trayvon, I would have to think his mind was most likely set on justice without force, and words before 911 action. In the heat of the moment of almost being killed by this stranger, I don't think he had time to think quickly of alternate options. On retrospect, one could point the gun at the victim after he regained his gun and just say "freeze or I'll shoot". In Chicago, we get more shootings a year than U.S. troop killings in Afghanistan, so to us this just sounds like the daily local morning news... and black missing kids... rarely ever in the news. And when they are, it's a 30 sec to 1 minute segment that you wont hear from again. You have a white kid missing, then it's pretty big news. The media is like that, it incites racism, and it itself is racist.
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-Arem-	Jul 17 2013, 11:04 AM Post #36
Fabulous Homosexual Posts: 6,262 Group: Elite Member #59 Joined: November 9, 2009	Quote: It's not like Zimmerman intended on hurting Trayvon, I would have to think his mind was most likely set on justice without force, and words before 911 action. In the heat of the moment of almost being killed by this stranger, I don't think he had time to think quickly of alternate options. On retrospect, one could point the gun at the victim after he regained his gun and just say "freeze or I'll shoot". He did something stupid by going after him AFTER the dispatchers told him not to. He followed his gut instead of his head and a kid is dead for it. We're not arguing that he's a murderer; we're arguing that he's an idiot with blood on his hands because he got stupid. Manslaughter, generally speaking, is the act of killing WITHOUT the intent to kill. He should have been slapped for that. I don't believe he's a murderer; I believe he was a fucking nitwit. And he had the balls to demand an apology? I would have kicked them balls for just showing how much of an idiot he is. They let him walk because the prosecution should have gone for manslaughter, not murder. Plus, he was just a kid. When you were a kid, you had wild thoughts too regarding what a person is doing, because kids can have wild imaginations. He wasn't a mature adult so don't paint him out to have the foresight of one. It's nothing short of faulty reasoning. Well, hopefully civil court will slap him with restitution. Even if he's "innocent" in the eyes of the law, he's going to have a scarlet letter branded to him for life. Edited by Arem, Jul 17 2013, 11:06 AM.
	--- Quote: Blacklightning Nov 14 2011, 02:48 AM I like it when people use the word "gay" in any context other than a homosexual one - it only proves that they have the maturity of a five year old, as if their obsession with shooters didn't already do a good job of pointing that out. It's also pretty amusing that he pointed out Skyrim considering the fact that, y'know, it's set in the bloody medival era and doesn't even have muskets, let alone generic modern firearms. But just for fun, let's play around with his logic a bit. game - gun = gay game + gun = -gay game + gun + Arem = ??? Founder of #TeamArem


Arcana Fang	Jul 17 2013, 11:07 AM Post #37
Bullshit Patrol Posts: 1,177 Group: Guardian of the Realm Member #48 Joined: October 6, 2008	Havoc The Tenrec Jul 17 2013, 10:53 AM Quote: What does he have to fear from other people walking around a safe gated community? He's searching around houses, gets stopped by someone with a little authority who's business it is to know what's going on, and somehow he's the innocent one because "maybe" he thought his phone was a gun. If I reached into my pocket when walking up to someone at night, that doesn't give the other person the "go ahead" on trying to beat me to death with ninjitsu. I agree with this. I also live in a gated community, and I feel safer because I know my association money goes to guys that patrol the area more than the police, who tend to have other areas and on-spot calls to handle. Plus I work for 911, so I may be a little more on the law side of things. Quote: If I were in his shoes, well I would know I'm in a gated community (he didn't live in this area). Gated communities have a lot of neighborhood watch guys that look out after the area. What would someone not from the area be doing checking out all the houses on a block, especially with reports of recent break-ins? I'm sorry, but that's suspicious. If you're not from the area at night, people in gated communities will wonder what the heck is going on. You can get jailed just for trespassing. It's been confirmed that Trayvon was on drugs at the time, so I'm not quite sure how I can put my shoes in his place and/or mindset on all the decisions he was making that night, I don't know any deadly martial arts that I'd be ready to use on anyone that comes up to me with a phone either. ESPECIALLY since he would know the people in the area, and coupled the fact that Trayvon had drugs in his system, he also pounced on the guy, I mean, I've never been under the influence of such drugs, but I think they inhibit your behavior. And if someone is simply coming up to you, what crime is that? I mean, sure fight or flight might take off, but in the area it's highly unlikely that if either of them had started simply screaming or yelling that someone wouldn't step out and go "oh shit." Quote: It's not like Zimmerman intended on hurting Trayvon, I would have to think his mind was most likely set on justice without force, and words before 911 action. In the heat of the moment of almost being killed by this stranger, I don't think he had time to think quickly of alternate options. On retrospect, one could point the gun at the victim after he regained his gun and just say "freeze or I'll shoot". In retrospect, yes this truly makes sense. But Trayvon had drugs in his system, and also just jumped onto Zimmerman. If someone is on top of me, and beating me, I don't think I'd have time to threaten a weapon in the form of a verbal warning; nor would Trayvon even possibly be in the right mindset to think "he has a gun, maybe I should back off for a moment." Quote: He did something stupid by going after him AFTER the dispatchers told him not to. He followed his gut instead of his head and a kid is dead for it. We're not arguing that he's a murderer; we're arguing that he's an idiot with blood on his hands because he got stupid. Manslaughter, generally speaking, is the act of killing WITHOUT the intent to kill. He should have been slapped for that. I don't believe he's a murderer; I believe he was a fucking nitwit. And he had the balls to demand an apology? I would have kicked them balls for just showing how much of an idiot he is. They let him walk because the prosecution should have gone for manslaughter, not murder. He did go after him after a dispatcher told him not to, but simply going towards the kid was not the event that was stupid. Granted, we could also say that Trayvon was stupid for jumping on the guy, AFTER he was heading back to his vehicle. I do know he killed a kid, but actually going to talk to a kid versus jumping on a guy and beating him are two totally different realms. And the prosecution did fail with it's reasonable doubt. Although I do remember the female witness that was a "star" was completely laughable. And the jurors even asked for a "clarification of manslaughter." So it was considered. Quote: Plus, he was just a kid. When you were a kid, you had wild thoughts too regarding what a person is doing, because kids can have wild imaginations. He wasn't a mature adult so don't paint him out to have the foresight of one. It's nothing short of faulty reasoning. I was never a kid with drugs in my system, walking somewhere I wasn't familiar with, in a gated community, at night. My imagination would be running wild about what a person is doing, but generally, I don't pounce on everyone that comes up to me either. Quote: Well, hopefully civil court will slap him with restitution. Even if he's "innocent" in the eyes of the law, he's going to have a scarlet letter branded to him for life. And this is true. Although it sucks for those who suffer from this same thing, and those who don't get the fair trial and attention they deserve. Edited by Arcana Fang, Jul 17 2013, 11:15 AM.
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-Havoc the Tenrec-	Jul 23 2013, 06:30 AM Post #38
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-Kay G. Radley-	Jul 23 2013, 08:58 PM Post #39
is really Sol Badguy Posts: 4,785 Group: Elite Member #77 Joined: September 6, 2010	[/doublechecks to make sure it's not The Onion] ...well, dayum.



