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National Defense Authorization Act; Borderline martial law
Topic Started: Dec 8 2011, 10:02 AM (1,007 Views)
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The NDAA, which gives terrorist investigations to the control of the military, passed overwhelmingly in the Senate two nights ago with little debate, 93-7.

What the act does is grant the military to take down anyone suspected of terrorist activity or associations with no trial or second questioning on American soil on American citizens. There's no due process, no police, no Miranda laws, no nothing. We're one step closer to a military state.

No words describe how depressing this is. I feel like the Stranded in Gears of War, looking at the military with suspicion, distrust, and even hatred. Being someone who used to love the military, I find myself feeling like I've been stabbed in the back. Just like in Gears of War, I feel like there's a Hammer of Dawn aiming for my head and aiming for everyone else. It's just...what can I do? 1984 is arriving and it's arriving now.
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Blacklightning
Nov 14 2011, 02:48 AM
I like it when people use the word "gay" in any context other than a homosexual one - it only proves that they have the maturity of a five year old, as if their obsession with shooters didn't already do a good job of pointing that out. It's also pretty amusing that he pointed out Skyrim considering the fact that, y'know, it's set in the bloody medival era and doesn't even have muskets, let alone generic modern firearms.

But just for fun, let's play around with his logic a bit.

game - gun = gay
game + gun = -gay
game + gun + Arem = ???


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Read about this a few days ago and commented how the Middle East isn't the only place going to hell right now. This blows muchly, the US is turning into a police state which will only further motivate people to rebel.
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Thankfully, Obama has vowed to veto this act. It's too be seen now if he follows through with it.
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I read somewhere that even if Obama vetoed it, it can still pass because of a 2/3 majority. Of course, there's the chance that it gets challenged and taken to the Supreme Court after becoming law by congress, so there's hope.

Fucking politics man.
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Dec 9 2011, 12:54 AM
I read somewhere that even if Obama vetoed it, it can still pass because of a 2/3 majority. Of course, there's the chance that it gets challenged and taken to the Supreme Court after becoming law by congress, so there's hope.

Fucking politics lobbyists man.

Last sentence: Ignore the politics and see who's trying to sway the politics. The same people who sponsor this, sponsor or try to go against whatever is not in the better interest of the people. An example would be Lamar Smith (Congressman from Texas) with his generous donations from a variety of industries who try to lobby as much as possible (Pharmaceutical, alcohol, commercial banks, and real estates are a few that should help portray an image).

In regards to the bill itself, it does nothing more than serve to benefit pigs who want to try and pocket money at the citizens expense. The country's thirst for money and war is growing within the government which will result in something similar to the war on drugs in that it will become a war on the citizens (after all, we're part of the battlefield as some have put it who support the bill....)
This bill will hopefully not pass. Also, for those hoping Obama will veto it, take that with a lot of salt because people seem to forget he's not the peace-candidate he was when running in 2008 (herp-derp moment for those who still vehemently support his ass after being so against Bush. Don't try and say it's Bush's problems because Obama seemed to be for those ideas too such as the Patriot Act which he could've removed.)
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Never fucking mind I guess Obama's a pussy.

Never mind the never mind, they apparently took out the language:

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(b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens- (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States. (2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.

(d) Construction- Nothing in this section is intended to limit or expand the authority of the President or the scope of the Authorization for Use of Military Force. (e) Authorities- Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.


They took out the language, and no one is reporting it.
Edited by Sandie Sandwicheadman, Dec 16 2011, 02:50 AM.
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Huh...imagine that. >_>
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Looks like the government is now the enemy.
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Nov 14 2011, 02:48 AM
I like it when people use the word "gay" in any context other than a homosexual one - it only proves that they have the maturity of a five year old, as if their obsession with shooters didn't already do a good job of pointing that out. It's also pretty amusing that he pointed out Skyrim considering the fact that, y'know, it's set in the bloody medival era and doesn't even have muskets, let alone generic modern firearms.

But just for fun, let's play around with his logic a bit.

game - gun = gay
game + gun = -gay
game + gun + Arem = ???


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Re-check the post. They took out the language, but didn't bother reporting that half of the story.
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LOL posted before the edit.

Still, that's nice to hear about...but you'll have to forgive me for remaining skeptical.
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Blacklightning
Nov 14 2011, 02:48 AM
I like it when people use the word "gay" in any context other than a homosexual one - it only proves that they have the maturity of a five year old, as if their obsession with shooters didn't already do a good job of pointing that out. It's also pretty amusing that he pointed out Skyrim considering the fact that, y'know, it's set in the bloody medival era and doesn't even have muskets, let alone generic modern firearms.

But just for fun, let's play around with his logic a bit.

game - gun = gay
game + gun = -gay
game + gun + Arem = ???


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Well, looks like he's signing it into law.
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Blacklightning
Nov 14 2011, 02:48 AM
I like it when people use the word "gay" in any context other than a homosexual one - it only proves that they have the maturity of a five year old, as if their obsession with shooters didn't already do a good job of pointing that out. It's also pretty amusing that he pointed out Skyrim considering the fact that, y'know, it's set in the bloody medival era and doesn't even have muskets, let alone generic modern firearms.

But just for fun, let's play around with his logic a bit.

game - gun = gay
game + gun = -gay
game + gun + Arem = ???


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So according to Wikipedia this thing was signed a few hours ago. Welcome to hell America, hope you guys can survive the madness.
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Greeeeaaaatt...
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Let's see how long before this is rightfully found unconstitutional. I would expect it violates the US Posse Comitatas Act as well as breach their 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, and possibly 9th Amendment rights of those detained so long as they're US citizens.
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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/environment/la-me-gs-fbi-tracking-animal-videotapers-as-terrorists-20111229,0,5919114.story
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