Zimmerman: NOT GUILTY

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Zimmerman: NOT GUILTY; The justice system has failed
Tweet Topic Started: Jul 14 2013, 01:01 PM (599 Views)
-Arem-	Jul 15 2013, 03:29 AM Post #16
Fabulous Homosexual Posts: 6,262 Group: Elite Member #59 Joined: November 9, 2009	Florida as a people is mainly open-minded, but it's a Republican-controlled state, much like Texas.
	--- Quote: Blacklightning Nov 14 2011, 02:48 AM I like it when people use the word "gay" in any context other than a homosexual one - it only proves that they have the maturity of a five year old, as if their obsession with shooters didn't already do a good job of pointing that out. It's also pretty amusing that he pointed out Skyrim considering the fact that, y'know, it's set in the bloody medival era and doesn't even have muskets, let alone generic modern firearms. But just for fun, let's play around with his logic a bit. game - gun = gay game + gun = -gay game + gun + Arem = ??? Founder of #TeamArem


Psycho Werekitsune	Jul 15 2013, 03:40 AM Post #17
Part man...part beast...full psycho! Posts: 17,366 Group: All Powerful Deity Member #1 Joined: December 30, 2005	Well, that explains a lot then.
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-Blacklightning-	Jul 15 2013, 08:17 AM Post #18
BL;DR Posts: 3,493 Group: Elite Member #80 Joined: September 7, 2010	Zimmerman expects an apology. Un-fucking-believable.



-Arem-	Jul 15 2013, 08:37 AM Post #19
Fabulous Homosexual Posts: 6,262 Group: Elite Member #59 Joined: November 9, 2009	Not a fucking chance. Go to hell, loser.
	--- Quote: Blacklightning Nov 14 2011, 02:48 AM I like it when people use the word "gay" in any context other than a homosexual one - it only proves that they have the maturity of a five year old, as if their obsession with shooters didn't already do a good job of pointing that out. It's also pretty amusing that he pointed out Skyrim considering the fact that, y'know, it's set in the bloody medival era and doesn't even have muskets, let alone generic modern firearms. But just for fun, let's play around with his logic a bit. game - gun = gay game + gun = -gay game + gun + Arem = ??? Founder of #TeamArem


-Aroxys-	Jul 15 2013, 01:22 PM Post #20
GALACTUS Posts: 1,659 Group: Elite Member #63 Joined: November 9, 2009	Can we just bury this guy? In a lava pit? Please?
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Sonia Chaud	Jul 15 2013, 10:20 PM Post #21
No fucks left to give. Posts: 5,052 Group: Badgerborn Member #38 Joined: June 2, 2008	Fun times with idiots.
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-Crimson Phoenix-	Jul 15 2013, 11:08 PM Post #22
Master Posts: 622 Group: Elite Member #62 Joined: November 9, 2009	Just pointing this out, he wasn't found not-guilty of killing him. It was already established that Zimmerman DID kill Martin and that is not in doubt. It was his intent that was on trial. They pushed for 2nd Degree Murder charge and couldn't make it stick, that's all that happened. I feel like manslaughter, assault with a deadly weapon, assault with the intent to kill all would've stuck if they could've convinced them to push for a lesser charge, and Zimmerman would've seen jailtime for a violent crime. The fact they politicized this and went for the maximum charge they could derailed this train. It's also hard for people to understand my belief that both parties are at fault for the initial confrontation in the sense that Zimmerman had no business stalking the kid until police arrived after he already called in a suspicious person and Martin had no business confronting and assaulting the man stalking him when he should've continued on straight to his father's place. From both persons, they had the choice not to escalate this to violence, but both chose to let that happen. However, I feel it was in no way justified someone should've died as a result of this confrontation. It is possible Zimmerman panicked and decided his legal conceal-carry pistol was his first and only line of defense when it shouldn't have even come out. I see far too many grey areas here, but I don't believe Zimmerman had any excuse for killing this person or pretending he was the law, but most people don't seem to understand grey areas and assume everything is very simple. Edit: the best example of this situation I can think of would be a barfight that turns deadly when someone pulls a weapon and either fatally shoots or stabs the other brawler. In the legal sense, it was a heat of the moment fight, neither participant may have intended to kill the other, and therefore, was not murder. However, the one person is no less dead and the other is no less responsible for his death. This may seem more like a technicality to some, though, and many laypeople will dismiss it as irrelevant. Edited by Crimson Phoenix, Jul 16 2013, 12:11 AM.



