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Megaupload shut down by the feds, owners arested.
Topic Started: Jan 20 2012, 12:03 AM (643 Views)
-Sandie Sandwicheadman-
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And only one day after the Sopa/Pipa shutdowns!
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-Aroxys-
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Oh joy, yet more music industry bitching and feds catering to their every whim. Also such convenient timing on their parts, to target a site that resists SOPA.
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[7:28:01 PM] Ahmad Shakir: Everyone just looks like they got more streamers and cool hair
[7:28:16 PM] That Darn Drill Tank: Mega Ampharos looks FABULOUS
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-The Raging Zephyr-
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...are you fucking serious?

I had a goodly amount of files on there that I've been keeping in storage in case of emergency...
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I haven't got a source for this, but apparently the websites of Universal Music and the Department of Justice were shut down by Anonymous in retaliation. One is indeed down, while the other is so slow in loading that it might as well be down.
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Blacklightning
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I like it when people use the word "gay" in any context other than a homosexual one - it only proves that they have the maturity of a five year old, as if their obsession with shooters didn't already do a good job of pointing that out. It's also pretty amusing that he pointed out Skyrim considering the fact that, y'know, it's set in the bloody medival era and doesn't even have muskets, let alone generic modern firearms.

But just for fun, let's play around with his logic a bit.

game - gun = gay
game + gun = -gay
game + gun + Arem = ???


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-Sandie Sandwicheadman-
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Acording to Gizmodo, Anon has taken down: Department of Justice, RIAA, MPAA, Universal Music Group, US Copyright Office, EMI, French copyright site HADOPI, and the FBI.
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Kinda hilarious, but didn't they only really hit surface sites? I don't think they'd be able to bring down that many places to their knees that quick.
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The sites haven't even stayed down that long

Honestly, MegaUpload was a huge piracy hub and I don't think it was a particular invasion of privacy to shut it down when the owners clearly either refused to or were incapable of doing anything about it.
The closeness of this to that SOPA/PIPA stuff is just coincidence, they've been gunning for this for a long time and the timing of the final takedown just happened to fall on an appropriate date.
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-Havoc the Tenrec-
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You have no idea how furious this makes me...
I will completely loose my shit if Rapidshare gets taken down.

I hope anon goes ALL OUT for a long time on this.






Update: Anonymous says they've also knocked off the RIAA's site—looks down for us at the moment as well.

Update 2: Universal Music Group has also fallen off an e-cliff.

Update 3: Goodbye for now, MPAA.org.

Update 4: Affected sites are bouncing in and out of life, and are at the very least super slow to load. Anon agents are currently trying to coordinate their DDoS attacks in the same direction via IRC.

Update 5: The US Copyright Office joins the list.

Update 6: This Anon sums up the mood in their "official" chat room at the moment:

Danzu: STOP EVERYTHING, who are we DoSing right now?

Update 7: Russian news service RT claims this is the largest coordinated attack in Anonymous' history—over 5,600 DDoS zealots blasting at once.

Update 8: the Anonymous DDoS planning committee is chittering so quickly, it's making my laptop fan spin.

Update 9: Major record label EMI is down for the count.

Update 10: La résistance est international—French copyright authority HADOPI bites the dust under Anon pressure.

Update 11: The Federal Bureau of Investigation has fallen and can't get up.

Update 12: Anonymous has released a statement about today's attacks.
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Taking these websites down does nothing, they aren't like MegaUpload.
These kind of sites are pretty much just big adverts and infodumps, not content providers. Nobody is losing access to services due to the DDOS attacks.
It is a futile, pointless gesture and one that the companies they are attacking probably care little about.

THIS ALSO HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH SOPA OR PIPA.
I am not even that upset that the site is gone.
It is annoying certainly, but it is extremely difficult to argue that the action was not entirely justified.