-Arem-	Jul 24 2013, 03:20 AM Post #40
Fabulous Homosexual Posts: 6,262 Group: Elite Member #59 Joined: November 9, 2009	Yeah, I read about that. I'm glad he took the time to do that, but the fucking press needs to back off...like right now. Not racially motivated, my ass.
	--- Quote: Blacklightning Nov 14 2011, 02:48 AM I like it when people use the word "gay" in any context other than a homosexual one - it only proves that they have the maturity of a five year old, as if their obsession with shooters didn't already do a good job of pointing that out. It's also pretty amusing that he pointed out Skyrim considering the fact that, y'know, it's set in the bloody medival era and doesn't even have muskets, let alone generic modern firearms. But just for fun, let's play around with his logic a bit. game - gun = gay game + gun = -gay game + gun + Arem = ??? Founder of #TeamArem


-Havoc the Tenrec-	Jul 24 2013, 03:44 AM Post #41
Master Posts: 6,709 Group: Elite Member #83 Joined: September 10, 2010	Arem Jul 24 2013, 03:20 AM Yeah, I read about that. I'm glad he took the time to do that, but the fucking press needs to back off...like right now. Not racially motivated, my ass. Oh come on now.... race had nothing to do with it already. http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/07/the-truth-about-geoge-zimmerman.html George Zimmerman voted and campaigned for Obama. George Zimmerman and his black friend opened an insurance company in Florida. George Zimmerman has black family members. Some of George's black family members lived with him, at some point. George Zimmerman launched a campaign to help a homeless black man who was beaten up by a white kid. George dated and took a black girl to the prom. George Zimmerman also mentored young black males.
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-Arem-	Jul 24 2013, 03:51 AM Post #42
Fabulous Homosexual Posts: 6,262 Group: Elite Member #59 Joined: November 9, 2009	I was talking about the press; I know Zimmerman isn't racist; I never suggested otherwise. All I said was that he was an idiot. Edited by Arem, Jul 24 2013, 03:52 AM.
	--- Quote: Blacklightning Nov 14 2011, 02:48 AM I like it when people use the word "gay" in any context other than a homosexual one - it only proves that they have the maturity of a five year old, as if their obsession with shooters didn't already do a good job of pointing that out. It's also pretty amusing that he pointed out Skyrim considering the fact that, y'know, it's set in the bloody medival era and doesn't even have muskets, let alone generic modern firearms. But just for fun, let's play around with his logic a bit. game - gun = gay game + gun = -gay game + gun + Arem = ??? Founder of #TeamArem


Psycho Werekitsune	Jul 24 2013, 04:11 AM Post #43
Part man...part beast...full psycho! Posts: 17,366 Group: All Powerful Deity Member #1 Joined: December 30, 2005	The press is treating this like it's some kind of international coverage when there's seriously more important things they could be doing. I swear to god, journalism in its entirety has been infected with celebrity bullshit like TMZ.
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-Arem-	Jul 24 2013, 04:15 AM Post #44
Fabulous Homosexual Posts: 6,262 Group: Elite Member #59 Joined: November 9, 2009	You have no idea. Hell, the media has sunk so low that we are taught to glorify mediocrity and condemn extraordinary.
	--- Quote: Blacklightning Nov 14 2011, 02:48 AM I like it when people use the word "gay" in any context other than a homosexual one - it only proves that they have the maturity of a five year old, as if their obsession with shooters didn't already do a good job of pointing that out. It's also pretty amusing that he pointed out Skyrim considering the fact that, y'know, it's set in the bloody medival era and doesn't even have muskets, let alone generic modern firearms. But just for fun, let's play around with his logic a bit. game - gun = gay game + gun = -gay game + gun + Arem = ??? Founder of #TeamArem


Sonia Chaud	Jul 24 2013, 06:46 AM Post #45
No fucks left to give. Posts: 5,052 Group: Badgerborn Member #38 Joined: June 2, 2008	Arem Jul 24 2013, 04:15 AM You have no idea. Hell, the media has sunk so low that we are taught to glorify mediocrity and condemn extraordinary. ROYAL BABY
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