-Kay G. Radley-	Jul 16 2013, 12:53 AM Post #23
is really Sol Badguy Posts: 4,785 Group: Elite Member #77 Joined: September 6, 2010	Psycho Werekitsune Jul 14 2013, 11:57 PM And here I used to think that Florida was one of the few sensible states in the country. ...PFFFFFFFFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... ...oh, you was serious? Anyway, something I read elsewhere does help to put my mind at ease somewhat concerning Zimmerman: even if, according to a court of law, he's not guilty, in the court of public opinion, he is condemned. His life is more or less over, people are going to be out for him from here on out, and his professional career is going to be hell to deal with due to the murder hovering over him. He's kinda like OJ Simpson, except he doesn't have fame and fortune to protect him. Edited by Kay G. Radley, Jul 16 2013, 12:55 AM.



-Havoc the Tenrec-	Jul 16 2013, 04:29 AM Post #24
Master Posts: 6,709 Group: Elite Member #83 Joined: September 10, 2010	Quote: Zimmerman had no business stalking the kid He was the gated neighborhood's watch volunteer. Ok, I don't know if you guys have become familiar with the details or not... I just got caught up with them today and I think my mind's been changed a little. There were constant reporting of thefts at night, and he was patrolling the area. He saw Trayvon "snooping" around the yards of houses at night, and so Zimmerman called 911. Quote: Sanford police have stopped talking to reporters about the case, and Serino has never spoken publicly about his role in it, but here is how Martin recalls what Serino said: "He told me Zimmerman's story was that Zimmerman was of course following him and that Trayvon approached his vehicle, walked up to the car and asked Zimmerman, ‘Why are your following me?' Zimmerman then rolls his car windows down, tells Trayvon ‘I'm not following you.' He rolls his car windows up. "Trayvon walks off. Zimmerman said he started running between the buildings. Zimmerman gets out of his car. He comes around the building. Trayvon is hiding behind the building, waiting on him. Trayvon approaches him and says, ‘What's your problem, homes?' Zimmerman says ‘I don't have a problem.' "Zimmerman starts to reach into his pocket to get his cellphone, and at that point Trayvon attacked him. He says Trayvon hits him. He falls on the ground. Trayvon jumps on top of him, takes his left hand and covers Zimmerman's mouth and tells him to shut the F up and continues to pound on him. "At that point Zimmerman is able to unholster his weapon and fire a shot, striking Trayvon in the chest. Trayvon falls on his back and says, 'You got me.'" The Martin family has been telling their story as part of a campaign to have Zimmerman arrested. He himself has kept quiet. That was posted in 2012, but updates to the story tells us this Quote: During the vicious attack on George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin told him 'You're going to die tonight motherf*er' while hitting his head against the pavement and reaching for his gun, it was alleged in court today. The interview the neighborhood watch volunteer gave a police officer after he fatally shot the unarmed black teen was played to the court, in which he claims the teen jumped out of the bushes and said: 'You got a problem homey?' before punching him. The jury heard Zimmerman's version of events for the first time today, in which he told police in a number of interviews that he feared for his life after Trayvon jumped him and threatened to kill him. He allegedly told Zimmerman before trying to reach for his gun: 'You're going to die tonight motherfer.' Zimmerman wasn't a racist, he dated a black girl back in High School and no one he knows thinks he's in the least bit racist. Funny thing is, certain communities are seeing this story as a hate crime, which is pretty much one of the only reasons it's a hot topic right now. He was more than willing to go through lie detectors and all the other shit they put people through. NBC purposely altered his police recording to sound racist a year ago, and Zimmerman is now planning to sue the news station. If a news station altered what I said on tape, I know I would fucking sue the shit out of them. The "new" black panthers (think black KKK) have a $10,000 reward on zimmerman's head, even despite the fact he was found innocent and it wasn't a hate crime. In the end Zimmerman expects an apology for all of this. How often* does a "guilty" man ask for a formal apology? Obama is the one who should apologize to him, for making his case political, national, and racial. Now he has the Black Panthers out to kill him and he has to get a whole new identity and hide off somewhere. All this stupid shit has started more racial issues even though race has nothing to do with it. Edited by Havoc the Tenrec, Jul 16 2013, 04:35 AM.
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-Arem-	Jul 16 2013, 04:32 AM Post #25
Fabulous Homosexual Posts: 6,262 Group: Elite Member #59 Joined: November 9, 2009	The thing is, he still went after him AFTER calling 911, instead of letting the police deal with it. He overstepped his boundaries and a kid is dead because he fucking blew it. Murder? No. Manslaugher? Fucking yes.
	--- Quote: Blacklightning Nov 14 2011, 02:48 AM I like it when people use the word "gay" in any context other than a homosexual one - it only proves that they have the maturity of a five year old, as if their obsession with shooters didn't already do a good job of pointing that out. It's also pretty amusing that he pointed out Skyrim considering the fact that, y'know, it's set in the bloody medival era and doesn't even have muskets, let alone generic modern firearms. But just for fun, let's play around with his logic a bit. game - gun = gay game + gun = -gay game + gun + Arem = ??? Founder of #TeamArem