MegaUpload is the site for getting non-torrented illegal files. Don't pretend you haven't seen them (you've probably downloaded them). The creators either refuse to do anything about it or are incapable, and so it goes away. This is not an impulsive moment of power abuse, this is an organisation shutting down a huge tool used regularly for criminal activities with a pretty airtight case after several months of investigation.
There were certainly legitimate uses for MegaUpload but as the owners had a chance to do something to stop the piracy and didn't manage it, there is no way to just delete that part of the website.
Blame the owners who did not do anything about the pirates sharing your webspace (or yourself, if you were one of the pirates), not the people enforcing the law.
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So? People post large and small chunks of clips and parts of episodes to youtube, and youtube doesn't get shut down... and rarely takes anything down unless a company requests it. To many people, this is no different than SOPA. And if they could do this to Megaupload, what's stopping them from doing it to every other site like it? A lot of people use these sites for legitimate reasons too.

If they can do stuff like this, what was the point of SOPA? (Besides the obvious).
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If someone's running a drug dealing operation out of your building you're responsible for that too.
Youtube may not be the best at taking things down but it does do it when it can.
MegaUpload barely even try.

Note also that it wasn't just piracy that they were arrested for but an assortment of other crimes, "copyright infringement as well as conspiracy to commit money laundering and racketeering, described a site designed specifically to reward users who uploaded pirated content for sharing, and turned a blind eye to requests from copyright holders to remove copyright-protected files".
They made money from letting pirates use their site and had no intention of turning these people away. Some users receive cash bonuses for generating an extraordinary amount of hits on large files, which are almost exclusively copyrighted material that they had no business uploading, but is the main source of MegaUpload's revenue through advertisments. This encourages people to upload the most popular kind of files (ones that you aren't meant to have) because they have a chance of getting cash back from it, and MegaUpload want this because it makes them more money as well.

Do a bit of research, this isn't SOPA or PIPA, it is a legitimate case against criminals.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16642369
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If someone's running a drug dealing operation out of your building you're responsible for that too.
Youtube may not be the best at taking things down but it does do it when it can.
MegaUpload barely even try.

Note also that it wasn't just piracy that they were arrested for but an assortment of other crimes, "copyright infringement as well as conspiracy to commit money laundering and racketeering, described a site designed specifically to reward users who uploaded pirated content for sharing, and turned a blind eye to requests from copyright holders to remove copyright-protected files".
They made money from letting pirates use their site and had no intention of turning these people away. Some users receive cash bonuses for generating an extraordinary amount of hits on large files, which are almost exclusively copyrighted material that they had no business uploading, but is the main source of MegaUpload's revenue through advertisments. This encourages people to upload the most popular kind of files (ones that you aren't meant to have) because they have a chance of getting cash back from it, and MegaUpload want this because it makes them more money as well.

Do a bit of research, this isn't SOPA or PIPA, it is a legitimate case against criminals.
Megaupload content can be taken down by anyone who reports it being illegal. It happens all the time.
They may reward users for sharing, but it's not specifically for pirated material, it's for anything. That's not technically encouraging piracy, that's rewarding the user of sharing files in general.


Rapidshare used to do the same thing with rewarding a year ago. Though you can no longer generate points to get a free month or free stuff anymore from what I remember.

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Amazing isn't it how they can notice something's got enough hits to be worth giving someone money but miraculously not notice that it's pirated material.
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It's not really their business if no one reports it, hits are hits. If they don't have the password to open the rar file, they can't even check. And it's not like they can go through each of these huge files. The files can always be renamed to something else to prevent them knowing anything, which is the case most of the time.

And there are entire movies on youtube that nobody reports on, and they've been up for years. If no one claims to own the property, nothing happens.

Small example

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Megaupload was supposed to be a site to use if you have shit to send that was too big to send via email; what it ended up becoming was a nest for sending illegal content. However, I find it overdone to shut down an entire site because of customers. That's like shutting down all of Walmart because someone planted child pornography in a store.
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I like it when people use the word "gay" in any context other than a homosexual one - it only proves that they have the maturity of a five year old, as if their obsession with shooters didn't already do a good job of pointing that out. It's also pretty amusing that he pointed out Skyrim considering the fact that, y'know, it's set in the bloody medival era and doesn't even have muskets, let alone generic modern firearms.

But just for fun, let's play around with his logic a bit.

game - gun = gay
game + gun = -gay
game + gun + Arem = ???


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