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The Playstation 4; Let the speculation begin.
Topic Started: Mar 9 2012, 11:33 PM (5,214 Views)
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Bunch of new games announced and some already mentioned, and VR stuff. Impressive things coming up.
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Apparently Sony cares about the PS4 about as much as the Vita, because they have no plans on actually enforcing one of the biggest things that the PS3 had going for it:

http://www.polygon.com/2015/10/28/9630210/backward-compatibility-ps4-ps3-playstation-classics-shuhei-yoshida

Also, in the face of the competition AND the above, thus is just plain stupid:

http://www.destructoid.com/no-there-are-still-no-backward-compatibility-ps4-plans-317954.phtml?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

RIP PS4.
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RIP?
PS3 didn't have PS2 compatibility and it was pretty successful... plus if people really want to play ps2 games they can still download/stream them. The majority of people buy a new system to play new games. Sony's getting some great exclusive rpgs coming up too, Persona 5 and FFXV, FF7? ect... so... I don't get it.

Plus, just because they say there are no current plans doesn't mean they wont work on it or secretly working on it. Just like they said there would be no DNLA, then changed their mind... then made a paid service required for awhile... then came out with better DNLA than they had on PS3.
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PS3 didn't have PS2 compatibility and it was pretty successful... plus if people really want to play ps2 games they can still download/stream them. The majority of people buy a new system to play new games. Sony's getting some great exclusive rpgs coming up too... so... I don't get it.
PlayStation Now is still currently exclusive to the US. Everyone else has the shaft. On top of that, my internet speeds aren't even good enough to use the Share Play feature. PlayStation Now is a pretty shitty option to begin with.

And a lot of people sell their older consoles in order to be able to afford the newer stuff. Not everyone can afford to have muliple consoles, or even have the housing space for multiple consoles. So not having backwards compatibility, even through software emulation, is kind of a dick move.

Also, don't forget that the PlayStation 3 did initially support PS2 backwards compatibility. Then Sony took it out to cut down on costs, ultimately bringing it back through software emulation. Again, suddenly cutting the whole thing out and expecting everyone who wants to play the older stuff on modern devices to have amazingly good internet is an incredibly shitty move.
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With just how well the O e has handled backward compatibility and how Nintendo pretty much enforces it, Sony dug itself into a hole by not doing so. With just how weaksauce PSN is, especially when compared to Virtual Console, they really can't afford a stupid move like this.

Aside from that, no one cares about the mainstream fare of Final Fantasy anymore aside from tryhard diehards, especially considering they'll eventually be ported to PC at some point. People get a Sony console to play Disgaea, Atelier, At Tonelico, Persona, Hyperdimension Neptunia, etc. If Sony doesn't provide a market for niche JRPGs, then the console's biggest selling point, and arguably the biggest appeal it has to its own Japanese audience will no longer exist.
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In other news, Yoshida doesn't know if they'll implement the abity to change your PSN name. This is based on the fact that the entire system is flawed as your progress is locked to said name and not any kind of ID.

http://www.destructoid.com/sony-s-yoshida-doesn-t-know-if-it-will-ever-be-possible-to-change-psn-id-318077.phtml?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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They still have backwards compatibility with ps1 games if you own a ps3, and ps2 games for download. I'd think most playstation owners would keep their PS3. Kind of weird that psn+ is only for the US, but I think they expect most people to have higher speeds since we've come a long way since slow internets. It's not their fault not every single person has fast internet, that's user end. Personally I haven't even touched that feature.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like it to have backwards compatibility, but that's hardly a dealbreaker. It's extremely hard to believe that no one cares about Final Fantasy, just because they beat FF13 into the ground and some titles are coming to PC. And of all the selling point lists on ps4 I've looked at online, none have even mentioned JRPGs. Also, they have 21 jrpgs currently and upcoming.
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2015/10/14/ps4-jrpg-games-a-look-at-current-and-upcoming-titles/#/slide/1

And in that new news, "our engineers have been looking into what they can do". A better way to sum up that article is that they're trying.
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PS2 emulation might be coming to PS4.
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PS2 emulated stuff on the PS4 runs worse on PAL systems.
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Could be worse, most of it looks kind of fine. Actually looks better on the PS3.
PAL ratios are kind of weird to me, even NTSC now. Widescreen all the way!
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http://www.cnet.com/news/sony-playstation-4-beats-xbox-one-as-top-selling-console-in-us/
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PSN is down...again.
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Not for me. My PS3 has been playing Hulu all day.
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With all these VR headsets coming out... it's getting harder to decide which to get. HTC vive will probably have the best tech and games... now the PS4 will get frick'n gloves. It's like a new console war.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-02-26-sony-has-filed-a-patent-for-a-glove-controller
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Firmware update 3.50 will include a ton of new features.

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- Friend Online Notification – Want to know the moment your friends come online? With this update, you can, as we’ve added an option to be notified when members of your friends list sign in on the network. Notifications can be tailored to certain friends
- Appear Offline – Sometimes you want to play a game or watch a movie without being interrupted. Now it’s easier to go incognito as we’ve added the option to appear offline. You can designate if you would like to appear offline when you log-in or at any time from your Profile or the Quick Menu
- User Scheduled Event – Now it’s easier to organise a game session. We’ve added the ability to schedule a future gameplay session with your friends on the system. When your event starts, users who registered for the event will automatically be added to a party so you can start playing right away
- Remote Play (PC/Mac) – We’re bringing PS4 Remote Play to Windows PC and Mac. This feature won’t be available to test in the beta, but you can look forward to it soon
- Dailymotion – With this update, you’ll be able to live stream directly to Dailymotion on PS4. We’ll also support archiving live broadcasts, like we do for other streaming services
- Play Together – This features allows all members of a Party to see what each person is playing so that you can easily join a friend’s game, or start a new game together
- PlayStation Plus – A new option in the PlayStation Plus destination will allow you to easily check and manage your online storage.
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