-Havoc the Tenrec-	Jul 16 2013, 04:41 AM Post #26
Master Posts: 6,709 Group: Elite Member #83 Joined: September 10, 2010	It was kind of his duty to do what he can to protect the community. We can't focus so much of it on not doing what one 911 operator told him not to do. Ok, so let's pretend he didn't call the police, he was just a concerned citizen wondering what the kid was up to. He comes up to him and pulls out his phone for a moment. And the kid pounces on the man performing martial arts shit on him ...telling him that he's going to die tonight. Is it not justified that Zimmerman took those actions? What would you do? Zimmerman calms the kid reached for his gun that was holsted on him... pretty sure that's the start of a kill or be killed situation. it wasn't Zimmerman's intent to kill, or even hurt. This other guy however was in vicious attack mode. Edited by Havoc the Tenrec, Jul 16 2013, 05:11 AM.
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Psycho Werekitsune	Jul 16 2013, 02:22 PM Post #27
Part man...part beast...full psycho! Posts: 17,366 Group: All Powerful Deity Member #1 Joined: December 30, 2005	The kid didn't know he was pulling out a phone. Put yourself in his shoes for a moment; you're out late at night, probably on your way home, when you notice something suspicious. This strange guy's following you in his car. You're scared and figured if you ran, he'd give chase and catch you. One of the smartest things to do to throw a stalker or potential mugger off guard is to confront them and make eye contact, so he did that. The guy said he wasn't following him and he just continued about his business. The kid then still felt like he was being followed, so he went between buildings and lied in wait and, lo and behold, that guy was still tailing him. He confronted him again and the guy denied following him, even though it was clear he was. He reached into his pocket and, at that moment, the first thing that would go through your head would be that he was pulling a weapon out on you. So the kid, in a moment of clarity, would have attacked before he was attacked. The rest of the stuff he said/did was probably taken out of context because of the heat of the moment. I'm not saying this Zimmerman guy is a bloodthirsty murderer, because it was clear he was trying to prevent what he perceived to be a potential threat. The issue was, he wasn't a saint either, he was trying to be a hero and ended up killing someone who might have been completely innocent of any crime other than wanting to go somewhere. He shouldn't have gotten off scot free, he should've been tried for manslaughter. But you're right about how this case has been blown up for political and social reasons, giving the news leeches and drama whores something to feed off of. It's just disgusting how something like this gets publicised for people's entertainment.
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Sonia Chaud	Jul 16 2013, 03:59 PM Post #28
No fucks left to give. Posts: 5,052 Group: Badgerborn Member #38 Joined: June 2, 2008	Juror decides to try to cash in, then realizes that's a bad bad bad idea Also, once the 911 operator said don't follow him, it's completely Zimmer's fault for having compensation issues.
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-Aroxys-	Jul 16 2013, 04:58 PM Post #29
GALACTUS Posts: 1,659 Group: Elite Member #63 Joined: November 9, 2009	Someone says 'Yeah, we can't even pretend to help you guys anymore'. Indeed. What pisses me off is that Zimmerman walked away scott free from murder after ignoring what he had been told to do in regards to the kid. Now there's dramatization, news channels eating this shit up and making it sound worse to get ratings, and shit like the stuff in the link I at the top of my post happening. If the guy just backed off, none of this would have happened. Also, Seeco, welcome to how 'Murica handles the news. It's not about reporting the truth, it's about sensationalizing shit to get ratings.
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Sonia Chaud	Jul 16 2013, 05:27 PM Post #30
No fucks left to give. Posts: 5,052 Group: Badgerborn Member #38 Joined: June 2, 2008	Aroxys Jul 16 2013, 04:58 PM Someone says 'Yeah, we can't even pretend to help you guys anymore'. Indeed. What pisses me off is that Zimmerman walked away scott free from murder after ignoring what he had been told to do in regards to the kid. Now there's dramatization, news channels eating this shit up and making it sound worse to get ratings, and shit like the stuff in the link I at the top of my post happening. If the guy just backed off, none of this would have happened. Also, Seeco, welcome to how 'Murica handles the news. It's not about reporting the truth, it's about sensationalizing shit to get ratings. You do know the Onion is a satire site right? One that's normally right in the end, but still not a serious news site. Stevie says NO WONDER FOR FLORIDA.
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